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What equipment do you use on the IS-4?

  1. Enhanced Gun Laying Driver (313 votes [11.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.67%

  2. Vertical Stabilizer Mk 2 (577 votes [21.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.51%

  3. Coated Optics (43 votes [1.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.60%

  4. Fill Tanks with CO2 (4 votes [0.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.15%

  5. Large Caliber Tank Gun Rammer (820 votes [30.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.57%

  6. "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 (18 votes [0.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.67%

  7. Improved Ventilation Class 3 (666 votes [24.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.83%

  8. Large Spall Liner (104 votes [3.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.88%

  9. Enhanced Torsion Bars 5+t Class (7 votes [0.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.26%

  10. Cyclone Filter (5 votes [0.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.19%

  11. Toolbox (52 votes [1.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.94%

  12. Binocular Teslescope (25 votes [0.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.93%

  13. Camouflage Net (35 votes [1.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.30%

  14. Nothing (13 votes [0.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.48%

What Consumables do you use on the IS-4?

  1. Extra Combat Rations (26 votes [0.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.97%

  2. Automatic Fire Extinguishers (162 votes [6.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.02%

  3. Large First Aid Kit (69 votes [2.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.56%

  4. Large Repair Kit (78 votes [2.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.90%

  5. Removed Speed Governor (39 votes [1.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.45%

  6. Lend-Lease Oil (32 votes [1.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.19%

  7. Small First Aid Kit (814 votes [30.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.23%

  8. Small Repair Kit (823 votes [30.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.56%

  9. Manual Fire Extinguishers (650 votes [24.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.14%

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Ultramarinus #81 Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

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I still am not getting all the praise gun is getting. It has PITIFUL damage. I see 350 oftentimes. Feels like I'm playing my KT at times. It used to have a punch with S-70, IS-7 still does. Sure it aims fast now but with no autoloader, you get damaged more in a slug exchange. I also don't get all the praise +10 penetration is getting, still bounces vs the same spots with S-70. I had a bounce vs a KV-3 just an hour ago. You still need to aim precise but get less damage every time you show yourself while taking the same damage since front armor is penetrated by any T8+ or T7+ TD.

Edited by Ultramarinus, 09 May 2012 - 05:14 PM.


rodier #82 Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

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so how u play with this piece of crap with 175mm gun ? :)

Charcharo #83 Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:02 PM

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IS-4 replay with me abusing Backward Sidescraper for as long as possible.
http://mwreplays.com/replayimg/d10bbc9fd8915be90fa22e99b18572bc.png

beastlysun #84 Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

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View PostUltramarinus, on 09 May 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

I still am not getting all the praise gun is getting. It has PITIFUL damage. I see 350 oftentimes. Feels like I'm playing my KT at times. It used to have a punch with S-70, IS-7 still does. Sure it aims fast now but with no autoloader, you get damaged more in a slug exchange. I also don't get all the praise +10 penetration is getting, still bounces vs the same spots with S-70. I had a bounce vs a KV-3 just an hour ago. You still need to aim precise but get less damage every time you show yourself while taking the same damage since front armor is penetrated by any T8+ or T7+ TD.

still more alpha than M58 120mm, IS4 is like minimaus tier X and very good at peek a boo cause it can eat shells with side (3x no damage from 5 shots)

Ultramarinus #85 Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:49 PM

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Never said that gun is any good. Not a good reference point. Can't even reliably one shoot a GW Panther anymore. It's no minimaus, it's the only tier 10 to have upper front hull reliably penetrated by any tier9+ gun. Not even driver's hatch. I just lost 2000HP in 10 secs and my upper front looked like swiss cheese even though it was angled. No point in shooting sides when front is literally butter.

Gift premium ends in 15 mins, I'll wait several months till it finally gets buffed. No point in continuing the game with a money sink.

TomTuete #86 Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

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hm. maybe you i can get used to this version of the is-4.

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Injector_X #87 Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:47 AM

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IS-4 is OK tank that requires some skill to play with in my opinion, but its certainly is not the best or the worst. Even its gun is not the best in my opinion, i also like good accuracy, penetration and RoF like on the T110E5 with good front armor & mobility or like with IS-7 good alpha and penetration with very good front armor & speed. Since good alpha is more important when you got a cover where behind to reload. Someone else might like the IS-4 more than other tier 10 tanks, but that is his opinion. I still prefer my good old IS-7. (both in randoms and CW)

RudeBwoyUK #88 Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:39 AM

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i used to like IS-4 alot more pre-patch. I think it was mostly because of the S-70 (you don t realise what you have until it's gone). The front armour seems worse than before. Not sure, but I think it is less sloped now by a couple degree's. Anyone confirm that?

