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Poll: T44 OP ? (461 members have cast votes)

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Is the T44 OP ?

  1. Yes in general (71 votes [15.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.64%

  2. Yes in gorups they are a BIG winning factor (85 votes [18.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.72%

  3. No (239 votes [52.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.64%

  4. Yes and NO, they are balanced with the Panther but not the lower tiers in comparison with the panther (59 votes [13.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.00%

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Gies84 #1 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:06 AM

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i would like to make this a public discussion because i have seen it more than one time that the T44 was THE winning factor
please also write which tank you are driving and what you voted


here a text ive written in another topic in Nerd Rage mode

"had a battle yesterday we had KT some tigers and a Jagdtiger the enemy 4 T44´s and 2 panthers gues what happened we lost in about 1-2minutes these "balanced" T44 just swarmed us together with the panther NO CHANCE IN HELL we couldnt do anything and if someone tells me again "DUH just detrack them" i punch him in the face!, i faced a t44 with my vk3002DB shot his tracks 3!! TIMES with the 88L56 NOTHING happened no ding no damage nothing, but it was a hit, i shot the right track once and the left track twice in a row nothing, was killed without doing damage now go and tell me the T44 is not OP its a battlechanger if there are so many of them if we wouldve had a IS4 we probably still would have lost they were swarming us like killerbees."

sharpeh #2 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:16 AM

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Yes but not by much.

Sturmtiger_304 #3 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:17 AM

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Way too high acceleration on the engine.

52km/h top speed, the same as a scout light tank.

AlarmedBread #4 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:19 AM

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It's not the t44's fault that this game favors mediums. I have seen several battles won very quickly because 5-7 mediums have all rushed out together and stormed into the enemy base while arty support rips up the heavies. In fact several of the more successful rushes I have seen did not involve the t44 at all, VK, t34, panther. Medium swarms are where it's at.

Gies84 #5 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:23 AM

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View PostAlarmedBread, on 23 September 2010 - 08:19 AM, said:

It's not the t44's fault that this game favors mediums. I have seen several battles won very quickly because 5-7 mediums have all rushed out together and stormed into the enemy base while arty support rips up the heavies. In fact several of the more successful rushes I have seen did not involve the t44 at all, VK, t34, panther. Medium swarms are where it's at.

yeah but t44´s are by far the hardest tragets to hit and they bounce a lot of shots and even a hit, doesnt really do much damage the engine almost never gets hurt sometimes the tracks but ive seen it happen way mroe often on my VK3002DB than on the t44. Also they are so hard hitting that arty is only a minor factor

Darzok #6 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:33 AM

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There fine once you guys learn how to aim the big bad T-44 just become's a pain in arse but still easy to beat.

I do not own a T-44 but i have killed tons and tons and tons there not hard to kill.

sharpeh #7 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:37 AM

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View Postdarzok, on 23 September 2010 - 08:33 AM, said:

There fine once you guys learn how to aim the big bad T-44 just become's a pain in arse but still easy to beat.

I do not own a T-44 but i have killed tons and tons and tons there not hard to kill.

Actually....they are about the same difficulty to kill as a panther (not counting sloped armor) but twice as agile. It's a little messed up.

A tank that agile shouldn't require 6 (GOOD) shots as a minimum. It's bad enough the Leo takes 2 (GOOD) shots to kill.

Gies84 #8 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:40 AM

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View Postdarzok, on 23 September 2010 - 08:33 AM, said:

There fine once you guys learn how to aim the big bad T-44 just become's a pain in arse but still easy to beat.

I do not own a T-44 but i have killed tons and tons and tons there not hard to kill.
if you are very good, they may be not that hard, but isnt that the case with all op vehicles that use speed as their armor?
i think the is4 is also OP, but thats because of his armor and not his speed.

and i would like to know which tank(s) you drive

bubbs #9 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:53 AM

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T44s are tricky but they are the only tank I can consistently get ammo rack explosions on, so I don't complain. They are more vulnerable to critical hits, it seems.

In the hands of a skilled medium driver they can be deadly. Just circle and fire on weak spots.

sharpeh #10 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:55 AM

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View Postbubbs, on 23 September 2010 - 08:53 AM, said:

T44s are tricky but they are the only tank I can consistently get ammo rack explosions on, so I don't complain. They are more vulnerable to critical hits, it seems.

In the hands of a skilled medium driver they can be deadly. Just circle and fire on weak spots.

They are vulnerable to ammo explosions, they used to be vulnerable to them like my tiger is vulnerable to ammo rack damages. However they got a buff in that regard in a recent patch.

Gies84 #11 Posted 23 September 2010 - 08:55 AM

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come on people dont just vote tell me why youve voted it and what tanks you drive

Gies84 #12 Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:20 AM

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why did this topic land in the soviet tank medium section ? if this a public survey for everyone of course here, everyone will vote NO !!

