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Did this tank destroyer existed

  1. Yes (1 vote [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  2. NO (11 votes [39.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.29%

  3. WTF 300 mm caliber (16 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

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2alertred #1 Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

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Did this veicle realy existed:
http://shrani.si/f/7...72R0k/su250.jpg


It has bigger gun than isu or object.

RoyalSnail #2 Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:47 PM

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lol @ the Derp!  :blink:

2alertred #3 Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:53 PM

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View Postabbyabz, on 28 April 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

lol @ the Derp!  :blink:

It would be funny to watch maus geting hit by this  :Smile_great:  .

Alpharius #4 Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:57 PM

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View Post2alertred, on 28 April 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

It would be funny to watch maus geting hit by this  :Smile_great:  .

That one bounced... :P

Catarraz #5 Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:03 PM

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Of course it didn't exist. (Sadly)

2alertred #6 Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:09 PM

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View PostUMM, on 28 April 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Of course it didn't exist. (Sadly)

It does exist  :Smile_great:  . But question is where.

Jogonam #7 Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:59 PM

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yes

Ubertoaster #8 Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:30 PM

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It was supposed to exist in Red Alert 2, but was cut form the game for unknown reasons.

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Full Item Description
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is from a design standpoint a very conventional design. The engine and crew are housed in a solid box like main hull that sports surprisingly thick armor, the front glacis have a sloped contour. The turret houses the main cannon, a 130mm low velocity smooth-bore gun, as well as a pair of remote controlled machine guns. One gun is mounted co-axially with the cannon, the other sits atop the turret and can be fired manually.

The power for the tank comes from a compact fission reactor located in the rear of the vehicle. This creates a large amount of waste heat and radiation, so most crews have enviromental suits and respirators. This doesnt do much for the toxic emissions that are vented out of the tank, so most other infantry units will do their best to avoid the tank, friendly or otherwise. The fissionable engine gives the Id.Y-11 two considerable drawbacks, it is very heavy, and it’s heat signature makes it an easy target for heat seeking weaponry. The tank does have almost unlimited range due to it’s robust electric drive motors, an impressive cruise speed for it’s weight, and is surprisingly mechanically reliable.

The main cannon, noted for being medium ranged at best and not very accurate, fires a special high explosive round. Essentially a mini-nuke, each shell is a pocket atom bomb. The low velocity of the gun is required to keep the internal mechanisms of the shell from collapsing under acceleration in the barrel. Since the explosion from the shell, usually in the range of .1 to .15 kilotons is more than enough to destroy most any single building or enemy vehicle, accuracy and range werent considered very important.ly so.

History
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank entered into a battlefield that was dominated largely by mecha, platoons of powered armor infantry, and other high tech weaponry. In this battlefield, the tank had become a lowly auxilliary unit. The designers at Indirista-Yaril saw a potential way to bring what was considered an obsolete mode of warfare back into relevance. The tank had advantages that had long been overlooked in the tech arms races. The design is easy to construct, easy to maintain, and a tank can carry drastically more armor than a mecha of similar weight. The tank can also mount large weapons that are often more cumbersome than mecha pilots would care to carry.

The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is a mixture of highly dangerous components, equally intimitation and devastating effect. Most mecha are seriously damaged even by a near miss of the atomic cannon, and infantry units suffer hideous losses, sometimes years after facing a Id.Y-11. Survivors generally agree that the lucky soldiers were the ones who died quickly from flash burns, shrapnel, and other blast debris. The unlucky ones were those who lingered with debilitating cancers. One survivor was unluckly enough to bring home a radioactive fragment of shell casing in his torso. He died soon after, but not before the peice of radioactive shrapnel gave three of his family members cancer as well.

Most tank crews who operate this monster avoid this sort of exposure, mostly due to a mix of protective gear and anti-radiation drugs.

Deploymeny
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is almost never used by what are deemed First Rank powers. These militaries rely on superheavy tanks and mecha and power armor almost exclusively. Instead, the Id.Y-11 is deployed by secondary and tertiary powers who dont have the resources to maintain large mecha armies or similar weaponry. Most enemy forces will attempt negotiation rather than face the Id.Y-11 on the field of battle. The tank itself is only moderately formidable, but it’s deployment is considered a form of Scorched Earth warfare. Even destroying a Y-11 causes it’s reactor to vent toxic substances around the vehicle, or in the right conditions, to go critial for an even larger dirty explosion.

The manufacturer, Indarista-Yaril has produced several thousand of these tanks and has a small but steady demand for them. The most common use for these is to defend worlds that are deemed unihabitable, but valuable. These worlds tend to be lacking enviroment, or are hostile enough to life that there is no measurable biosphere. The manufacturer has faced multiple charges from stellar powers, but the company has yet to be shut down, or suffered a raid serious enough to bring production to a halt. As can be expected, the primary factory is protected by a battalion of Id.Y-11s outfitted with the latest in electronics and armor.

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View Post2alertred, on 28 April 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

Full Item Description
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is from a design standpoint a very conventional design. The engine and crew are housed in a solid box like main hull that sports surprisingly thick armor, the front glacis have a sloped contour. The turret houses the main cannon, a 130mm low velocity smooth-bore gun, as well as a pair of remote controlled machine guns. One gun is mounted co-axially with the cannon, the other sits atop the turret and can be fired manually.