Anyways seems like going to have to change play style a little bit to make most of this tank. Or just play IS-7 more.

vODkjha #89 Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:46 AM

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View Postrodier, on 09 May 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

so how u play with this piece of crap with 175mm gun ? :)

you don't, as said before grind it on the IS-8.

Hornet331 #90 Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:59 AM

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My is4 is cursed right now... in all my games not even one with more then 40% skill based win chance, not to mention the shear armada of IS4s with D25t... I am still surprised i pulled of a 47% winrate... got let it rest till all the "noobs" run out of credits or sell it because it "sucks".

Hope it gets better in a week or so... right now t10 battles are horrible...

But so far i really like the IS4, gun is very good as in the test, and it even bounces more now, thanks to less gold and the geometry fix.

xxlguru #91 Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:30 PM

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More I play IS-4 more I like it. I just have had to start thinking about it as completely different tank with IS-4 looks. And it works. Some things are kinda similar like way you angle or not or how much but that is about it. Just dinged 6 times with My IS-7 on IS-4 at 400 meters. Every shot was placed good and on drivers hatch and shoulder under fair to good angle. Top front plate was bit angled and in horizontal plane shoulder plate was almost at 90 degree, so almost only vertical angle protected him. So armor works good. I have changed equipment and skills on crew and now IS-4 feels better. I like it. Gun is good only I miss some punch I got use to with S70. With S70 you have seen 600 hp shots and here you do not see much of 500 even.

Edited by xxlguru, 10 May 2012 - 12:35 PM.


necrodeath #92 Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:45 PM

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I don't really like the new gun, havent noticed any better penetration with it since i dont spam (or use at all) gold ammo and its only a few secs faster reload. It's better against a med or meds now thought, side scraper is about the same as it was before and the hp pool is the only thing u can count on. I don't really see a point using this thing over the other tier 10 tanks

Edited by necrodeath, 10 May 2012 - 12:46 PM.


xxlguru #93 Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:39 PM

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Anyone noticed it is bigger credit eater then IS-7?

Killed two, have had 8 hits one miss. Got killed but we won. After repair and resupply = 7k credits less then before?

BTW I have said penetration boost is not that great. It will not let you penetrate many things that S70 could not. Some easier E100 turret shots and when shooting on some smaller tanks you do not have to think about their strong places, but that is about it. Gold = HEAT = ding under bad angle. Who cares about 400 mm if it has 0 normalization and opponent is angled/protected good?

BTW I never play with Gold ammo(on beginning I have tried it and that was about it) but this time with this promotion of gold ammo I took some to test new and old guns in new patch. Well bad shot is bad shot. Specially with guns that have enough penetration gold ammo has no sense for me. Best gold ammo results I have seen is with E75 with 128mm KwK. Even then due poor gun accuracy it is only for close up and personal work and only for special targets that you can not penetrate easy. I take like 3 to 5 gold shells and almost never shoot them. If I suck with AP I will suck with gold as well so why should I get it?

New gun + Gun Rammer + Vertical Stabilizer + Ventilation + skills = pretty good gun performance. Only you need to get in rhythm with it. It is more accurate then S70 and you notice it on long distances, although S70 is good enough for any work but longest distances.

I just do not like credit generation but now I will look at it more and see was that only due bad game.
Otherwise I like IS-4.

Edited by xxlguru, 10 May 2012 - 01:39 PM.


Perji #94 Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:02 PM

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View PostTomTuete, on 09 May 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

hm. maybe you i can get used to this version of the is-4.

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Yeah yeah we all had this crap with the premium ON.
Get it without premium, then we'll talk.

IS-4
It has a hole.
It has mediocre firepower, no frontal armor (you know, the thing you point at the enemy) and rather mediocre maneuvrability.
Optics, rammer, GLD and the 3 cheap consumables extinguishers, first aid and repairs. Also, 2 secondary skills on the crew and the third at 76%.

Injector_X #95 Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

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View Postxxlguru, on 10 May 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

More I play IS-4 more I like it. I just have had to start thinking about it as completely different tank with IS-4 looks. And it works. Some things are kinda similar like way you angle or not or how much but that is about it. Just dinged 6 times with My IS-7 on IS-4 at 400 meters. Every shot was placed good and on drivers hatch and shoulder under fair to good angle. Top front plate was bit angled and in horizontal plane shoulder plate was almost at 90 degree, so almost only vertical angle protected him. So armor works good. I have changed equipment and skills on crew and now IS-4 feels better. I like it. Gun is good only I miss some punch I got use to with S70. With S70 you have seen 600 hp shots and here you do not see much of 500 even.

