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FireflyDivision #1 Posted 16 July 2017 - 11:40 AM

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Ladies, gentlemen and apache attack helicopters,

 

The moment has come at which we, the EU community, come together to make a statement. If you have been following the forum lately, then you have noticed that a lot of Europeans share the same opinions when it comes to Clan Wars. It simply hasn’t been heading towards the right direction. We kind of lost the most original game mode in the game. On 9 June 2017, a thread titled “Clan War’s demise and how to fix it” was created ( http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/632375-cws-demise-and-how-to-fix-it/). This thread became very popular in a short amount of time, which really portrayed how players generally think about the state Clan Wars is in.

 

We thought we were alone with this, until we recently found out that the Russian community (RU server) has also been discussing this matter. They went much further than the EU. They started a project, called CONTRAS, which allegedly gathered the support of 30k Russian players. Because of this massive number, WG allegedly invited the leaders of CONTRAS to their office in Minsk, to discuss Clan Wars. CONTRAS decided that they should try to gather support from the other servers as well, so they came to EU. That led to the creation of a thread titled  “CONTRAS Ally! Time to change Global Map together” (http://forum.worldof...l-map-together/) . What really stood out is similarity between EU’s and RU’s views. It seems that we have been walking down the same road separately.

 

As CONTRAS has contact with WG, we figured out that our best chance to make ourselves heard is by supporting their project. I started discussing details about CW with them. Think about specific CW settings and rules and the global map layout. I didn’t blindly want to follow them, because as much as we both want CWs to be fixed in the same general way, there are still differences between EU and RU. Both servers have a different amount of players & clans, a different amount of clans on each skill level and a different experience in Clan Wars. My desire was to make sure that our own interests would be protected as well. I based my information on what EU’s views are on the thread that I created earlier. It had gotten a lot of likes, from all sorts of clans, and none of the proposals was heavily resisted to.

 

It was astonishing to see that most of the opinions between RU and EU of even the smallest details matched. There were only a couple of small differences, but we hope to resolve it by explaining WG these differences and hoping that they’re willing to make EU and RU CWs just a tiny bit different to each other (it happened before, so why couldn’t it happen again?). In cooperation with CONTRAS, I developed a document with a statement on behalf of the EU CW community (Don’t get angry, someone had to do it.) This document will be brought to Minsk, and it will hopefully be handed over to WG.

 

The document just lacks one thing: a big number of signs from European clans! The goal is to get as many clans as possible to sign the document. A clan can sign the document by getting a representative of the clan (preferably the commander), to post “signed on behalf of <put clan name here>” in this thread. 

 

Now, I would like to say that the EU community is huge. There are many different types of clans and players. Please understand that it is impossible, or at least extremely difficult, to get a plan that literally everybody fully agrees on. Please don’t let that refrain you from signing the document. What matters is our general goal. I’m convinced of that the proposed system is better for all type of clans than the current system. Besides, I added a part about increasing communications between WG and the community. There will probably be some small issues later in the future (if this ever gets implemented), but that’s nothing that we cannot solve step by step! The important thing is to make a turn and to start walking in the right direction.

 

I genuinely believe that this is good for all types of clans, “good” or “bad. There is an area on the map for each type of clan. And instead of being stuck in your area forever, you get plenty of opportunity to climb up, which means that the better you get, the more you earn. There will actually be light at the end of the tunnel. At the moment, if you look at the situation of the small clans on the map (so that’s the tier 8 region, or the eastern t10 region), you see that small clans are stuck forever in an area that is filled with provinces that have max 144 gold. If they want to get more gold, they have to jump to the tier 10 western front. However, there they face clans that they’re not ready for yet, and they have to do it alone. The gold income is the same on each part of the western front, except for a few citadel provinces. That means that good clans spread out evenly across the front and other clans get no chance to make gold there. That also means that good clans don’t really have to wage war against each other on a scale that used to happen in the past, which is also not good.

 

In this new system that we’re proposing, the t10 region won’t have the same income on all places. This means that you can start at one place, where you’re not bothered by only unicum clans, and work your way up together with friendly clans. You can try to expand your territory towards higher gold value provinces. You work at your own preferred speed. You don’t have to make wicked jumps. When you start getting close to higher value provinces, you can start picking fights with some clans that are a little bit better. Good practice, and at some point you’ll probably manage to take a few provinces in the higher region. Of course, the better clan can decide to counterattack you, but going deep inside your territory won’t be profitable for them, because they would put their own, higher value provinces, at great risk. Clan’s won’t be having an unlimited amount of divisions anymore.

 

But the most important of all is that we’re looking to bring back the interesting conflicts between clans and groups of clans (alliances). CW is a unique game mode. It shouldn’t be about randomly spamming landings or clicking the leave map button every two days. It should be a struggle for world supremacy. For just spamming battles, we already have the SH game mode and a countless number of tournament. Let’s make CW unique again. Let’s work together for a better future.

 

The meeting in Minsk will be happening pretty soon: at the end of this month already! So… if you’re reading this, then immediately contact your own clan commander and any other clan representatives that you know (also from other clans). Try to get your friends or clanmates to help you. We need as many people as possible to hunt for clan representatives. It doesn’t matter which clans. Just. Do. It. Do anything you can to get clans to sign this. This might be our only chance to get anything done. In Russia, 300 clans signed it. Let us get a high number of signs as well, so that we are taken seriously!

 

Remember, A clan can sign the document by getting a representative of the clan (preferably the commander), to post “signed on behalf of <put clan name here>” in this thread.

 

It’s now your turn!

 

PS: please try to use this thread for just signing the document. If you would like to discuss something regarding this matter, please use the following thread: http://forum.worldof...-how-to-fix-it/

 

THE DOCUMENT IS ATTACHED TO THIS POST.

 

Attached File  EU statement on Clan Wars.docx   27.67K



Daggerheart #2 Posted 16 July 2017 - 11:50 AM

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CW in the beginning was orignal and fantastic. It made this game truly great. CW was the diamond in the crown, and WG took it away...

 

 

Sincerely,

 

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Edited by Daggerheart, 16 July 2017 - 01:22 PM.


The_Hell_From_THE_HAGUE #3 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:00 PM

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pohmel #4 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:05 PM

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_Jergo_ #5 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Stormgar #6 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:16 PM

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n00binlastplace #7 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:19 PM

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NTRS_Jordi #8 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:24 PM

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Folau #9 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:37 PM

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As a side note thank you for being so sensitive to my gender identification (though Shnuks can't spell):

 


Edited by Folau, 16 July 2017 - 12:41 PM.


_CrownVictoria_ #10 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:39 PM

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deep_sea_fish #11 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:46 PM

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Bram000777 #12 Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:48 PM

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Datamursu #13 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:05 PM

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Maybe and hopefully CW will be great again someday but that is long road to be there.

 

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Unknown_Mama #14 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:08 PM

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liefka #15 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:17 PM

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juzzixx #16 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:20 PM

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Edited by juzzixx, 16 July 2017 - 01:42 PM.


lippel89 #17 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:28 PM

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Jansen_Limited #18 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:41 PM

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mightyjosHi #19 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:46 PM

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View Postlippel89, on 16 July 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

Signed on behalf of S4-X

 

Also Signed from S4 and the other Clans of the S4 Community.

S4, S4-x, S4-A, S4-B, S4-D


Edited by mightyjosHi, 16 July 2017 - 05:39 PM.


BRT_Ognjeni #20 Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:53 PM

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