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I got this idea from another topic I just posted in, but here goes....

To many people on these forums and in game complain about other players.  Some rate players on win/lose ratio, some on effectively rating and others on what their do on the battlefield (lemmings, camping, suicide rushing, arty etc).  To many players think If your win/lose ratio is below 50% you must be some kind of 'noob'  and if anyone who doesn't match up too how someone wants them to play are also called 'noob'.

So my idea is to all thoses who think less than average players should quit the game and thoses that complain endlessly about all the noobs and the 'MM' should stay out of random games all together and only play company battles or/and clan matches.  That way they would be no need to call others players.

So all the so called skilled tankers can go play together, choose what tanks their want in their team, talk to each other and plan tactics.  Simple as that, so you can play with all the skilled players and not have to deal with noobs.   Is it not what their want ?...  and leave us players who want to have fun in randoms without being abused because we are capping and not killing all or driving around in lowe's or using gold ammo (anyway I don't use gold ammo myself, though I just point that out).

Or the guys that dont want learn to play the game can move only to training battles to have fun and dont fuck others... bored of lose games because Mr "i play for fun" ignore the minimal things in a multiplayer game, a game that is closer to a tactical game than a shooter like quake... to have a guy that block teammates all the time, hide in a bush and doesnt help a teammate at 20m... only appear to finish tanks but never to help before is.... apart guys that leave cap when you only can win by cap ruining the battle...

Company games apart are not a lot better,  same random factor (a little less yes) but you need a lot of time to start the battle.

So you want to tell people what they should or shouldn't do, because you don't like being told what to do yourself? Now that makes some sense.

Why don't you just ignore the chatbox, or put annoying people on ignore, or even report them? Why do you even care?

Why try to improve when you can banish all the "skilled" players... It sounds a lot like a certain age and time when all the intellectuals were killed or taken as political prisoners.
Edited by biskr3m, 03 May 2012 - 02:09 PM.

There is thin line between "having fun from playing on random" and "being total idiot with no idea how to play".
Companies take more time to get ready, ranodoms are more "instant", this is quite important nowadays.
Don't blame your Lowe. Blame players who buy it after 100 battles and bring the defeat to whole team, or just don't care about the rest. Less egoistic you should be. Also, flame is... Part of the Internet, deal with it, the barrier of that thin cable between you and the rest of the world protects you, so you can reveal your pain or frustration without consequences.
Edited by szwajg, 03 May 2012 - 11:12 AM.

well the company battles take so long, the point of this game is to game not wait for so long that why most people go random battles

I find most of these so called skilled players are nothing of the sort.

I've had wonderful instances when our artillery has been verbally abused by one or two vocal members of the team because the artillery is not shooting at the targets they designate they should. The fact that those targets are in dead zones behind rocks and the artillery is helping out in another portion of the map doesn't register with them.

Then there's those players in fast mediums that rush of and get killed almost instantly and blame the team for not supporting them even though there was no way for the team to keep up with them!

My experience of these people is that they have a certain way they want to play and if everyone else doesn't facilitate that playstyle then they are "noobs" regardless of whether the team is winning. It's simply egocentric players that should really stick to single player games until they learn to share!
Edited by Matthew, 03 May 2012 - 11:31 AM.

Yes boss, I will get out of your way boss.

By the same principle you should be banished to training battles.
Edited by PadyEos, 03 May 2012 - 11:28 AM.

Well, is not something new... yesterday for example in a battle in my Lowe a guy in a SU-100 start with the "UO we have premium noobs we lose" well, i reply to him that i have over 16.000 battles in the game, top 300 in server and all non SPG lines finished... then start with the "lets see what you do Mr pro"... well, kill 3, damage 5 (i end battle with 1.500xp and 120.000 credits, sniper medal and supporting first one flank and later middle attack to end in enemy base) and the guy that dont move in all battle from the hill where he finish a simple tank that i leave at 15hp continue as the start...

I know that fails are not a problem but at least TRY to play or at least dont be a problem for the team.... as example, is not the first time that i use my tank as wall for a teammate because i am to damage, cant survive and at least try to use my death as some usefull... others move with low tier tanks to first line, receive heavy damage and when they retreat block a teammate in a top tier to made both easy targets for arty... is not the first time that in arty i hit 2 or more tanks with a single shoot because 1 in a lower tier block others....

One thing is fail an easy shoot, shit  happends, but other very different is leave cap when you are in a cap race with your teammates call for cap.

 Squadman45, on 03 May 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

Thats a much better idea ^^

Oh wait! I forgot to -1 you!... There, now it's fixed, it looks much better now!