This is a good example where not to shoot the IS-4, if its angled, you do not shoot its drivers hatch since it has 200+mm +plus the angle bonus that it gets, IS-4 is a long range damage support tank. You wont ever penetrate it like that, if the IS-4 is angled too much you simply shoot it at the "cheeks", they are 160mm but when IS-4 is angled too much (and i see it very often) you shoot there because with the slope there is least armor. If the IS-4 is smart and angles only so much that you wont be able to shoot his "cheeks" you shoot his lower plate or lower armor area. Really for me, IS-4 is a pushover with my IS-7. Also its good idea to get closer to the IS-4 so you can shoot more accurately and you gain more penetration. (since your penetration drops at 400m by at least by 10%, correct me if i am wrong)

I want to add this, people have been used to shoot IS-4 in the drivers hatch and now that its very well armored spot (if not best in whole front) you have to let go of old habits, do not shoot IS-4 anymore in the drivers hatch, unless you are at close distance and you have 201+ penetration gun and the IS-4 is not angled. Shoot the lower plate or even shoot the turret, the thing on top of its gun (the flap that covers it, is penetrable by 198 penetration guns) and dont exchange shots with it at 400m, unless you are T110E5. (i am talking always with AP ammo only in mind)

Really in my opinion IS-7 is a powerhouse of speed, damage good front armor and decent side armor. I certainly enjoy playing it more than the  new IS-4 and i have no trouble against any enemy tanks with it. (Its not invincible, but it just feels universal for almost any given situation)

Moshe_Dayan #96 Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:53 PM

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I'm having a really hard time with IS4 with my Maus. (Maus have only 246 penetration, the lowest of tier X).
And because it's gun is mounted so far above ground, it cannot shoot at the lower hull of IS4(angle becomes too steep).

Even when the IS4 is facing me directly, I sometimes fail to penetrate his drivers hatch if I get an unlucky penetration roll.
If IS4 is angled 20-30 degrees, it seems like have about 50% chance to penetrate both drivers hatch and the side-cheeks.
But IS4 penetrate my lower hull every time, also when angled.

Is there something I'm missing here?

TomTuete #97 Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:29 PM

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just got ace tanker. i kinda like it.

http://www.mediafire...b16dahab44bzrb1

Edited by TomTuete, 10 May 2012 - 07:45 PM.


Humble_Warrior #98 Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:15 AM

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its a pretty good tank at tier 10, the gun is particularly nice, i like it better than the S70. Though i can't seem to get the hang of the IS-7 :rolleyes::o , as usual some people will have to take time to learn, as i've killed plenty shooting them in the old weakspots :D

in Clan wars, in my clan at least we have used it successfully. in one of our tactics, due to a shortage of E100's we had 3 IS-4's and an E100 working together, it worked rather well when combined with the ever reliable IS-7's :Smile-izmena:

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_AceOfSpades_ #99 Posted 11 May 2012 - 10:39 AM

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The only reason why IS-4 feels good is because of the underpowered german tier 10 tanks, otherwise its quite underpar compared to IS-7 and T110E5.

xxlguru #100 Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:36 PM

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Way I see it IS-4 now is support tank, medium distance sniper, second line Reaper, long distance/medium distance defender and occasional brawler (low tier nightmare?). Played as that it is a great tank. Sure people who have already T110E5 might not need it. If you play it as old IS-4 you will miss so much of it's potential. It can brawl but it is waste of his talents. Lower Alpha (effective Alpha not Alpha on paper) makes it less ideal for Peak-a-boo in close distance. On other hand Peak-a-boo on medium distances is great chance to use it's potentials. Specially if you have two targets. You have to play it way his gun like it. If you rush gun to much it will not serve you that well. Yesterday on China map I have wasted another IS-4. Once he got insecure in his performance/gun he missed all and I have ripped his heart out. I get snipers medals with it and it is kinda fairing well against other tanks. It ain't best Tier X at this point but it is not worse, not by far. Might be even one of the best balanced tanks in Tier X. I like my IS-7 more but new IS-4 is warming up my heart to.
I think T110E5 is also better but not by that much, nor is IS-7 better by much. I simply love S70. Maus is worse a bit and E100 is a lot worse IMO. AMX50B is something else so no challenge there.
So I am looking forward to play it more. TFP Weak spot? Well do not get hit :P




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