Sykotic #13 Posted 23 September 2010 - 10:56 AM

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This topic was moved because it was specifically about the T-44 and not about a specific Tier or a specific issue relating to gameplay.

I own a T-44 and have some experience driving it and all sorts of other vehicles. Based on my experience, the T-44 is not overpowered. It is the the top Tier Russian Medium and as such is better than all the other Mediums (it is equal to the Panther). Because it is a Tier 8 vehicle it is just as difficult to kill as other Tier 8 vehicles such as the IS-3, King Tiger, Ferdinand, ISU-152, and Panther. The only vehicle in that list with less health than the T-44 is the ISU-152 (barely). All of the other vehicles have superior armor/health. The ISU-152 has a serious firepower and camouflage advantage instead of health/armor advantage. The T-44's advantages are it's speed and maneuverability.

In a battle with mostly Tier 8+ vehicles the T-44 is typically at a disadvantage. Especially if those Tier 8+ vehicles are Heavy Tanks. The T-44 lacks the firepower to effectively engage Tier 8+ Heavies in anything other than a supporting or hit & run role. The normal role the T-44 has on the battlefield is that of Scout/Arty/Medium Hunter or Heavy Tank Support. Against lower Tier Medium Tanks the T-44 should and does have a tactical advantage. As does the Panther. The VK3002(DB) and T-43 also have a tactical advantage against lower Tier Medium Tanks and so on so forth right down the line of vehicles.

When Medium Tanks start to move in packs and tactically support each other to swarm single targets they will quickly destroy the target. Heavy Tanks need to be supported by Medium Tanks. That is how the game is balanced. People do not seem to grasp this concept, but that will quickly change once Clan Battles are introduced and the tactics used in such battles start to trickle down in to random battles. Tactics will quickly evolve based on team vehicle makeup, enemy vehicle makeup, terrain, and battle goals. Right now "Random" is the correct word for battles. One battle you may have a lot of teamwork and cooperation and decimate your opponents. The next battle it may be every person for themselves.

TLDR Answer: The T-44 is appropriately balanced for it's Tier. Team tactics are currently lacking in most matches and that is why the T-44 seems overpowered against lower Tier targets.

Cpt_Kill_Jack #14 Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:52 PM

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I answered Yes in groups because I have been running around in a platoon of my T34-85, and two T44s and we roll as a group and circle the wagons on the heavies and anything else we find. The combination of the 122mm and the gun the T44s are using is quite devastating. Out of 25 battles in one night we played like this only 2 were a loss because the teamed us from multiple angles. I am also trying to get to the T44 before the championship or Ill have to use my IS-3 with a group of T44s.

yifanwang99 #15 Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:55 PM

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I think that their durability is the problem. Their turrent is very well sloped armoured which means you have to use manual aim to shoot their tracks/hull, and to do that you need to be close, and if you are close to a T44 its game over for most people who're not in another T8 medium.

Also, it somewhat worries me that in the future 'full tree', the T54 will be classified as equals to the panther II and the M26, I wonder how that will work out  :blink:

hellig #16 Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:27 PM

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is that why it always feels like i get detracked and nuked fast in my t44 ? :P

feels like i get more detracked on the t44 than the pz3

Ragor #17 Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:48 PM

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I own a T44 by myself. Rest of my garage are german tanks. The T44 is for me for sure a game breaker. A always moving and enemy circling T44 is more or less unstoppable. Perhaps its just my bad luck, with my german tanks i have internal damage or shot of tracks nearly every game (especially my Tiger II has a crist-magnet installed...), but with the T44 it is always a very rare situation.

And guess what? I drive this iWin-Tank T44 really rare. Only when I lost some games in a row (with my german tanks) and need a nasty success to cheer me up I use the T44.

Just a OP gamebreaker. And a clear 'no', driving a T44 has not much to do with skill after you found out the basic tactics.

Lloydyboy #18 Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:07 PM

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imo the thing is buggy, you can withstand hits from arty, and yet you get 1 shotted by a Tiger 1 to the front, or even loose 900HP from 1 hit from a weaker T-44...

Yesterday i went toe-to-toe with a King Tiger even though i took (what i assume) 17 hits all around the tank from other tanks and survive and the next battle i lost my entire crew to 1 shot with a Panzer III 75mm

the next battle i took on the entire team and destroyed 8 tanks (2 tigers, 3 Panzer IVs, 1 IS, 2 Leopards and a S-51) and survive, then the next battle i die immediatly from 1 shot by a King tiger... honest to god the thing is just really buggy

Vidster #19 Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:56 PM

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Decided to give mine another outing today. The very first shot was another PZ-III. Yet again my ammo rack was gone. The T-44 isn't a patch on what it used to be.

38602 #20 Posted 23 September 2010 - 07:26 PM

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one T-44 can't do anything interesting, but whene there are 4-5 T-44... :Smile_harp:




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