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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

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Hey guys! Thought I'd repost this as I'm really looking for some comments on this and I stupidly posted the original one immediately after the forum maintenance which means nobody was online -.- Feel free to delete the original one for any moderators!

As some of you may already know, I was pondering about creating a 'Chinese' clan of sorts not too long ago in this thread. After some time I have been given ample proof to suggest that Chinese clans already exist on the European server and in quite a sizeable number. I looked through all of them but unfortunately none of them contained any 'European' influence, I myself have spend exactly half of my life in China and the other half in Europe, I can no longer be considered fully 'Chinese' in many ways, so I decided not to join any of them.

But the situation I find myself in now is different to when I created the previous clan thread. It would appear my former clan leader saw my post and decided to remove me from the clan 'to help me attain my goal'. A bit confusing for me considering I never asked to leave, but yeah, I can understand why he did it. But this still leaves me with a question of a clan.

I have...after long discussions and many many MANY consultations with various people, have decided I will create my own clan. However, unlike most other clans I can think of, my clan will have only one major purpose, and that is to train new players AND/OR players who still want to learn from others, a 'Tank Academy' of sorts.

I hope....and it's just a hope....that one day it may be a default choice of players who wants to learn about the game, because let's all admit it, this game has a DAMN difficult learning curve. Recently I have personally been requested to 'teach' a few newbie players on the art of WoT, and it was from this experience and my unique circumstances right now that sprung my idea.

So I was just wondering... would you guys support me if I created such a clan? Because I do see that inevitably the success of my clan will depend on the forum people's support, as we won't be doing anything ambitious like Clan Wars or such. perhaps if you guys can just suggest a newbie player asking a tip on the forum to even just consult us that'll be great. Otherwise I am doubtful that I can get enough 'publicity' to actually get people to know my clan exists.

But naturally, forming such a clan I will definitely need help. And indeed, anyone who feels like helping out others with less experience or showing others the good sides of this game is more than welcome to participate in my clan.

No loyalty to the clan required, no fuss! And that applies to both teachers and pupils. Once a newbie has learned what he/she thinks is enough, he/she is welcome to leave and search for a proper clan per se.

Would REALLY appreciate some feedback on this. As inevitably, the success of my idea is pretty much utterly dependent on forum dwellers.

If you guys have any comments or any ideas you think I could use, lets hear them! I'm all ears!

I plan to create my clan in the few days after May 9th 2012.

Thank you for reading this rather long post! :honoring:
Edited by Ding760, Yesterday, 11:47 AM.
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JoonKaboon's Photo JoonKaboon 03 May 2012

Hey dude,
ill support you -> newbies on the forum will be redirected to your clan :)
Also great idea. If youre doing tank company, and im online, just contact me and ill join :)
ive got some tips of my own, but most are gotten from the forum anyways xD
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BoosB's Photo BoosB 03 May 2012

I think such clans are excellent ideas. Not only for the newbies, but sometimes also for more experienced tankers to work on better skills.
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Alighierian's Photo Alighierian 03 May 2012

nice idea, I'm willing to help with practical training (given I'm available and not blowing up tanks in CW etc ^__^)
just send me a pm if you'd like some assistance (i can train in arties and TD's mainly, heavies a bit but meds and lights not so much)
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DerZivilist's Photo DerZivilist 03 May 2012

There is precedent for such things working well in other MMOs with a high learning curve (EVE comes to mind). Though I would not exactly call WoT 'difficult to learn', it does have an issue with obscurity of information (most information is simply not provided ingame for whatever reason). A clan that will allow people to access this information would surely help a lot!

As I am somewhat active on the Newcomer forum, I'll see if I can direct new players your way.

You should be watchful of your clan's quality of 'teachers', though. Even here on the forums, easily 80% of what players write about game mechanics is either misunderstood, guesstimated based on one or two battles of anecdotal evidence, or just plain made up. Seriously, the next time I read "the matchmaker is broken because we didn't have the same number of tier 8 tanks as they did" I'm going to have an aneurysm <_<
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Lord_Demon's Photo Lord_Demon 03 May 2012

I strongly support the idea. Getting new players to learn the game enhances the game for everyone. Except maybe the noobs who refuse to learn and thus become outclassed, but who cares about them.
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WarMaster's Photo WarMaster 03 May 2012

Dude...
You spend too much time writing theories.
I suggest a few simple steps:
1. Create clan
2. Open a reqruitment topic (for trainers as field commanders and newbie players)
3. Create a logo
4. Start playing.
That's it!
The difficult thing is to find good players who are going to leave their clan and join you.
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Brraw's Photo Brraw 03 May 2012

Excellent idea !!  Count me in as an attentive student :Smile_honoring:
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostWarMaster, on 03 May 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

The difficult thing is to find good players who are going to leave their clan and join you.

Perhaps you did not finish reading my post?

Hence the need for writing this 'theory', as I know it's going to be hard to get members if they don't know my clan exists. Hence I am looking for support from forum people.

