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Poll: Defender back on EU server Pool (769 members have cast votes)

Do you want Defender back ?

  1. Voted Yes (450 votes [58.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 58.37%

  2. No (321 votes [41.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.63%

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Sarajevski_Cevap #1 Posted 20 February 2018 - 03:54 PM

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Bring defender back on EU server as a wargaming staff said "The decision to not sell the Defender in EU was based on player feedback. If you think we should revert this decision you would have to convince other players that it's a good idea, create a movement and shift the player perception of this particular vehicle. " 

So lets make a Pool and see how many want the Defender in the shop for EU server.

 

Edited by SamEffect, 28 February 2018 - 10:45 PM.


Angelo51 #2 Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:08 AM

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Coma_IL #3 Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:11 PM

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Its pretty clear how this poll is already overmatched..


1 year ago when Defender came out, maybe than you could have said its OP, but ever since, tons of new premium tanks which are OPAF and new MM came out aswell.
So now days, Defender is clearly not an OP tank, its just a good Soviet HT, should replace the ridiculous overmatched IS-6.

 



Final_Eclipse #4 Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:56 PM

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View PostComa_IL, on 03 March 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

Its pretty clear how this poll is already overmatched..


1 year ago when Defender came out, maybe than you could have said its OP, but ever since, tons of new premium tanks which are OPAF and new MM came out aswell.
So now days, Defender is clearly not an OP tank, its just a good Soviet HT, should replace the ridiculous overmatched IS-6.

 

 

I completely agree with you :)


Jigabachi #5 Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:17 PM

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View PostComa_IL, on 03 March 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

So now days, Defender is clearly not an OP tank, its just a good Soviet HT, should replace the ridiculous overmatched IS-6.

You should become WG's new balancing dude. You seem to know things.

 

(This post might contain minor sarcasm.)



Final_Eclipse #6 Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:01 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 03 March 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

You should become WG's new balancing dude. You seem to know things.

 

(This post might contain minor sarcasm.)

 

Yes it is Coma_IL very right. And he sees clearly that 80 percent of the machines in the store are out of date. Only Defender is one of the few tanks that have improvements. Or you forget how many new lines with new tanks have already been released. Not to mention that the last two years have released new tanks which, in all statistics and, armor, aiming, speed, accuracy, breakthrough, are better than most premium tanks.

BaldHobbit #7 Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:57 PM

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And some premiums have been buffed - Lowe,  Super Pershing etc. ...

Evilier_than_Skeletor #8 Posted 04 March 2018 - 06:33 PM

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If they were to re-balance it as a tier 8 tank then by all means sell it or give it out in Happy Meals for all I care. Since they won't, the less the better.

Angelo51 #9 Posted 04 March 2018 - 11:16 PM

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Final_Eclipse #10 Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:16 PM

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Most importantly, let's not forget that we do not want to be deprived and discriminated against, so please vote with YES.

Gremlin182 #11 Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:50 PM

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What I want is a decent competitive tier 8 Russian heavy tank that's useful for crew training and earning credits.

Currently that means the defender

 

The IS6 doesn't have the penetration even with premium nor does the KV5

The IS3a is a crewman short due to the autoloader.

 

Then there is the defender which we cannot buy

So the only tier 8 premium that has the ability to fight tier 9 and 10 tanks has been removed because some players think its too overpowered.

 

That is the problem.

Solution put the IS3 gun on the IS6

Create a new tier 8 premium heavy

Bring back the Defender



Final_Eclipse #12 Posted 05 March 2018 - 04:02 PM

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View PostGremlin182, on 05 March 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

What I want is a decent competitive tier 8 Russian heavy tank that's useful for crew training and earning credits.

Currently that means the defender

 

The IS6 doesn't have the penetration even with premium nor does the KV5

The IS3a is a crewman short due to the autoloader.

 

Then there is the defender which we cannot buy

So the only tier 8 premium that has the ability to fight tier 9 and 10 tanks has been removed because some players think its too overpowered.

 

That is the problem.