The power for the tank comes from a compact fission reactor located in the rear of the vehicle. This creates a large amount of waste heat and radiation, so most crews have enviromental suits and respirators. This doesnt do much for the toxic emissions that are vented out of the tank, so most other infantry units will do their best to avoid the tank, friendly or otherwise. The fissionable engine gives the Id.Y-11 two considerable drawbacks, it is very heavy, and it’s heat signature makes it an easy target for heat seeking weaponry. The tank does have almost unlimited range due to it’s robust electric drive motors, an impressive cruise speed for it’s weight, and is surprisingly mechanically reliable.

The main cannon, noted for being medium ranged at best and not very accurate, fires a special high explosive round. Essentially a mini-nuke, each shell is a pocket atom bomb. The low velocity of the gun is required to keep the internal mechanisms of the shell from collapsing under acceleration in the barrel. Since the explosion from the shell, usually in the range of .1 to .15 kilotons is more than enough to destroy most any single building or enemy vehicle, accuracy and range werent considered very important.ly so.

History
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank entered into a battlefield that was dominated largely by mecha, platoons of powered armor infantry, and other high tech weaponry. In this battlefield, the tank had become a lowly auxilliary unit. The designers at Indirista-Yaril saw a potential way to bring what was considered an obsolete mode of warfare back into relevance. The tank had advantages that had long been overlooked in the tech arms races. The design is easy to construct, easy to maintain, and a tank can carry drastically more armor than a mecha of similar weight. The tank can also mount large weapons that are often more cumbersome than mecha pilots would care to carry.

The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is a mixture of highly dangerous components, equally intimitation and devastating effect. Most mecha are seriously damaged even by a near miss of the atomic cannon, and infantry units suffer hideous losses, sometimes years after facing a Id.Y-11. Survivors generally agree that the lucky soldiers were the ones who died quickly from flash burns, shrapnel, and other blast debris. The unlucky ones were those who lingered with debilitating cancers. One survivor was unluckly enough to bring home a radioactive fragment of shell casing in his torso. He died soon after, but not before the peice of radioactive shrapnel gave three of his family members cancer as well.

Most tank crews who operate this monster avoid this sort of exposure, mostly due to a mix of protective gear and anti-radiation drugs.

Deploymeny
The Id.Y-11 Heavy Tank is almost never used by what are deemed First Rank powers. These militaries rely on superheavy tanks and mecha and power armor almost exclusively. Instead, the Id.Y-11 is deployed by secondary and tertiary powers who dont have the resources to maintain large mecha armies or similar weaponry. Most enemy forces will attempt negotiation rather than face the Id.Y-11 on the field of battle. The tank itself is only moderately formidable, but it’s deployment is considered a form of Scorched Earth warfare. Even destroying a Y-11 causes it’s reactor to vent toxic substances around the vehicle, or in the right conditions, to go critial for an even larger dirty explosion.

The manufacturer, Indarista-Yaril has produced several thousand of these tanks and has a small but steady demand for them. The most common use for these is to defend worlds that are deemed unihabitable, but valuable. These worlds tend to be lacking enviroment, or are hostile enough to life that there is no measurable biosphere. The manufacturer has faced multiple charges from stellar powers, but the company has yet to be shut down, or suffered a raid serious enough to bring production to a halt. As can be expected, the primary factory is protected by a battalion of Id.Y-11s outfitted with the latest in electronics and armor.


Then it must be real.

SandmanX #11 Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:49 PM

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DEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP _/

2alertred #12 Posted 29 April 2012 - 04:52 PM

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BattleMetalChris #13 Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

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130mm gun?

So the tank is about 4 feet long...?  :rolleyes:

Honza_H34 #14 Posted 30 April 2012 - 12:16 AM

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You misunderstood the picture. On the drawing it is facing backwards and it is not a TD but rocket-powered armored troop carrier, what you thought was gun is actually rocket engine that had to be moved outside of vehicle to make room for carried troops. It was tested extensively, but carried soldiers suffered from many both mental and physical diseases, including the well known head-explosion syndrome.

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The Tu-95LAL is real though:

Although only in testing. This bomber had a nuclear reactor for propulsion.
There were big problems with shielding against radiation.


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Introduction of "Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles" made this tech obsolete though...

2alertred #16 Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:29 AM

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View PostHonza_H34, on 30 April 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

You misunderstood the picture. On the drawing it is facing backwards and it is not a TD but rocket-powered armored troop carrier, what you thought was gun is actually rocket engine that had to be moved outside of vehicle to make room for carried troops. It was tested extensively, but carried soldiers suffered from many both mental and physical diseases, including the well known head-explosion syndrome.

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Nope:
http://shrani.si/f/B...q5BF7/focus.png

http://shrani.si/f/3...wsKW/focus2.png

In action:
http://shrani.si/f/3...sgZV/focus3.png

themaelstorm #17 Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:45 AM

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What's this mod? :o

2alertred #18 Posted 30 April 2012 - 11:52 AM

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View Postthemaelstorm, on 30 April 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

What's this mod? :o

http://mo.cncguild.n...lied_structures

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Briefly back onto aeroplanes again, what's that thing mounted in the middle of that Bear's fuselage, with the tubes going to the inboard engines?

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View PostBattleMetalChris, on 30 April 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Briefly back onto aeroplanes again, what's that thing mounted in the middle of that Bear's fuselage, with the tubes going to the inboard engines?


Nuclear reactor to run those turboprops.

They also had a design that didn't have onboard cooling system.
They just vented the radiactive pollution into the air (which was just as harmfull as the bombs they dropped).




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