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moose100's Photo moose100 11 Apr 2012

Well to me this TD was a real disappointment, The turning turret is not that much of a benefit because you start to play it like a heavy then get nuked in the 50mm side armour.
So easy to be killed by anything :(
Then this happened, and i was happy for a couple of games.
Mastery badge:1 class, Reaper, Boetlers medal, Lavrinenkos medal:2 class, Defender, Sniper, Top gun.. All in 1 battle :)
Tanks destroyed were  IS, AMX 13-75, T29, IS3, SU-100, T50-2, M26 PERISHING..
Brief love. Then hate again. Then sold it. LOL
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Black_Gold_Saw's Photo Black_Gold_Saw 11 Apr 2012

I need 100.000 xp for T28 prototype and in test server i played with it. So im getting this one.
I don't get it why you sold it? makes alot of credits good xp.
In good hands T28 prototype can be good. But with every tank thats the case <_<

But i see you only shot 13 rounds so i think that are low HP kills.
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TorontoTankt0ps's Photo TorontoTankt0ps 11 Apr 2012

I don't know where this tank has 200mm armour on hull, KV5 or a Tiger can easily pen front hull with a quick snap shot :lol:
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moose100's Photo moose100 11 Apr 2012

Hmm why u squirt on my happy moment about my rare achievement lol.
Yes only 13 shots, but they all hit, and on that map it is very easy for a td to be flanked with no easy way to hide and snipe.
I enjoyed my moment hehe.
I sold it because i got fed up of being one shotted every time by tier 5 arty, and yes that front armour has some big issues.
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TorontoTankt0ps's Photo TorontoTankt0ps 11 Apr 2012

Yep very big issues, my front just got damaged by a AMX12t using HE  :D
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Oublieux's Photo Oublieux 12 Apr 2012

better get camo to 100%...
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3Form's Photo 3Form 13 Apr 2012

Oh god, I read somewhere that it didnt have the same front armour problems as the T28... I guess it does?

Might not go for it after all :(
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Thunder_Pig's Photo Thunder_Pig 13 Apr 2012

Love this tank. Got the 120mm, play it like a Slugger on steroids. Pick a spot to defend from, don't rush. Just like the normal T28 and T95 the crappy speed means you need the rest of the team to help you, if they suck you lose for sure. Costs are better than the T32 heavy (I think) but the 120mm ammo is very pricey. The front armour is brilliant, I've bounced BL-10's and the IS-4's gun before, my preferred tactic is to poke the front round a corner/rock just enough to get LOS and watch everyone bounce off me. Sloping isn't brilliant but angling the tank helps. The biggest downsides are it's speed (obvs) which means any great distance up a hill may as well be a hike to China. The turret helps with being caught in close-quarters but like all TD's any decent medium or heavy will murder you with little trouble. With it being open-topped as well you are defo more vulnerable to arty and your speed and size only exaggerate that risk. The length is also a problem (hurr!) as it needs more clearance than normal to rotate on the spot and you need to remember to get your behind in cover as well. The 'cheeks' of the turret are a notable weakspot I'd say, the majority of the damage I take head-on is from shots hitting either side of the gun mantlet.

Like all the American TD's it's eccentric and has to be played a certain way, very rewarding if you enjoy the playstyle, aggravating if you don't.
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ColonelTrautman's Photo ColonelTrautman 14 Apr 2012

I got the T-28 proto. Luckily i grinded the T95 so got the 120mm straight away. I always enjoyed this gun on the T28. Halfway there and enjoying it. Too slow for me longterm as i like my TD's fast as i'm an aggressive player. Nothing worse wanting to get in on the action then realising your a tortoise and will take alday to get there. As poster above your frontal armour is your best friend in battle. Just don't show them your sides or your history.
My mate also has one. Did a Himmeldorf yesterday going side by side down the 'corridor of death.' Was an epic push laying waste to anything in our path. Bounced too many shells and made it to the flag waiting for the medium rush reversal from the hill. Took them out and won. If every game was that epic then i'd keep her.
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ShadyDave's Photo ShadyDave 14 Apr 2012

13 shots to get that amount of kills? Very lucky battle but Congratulations nonetheless.

200+ games away from the T28Prot although I may hang myself from the balcony before I accomplish that end ^^  :P
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panzerknackers's Photo panzerknackers 15 Apr 2012

i actually like the t28 proto, deff a step up from the garbage that is the t25/2.
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Oublieux's Photo Oublieux 15 Apr 2012

 panzerknackers, on 15 April 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

i actually like the t28 proto, deff a step up from the garbage that is the t25/2.

a spud gun would be better than what the 25/2 has
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panzerknackers's Photo panzerknackers 15 Apr 2012

 Thracius, on 15 April 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

a spud gun would be better than what the 25/2 has
lol, id have to agree  :Smile_honoring:
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TorontoTankt0ps's Photo TorontoTankt0ps 16 Apr 2012

 Thunder_Pig, on 13 April 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Love this tank. Got the 120mm, play it like a Slugger on steroids. Pick a spot to defend from, don't rush. Just like the normal T28 and T95 the crappy speed means you need the rest of the team to help you, if they suck you lose for sure. Costs are better than the T32 heavy (I think) but the 120mm ammo is very pricey. The front armour is brilliant, I've bounced BL-10's and the IS-4's gun before, my preferred tactic is to poke the front round a corner/rock just enough to get LOS and watch everyone bounce off me. Sloping isn't brilliant but angling the tank helps. The biggest downsides are it's speed (obvs) which means any great distance up a hill may as well be a hike to China. The turret helps with being caught in close-quarters but like all TD's any decent medium or heavy will murder you with little trouble. With it being open-topped as well you are defo more vulnerable to arty and your speed and size only exaggerate that risk. The length is also a problem (hurr!) as it needs more clearance than normal to rotate on the spot and you need to remember to get your behind in cover as well. The 'cheeks' of the turret are a notable weakspot I'd say, the majority of the damage I take head-on is from shots hitting either side of the gun mantlet.