Also technically speaking I'm not really aiming at people to leave their clans to join my clan. My original concept was to get people who literally just started playing the game or who is currently not in a clan but would like to be later to join my clan and hone their skills. It's really a 'Tank Academy' per se.

P.S: My profession is law, perhaps that is why I like theories lol.
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostAlighierian, on 03 May 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

nice idea, I'm willing to help with practical training (given I'm available and not blowing up tanks in CW etc ^__^)
just send me a pm if you'd like some assistance (i can train in arties and TD's mainly, heavies a bit but meds and lights not so much)

Thank you!

Would gladly have you as a tutor! Naturally I myself alone cannot train 99 students, hence I will probably set a 'speciality standard' system, where a specific tutor specialises in something (in your case SPGs and TDs), train students interested in learning that speciality.
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostDerZivilist, on 03 May 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

There is precedent for such things working well in other MMOs with a high learning curve (EVE comes to mind). Though I would not exactly call WoT 'difficult to learn', it does have an issue with obscurity of information (most information is simply not provided ingame for whatever reason). A clan that will allow people to access this information would surely help a lot!

As I am somewhat active on the Newcomer forum, I'll see if I can direct new players your way.

You should be watchful of your clan's quality of 'teachers', though. Even here on the forums, easily 80% of what players write about game mechanics is either misunderstood, guesstimated based on one or two battles of anecdotal evidence, or just plain made up. Seriously, the next time I read "the matchmaker is broken because we didn't have the same number of tier 8 tanks as they did" I'm going to have an aneurysm <_<

The standard of teachers will be kept. I already plan to have a set standard for teachers. But have not made up my mind yet, I am currently consulting various highly ranked players about the set standard for teachers to be able to teach in the clan.
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostBrraw, on 03 May 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

Excellent idea !!  Count me in as an attentive student :Smile_honoring:

Keep your eyes on my profile, when I create the clan there will surely be an announcement thread declaring it :)
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JoonKaboon's Photo JoonKaboon 03 May 2012

I could help out with heavy tanks, im doing particularly fine with IS-3 :)  Not really into the light/medium thing (yet), I have to get back into the feeling with TDs, i stopped when i had the Jagdpz4, ruined my fun :P And SPGs are not my thing.
So actually i might learn something from this as well :D
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Schokoladenhase's Photo Schokoladenhase 03 May 2012

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Sgt_Diablo's Photo Sgt_Diablo 03 May 2012

I have had a similar idea for a long time but haven't had the initiative to start it up, so I would be happy to join your clan as an advisor/student. :Smile_great:

PS: I am a medium driver, not a specialist, but meds are indeed my main tank of interest!
Edited by El_Diabloo, 03 May 2012 - 12:11 PM.
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostJoonKaboon, on 03 May 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

I could help out with heavy tanks, im doing particularly fine with IS-3 :)  Not really into the light/medium thing (yet), I have to get back into the feeling with TDs, i stopped when i had the Jagdpz4, ruined my fun :P And SPGs are not my thing.
So actually i might learn something from this as well :D

View PostEl_Diabloo, on 03 May 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

I have had a similar idea for a long time but haven't had the initiative to start it up, so I would be happy to join your clan as an advisor/student. :Smile_great:

PS: I am a medium driver, not a specialist, but meds are indeed my main tank of interest!

The reservation list is open :D

And yes I can certainly use as much help as I can get! Thank you!
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Czert1938's Photo Czert1938 03 May 2012

View PostWarMaster, on 03 May 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Dude...
You spend too much time writing theories.
I suggest a few simple steps:
1. Create clan
2. Open a reqruitment topic (for trainers as field commanders and newbie players)
3. Create a logo
4. Start playing.
That's it!
The difficult thing is to find good players who are going to leave their clan and join you.
Since im happy in my clan (mainly because it is my mother languague), i will gladly help ding in his effort, even as nonclan member as conultant :).
Since I have no problem with writing english , but speaking (and hearing) make some troubles, I will take it as practice lessons if ding use teamspeak for coordination in his clan - academy.
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Costarring's Photo Costarring 03 May 2012

Interesting idea...

Thinking about "signing up" as teacher for Scouts, TD's and general stuff.

I can teach in English and Dutch
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Bonzo_dog's Photo Bonzo_dog 03 May 2012

Hi Ding

really like reading your posts in the forum here, you are obviously a thinker

you idea sounds good , would like to see it in action am sure it would help a lot of new players , i am willing to help although do not wish to leave my clan

consulting top players ? use xvm ? or stats ? mm good luck
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Ding760's Photo Ding760 03 May 2012

View PostBonzo_dog, on 03 May 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Hi Ding

really like reading your posts in the forum here, you are obviously a thinker

you idea sounds good , would like to see it in action am sure it would help a lot of new players , i am willing to help although do not wish to leave my clan

consulting top players ? use xvm ? or stats ? mm good luck

Thanks for the compliment.

I have not yet decided if we need teachers to leave their clan for a temporary amount of time. Main reason is if we get lots of teachers who is not in the clan, it might be difficult to co-ordinate who-teaches-what. But we'll see....it's not certain yet.
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