Solution put the IS3 gun on the IS6

Create a new tier 8 premium heavy

Bring back the Defender

 

I completely agree


Angelo51 #13 Posted 06 March 2018 - 01:53 AM

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View PostSamEffect, on 20 February 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

Bring defender back on EU server as a wargaming staff said "The decision to not sell the Defender in EU was based on player feedback. If you think we should revert this decision you would have to convince other players that it's a good idea, create a movement and shift the player perception of this particular vehicle. " 

So lets make a Pool and see how many want the Defender in the shop for EU server.

 

 

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StuffKnight #14 Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:44 AM

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Tier VIII is sh*t enough without a bunch of 45%'ers using this OP idiot-proof carry machine to make themselves feel good about their abilities when it's really just down to a broken armour model and absurd pen/alpha combo combined with DURR FACEHUG.



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View PostGremlin182, on 05 March 2018 - 02:50 PM, said:

What I want is a decent competitive tier 8 Russian heavy tank that's useful for crew training and earning credits.

Currently that means the defender

 

The IS6 doesn't have the penetration even with premium nor does the KV5

The IS3a is a crewman short due to the autoloader.

 

Then there is the defender which we cannot buy

So the only tier 8 premium that has the ability to fight tier 9 and 10 tanks has been removed because some players think its too overpowered.

 

That is the problem.

Solution put the IS3 gun on the IS6

Create a new tier 8 premium heavy

Bring back the Defender

 

Don't forget those of us who have the IS-5 .. when you meet the defender in the IS-5 you can just lol at how ridiculous things are. 

 

 

 



Final_Eclipse #16 Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:02 AM

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Regarding what machine you have, you are not trying to remove a tank that has been refreshed, but try to make WG to renovate the old ones. Because again I will repeat 80% of all the tanks in the store are already very old.
So do not try to think as retirees but think rightfully to have more tanks like the Defender and let them update all the old so there will be no need for these discussions and nonsense that everyone writes.

 

I'll give you an example: You buy a Mercedes or a Ferrari and suddenly they say ... this is a very expensive car, too expensive, it's too fast, better get it and get a car from the 80s in a more reliable slower dull.
This is at the moment the words of everyone who wants to remove the Defender from the market. This is your logic.

 

But in fact, it is very simple to add more and more as a Defender and to renew all the old ones then there will be no need to speak such stupidity.



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I hope never put it back on the shop, we don t need more defender in game

Final_Eclipse #18 Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:37 AM

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View PostOne_Joke, on 06 March 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

I hope never put it back on the shop, we don t need more defender in game

 

Here we are not talking whether we want or not. This is not a game played by some people, this is a game that is played by nearly a million and they all want to have a balance, and the balance has been achieved by introducing new techniques and improvements. If there are no tanks like Defender, we're left to play a game that's already out of date and there's no balance. Once the Defender does not want it, we must also remove all NEW the lines of the Russians from the France and the Chinese from this logic.
Because they are all very, very STRONG to all others.

Edited by final_eclipse, 06 March 2018 - 09:54 AM.


Kissa_ei_kuulu_pakkaseen #19 Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:41 AM

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View Postfinal_eclipse, on 06 March 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

Here we are not talking whether we want or not. This is not a game played by some people, this is a game that is played by nearly a million and they all want to have a balance, and the balance has been achieved by introducing new techniques and improvements. If there are no tanks like Defender, we're left to play a game that's already out of date and there's no balance. Once the Defender does not want it, we must also remove all NEW the lines of the Russians from the France and the Chinese from this logic.
Because they are all very, very STRONG to all others.

What French line are you referring you to?

 

There is only one heavy line and it's crap...


Edited by test_2018, 06 March 2018 - 10:41 AM.


Jigabachi #20 Posted 06 March 2018 - 10:51 AM

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View Postfinal_eclipse, on 06 March 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

BIG BOLD FONT MEANS I'M MORE RIGHT!1

Feel free to stop that, it's getting annoying. Same with the spam in EVERY thread about this...

We know by now that you REALLY want your padding tank. :rolleyes:

 

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I'll give you an example: You buy a Mercedes or a Ferrari and suddenly they say ... this is a very expensive car, too expensive, it's too fast, better get it and get a car from the 80s in a more reliable slower dull.
This is at the moment the words of everyone who wants to remove the Defender from the market. This is your logic.

That comparison is just horribly stupid... better leave that logic-thing to smarter people.

 


Edited by Jigabachi, 06 March 2018 - 12:23 PM.






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