Almost everytime I ask someone why he plays like a zombie he answers "I play for fun" and this is all the excuse for being shit player ?

Well believe me kids all the people that actually know what they are doing while playing this game are also "playing for fun". So sorry this dumb excuse is not working. You are playing multiplayer game which has only one game mode that requires cooperation so if you are unable to learn how to play and use your brain just a little bit while player PLEASE go play some single player game or multi with deathmatch mode only so you wont ruin other players experience.

I don't have any problems with people making the wrong decisions in this game, as I make wrong decisions all the time.

I don't have any problems with people in this game who has 60% win ratio or 35% win ratio.

I do have a problem with all the noob-callers. (please write something constructive instead of this BS).
I do have a problem with people ignoring good advice, people who doesn't care at all about the team, and people who defends their actions when their actions were wrong.

If I have made a mistake I am hopefully aware of the mistake, and posting a "sry, bad driving" in chat will make people accept that I indeed made a mistake, and move on.

Please guys, have some TEAM-feeling! Do care about the 14 other tanks on your team! And be aware that your actions is part of the teams actions!
I know it is difficult to get the team feeling in randoms, but If you can get into the team thought process, I promise you, you will have a lot more fun.

I want to play agains every skill level players.
I want to play with/against better players, because then I can learn something, and I want to play with/against players worse than me, because then maybe I can learn them something.
The greates feeling in this game is, without doubt, when a player comes to you after a match and asks for you to show him how to handle a tank.

So, please enjoy your fun and do not care about the ragers and whiners, but just ask yourselves once in a while: Am I a team player? This is after all a team game.

Happy tanking!

 Gangerr, on 03 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

All those who complain about all the noobs and the MM usually are less than average players. Does that mean they should quit the game because of themselves?

So @OP you are basically saying that when/if you are playing football down in the park and you
- keep getting on the a team with a bloke who keeps picking up the ball with his hands and you keep telling him not to
- keep kicking the ball into your goal and you keep telling him not to
- keep standing in the corner and only looks at the game or birds.
which leads to your team is loosing.
Then for the 100rd time you correct him he reply "I just play for fun", "If your so good, go play somewhere else", you just tip him on his head and go play somewhere else? You don't get mad or kick him of the team?

It's not about "noob", bad or less skilled players... It's about some players "Just want to have fun" on the expence of 14 other players or they just don't want to do their best, try or learn anything...

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 El_Diabloo, on 03 May 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

Well these last 2 or 3 days I have been totally awed at the low quality of the gaming action. Was as if it was all full of totally clueless people, like total... noobs to the game.
You know, like lemming train of 10 tanks!! to island on mines map, or 12 tanks!! on hill in Redshire. Mind you, this were games with tiers 6-9, maybe a few battles with tiers 4-7.
In many those cases, well at first, at least, I politely indicated my opinions in chat and the problem that we could have doing that. In best case, I got no response and no action. In worst cases, 2 or 3 times i got the F word, go F*** yourself, shut up mr boss etc etc. So after a while, when that happens I only say "MOAR TANKS ON HILL!! NEED MOAR!!" Sadly it seems they don't even get the irony...
But do you know the funniest thing? We actually won those two battles. I was alone in a flank both times, ofc died gallantly after a while, but the other team was not much better so  we won.
I really think we need different battle modes, like deathmatch, also give more value to TCs someway...
When you get a few games like that in a row it becomes so enraging that you want to go play single player, and those people are really starting to make me hate the game.

 EickhardtSr, on 03 May 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

Now that you say that, maybe a vote to kick someone would be a good thing to have, I think Enemy Territory (and probably more FPSs) had that option, so if someone was a fool you could kick them. But then, if I remember correctly, the gaming was a bit like TCs, with the same players rotating different maps, and ppl joining and leaving the teams...

 Gangerr, on 03 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

P.S. -1 for ya!
Edited by Storm87, 03 May 2012 - 12:04 PM.

 Alter8, on 03 May 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

Well, now this comes into play: "I do have a problem with people ignoring good advice"
I'm not claiming to be Mr. calm myself, as I can let of "a little" steam when I get teamkilled by an arty while sidehugging a jgdtiger, and I agree that most people you try to give advice ignore you, but please don't give up the hope of mankind, maybe the comments will sink in eventually

Funniest thing, a bad tactic sometimes turns out to win you the game, and this can prove to be a problem.
As I've seen a replay of a player camping the entire game, ending up with 15 kills! I guess he won't stop camping anytime soon.