Like all the American TD's it's eccentric and has to be played a certain way, very rewarding if you enjoy the playstyle, aggravating if you don't.
its armour is weak so it is a sneak and peek in most maps. I've never bounced any tier 9 0r 10 yet. Must be luck cause I angle my tank and it still gets wasted :D
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Rexonon's Photo Rexonon 16 Apr 2012

This tank is brilliant.

It was a pain in stock form with the ridiculous 90mm that was just as crap on the T25/2... and hot damn was that tank a piece of crap...

I did however still find the tank fun to use and I have since got it fully upgraded. The 120mm is fantastic with good penetration and massive damage (Something I'm not used to as a medium tank driver usually)

My opinion on the armour seems to differ to other people's. I am able to bounce/deflect a heck of a lot of shots on the front armour but at the same time I had a game last night were a T-50-2 killed me by shooting the soft rear of my tank although he did ricochet a lot of those rounds also as I was fighting off 3 other tanks directly in front of me.

Not to mention the gun depression (like most USA tanks) is extremely impressive and can be a total lifesaver as well as having a rotating turret. The accuracy is pretty good too but is devastating to miss one of those 400 damage shots with a 8-9 second reload time. (Not sure how much a rammer would help? anyone know?

All-in-all I really like this tank. The grind was arduous and got me really frustrated (T25/2 yes I mean you) but overall I suppose it was worth the grind. I think the greatest benefit in this grind is being able to hop back over to the T28 and onto the T95 on the tech tree!
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Orgun's Photo Orgun 16 Apr 2012

I've had way too many Top Gun/Boelter defeats with this thing and way too many victories where I barely had a chance to shoot at anything, but I don't really mind because it's been incredibly good fun the whole time.
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Wahrstinker's Photo Wahrstinker 17 Apr 2012

 panzerknackers, on 15 April 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

i actually like the t28 proto, deff a step up from the garbage that is the t25/2.

That was exactly my thought before i played both tanks.

Afterwards i am not so sure any more...
The T25/2 has a serious underpowered gun for sure, but having a good crew, the ability to reach forward positions unseen opens up SO much opportunities!
In that regard the slow and sluggish T28 proto is at a serious disadvantage, and (having played just 30 games) i have not decided yet, if the much much better gun outweights this disadvantage.

 Orgun, on 16 April 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

I've had way too many Top Gun/Boelter defeats with this thing and way too many victories where I barely had a chance to shoot at anything, but I don't really mind because it's been incredibly good fun the whole time.

This sums it up nicely i think. You are too slow to keep up with the frontline oftentimes (where you belong with that good frontal armor imo), and when it turns out that you have lots of targets, you often loose...
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MeTaLMooSe's Photo MeTaLMooSe 18 Apr 2012

Just got Proto. Free XP'd my way out of the 25/2 and also got the 120mm after a few games.
Armour? Hmmm unsure at present with only a few games. Turret lets snowball dent it though if you hull down.
Gun has good damage and rate of fire. Accuracy is down to RNG I think. I had games where it was ace others I couldn't hit a barn let alone it's door!
It's very slow though. I got overtaken by a KV then a KV3. That was embarrassing! I use 100% octane gas and it accelerates very quickly. Pretty good for playing peek a boo.
Can't say whether I'll be too chuffed with the grind for T30. It's ok but not a keeper.
I really want that T30 though so the grind goes on.
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MeTaLMooSe's Photo MeTaLMooSe 19 Apr 2012

Few more battles with pumpkin head.
Sloooooooow. Like steamroller slow.
Gun seem's very fickle and susceptible to the RNG. Some games it hit's well others it's like flinging cowpats from a trebuchet. when it's working it is good though.
Hull armour is ok and will bounce the lower tier guns. Turret armour is awful. Considering it's gun depression hulling down seem's sensible, except that provides only the juicy pumpkin of a turret for the enemy to batter.
Burns well. I will have to swap out the 100% octane for a fire extinguisher.
Did I mention it's slow?
I need to roam closer to base in it too. It's just too slow to reach a spot to provide much use. Either your allies have won their encounter or are getting steamrollered. I which case you join them in the steamrollery.
Arty. Don't mention that filthy word in a Proto and offer a blessing to your chosen saint. if they spot you it's game over.
Maybe it's the times I'm playing but I have had some god awful teams that are fantastic at being wiped out. You feel helpless in Proto as you can neither dash to give assistance, relocate to another flank or turn tail to base to defend flag. Several times I've held my ground and thwarted an assut only to look at the teams and found mine mostly gone. That's the game though not the tank.
It's my first really slow tank so I make no excuses at my poor W/L %. Going to have to work hard at finding where this TD performs best.

Jeez I gave up tonight.
Despite 5 kills defending base my team still played like it was cool to be noob.
In fact 19th April is noob festival as I've had a frickin' night of 'em.
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Darzok's Photo Darzok 19 Apr 2012

Well metal just be happy its not the T28 same armor same speed but lacks a turret so is easy to disable by having a tank next to it or when detracked.
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