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Ability to exclude 2-3 maps from Matchmaking

QuakeFX's Photo QuakeFX 07 May 2012

I enjoy WoT most of the time. I've unlocked tanks I like to play with and I often have a great time with the game. However, there is one major funbreaker and that's a certain selection of extremely annoying maps. Everytime I hit the Battle-button and Malinovka shows up, my interest in the game is completely drained for the moment. I drive 10m forward to the fences or buildings cause I can't be bothered driving around the world and I alt-tab and read the internet, occasionally going back in to see if anything has happened. It basically comes down to who gives up first out of boredom and impatience and makes a suicide run straight to the other side where you can be hit but can't see shit, and you see your teammates fall one by one for this.

As much as a dick I am to my team I know I'm not the only one. People with no interest in a map often don't play serious, rush to death and aren't of any use to their team and neither people who do enjoy those maps or the MM has any benefit from it. Province for example is also more a test of your patience than of tactics cause it ends up with both teams shooting side to side while the occasional player gets a breakdown, rushes down and gets killed till all are gone (because you're at an extreme disadvantage going up the other side).

Apart from whether these maps are well designed or not, and whether you hate or love Komarin or any other map or if experienced players say you're using the wrong tactics. If you don't like it and neither taste any teamspirit, it's just a pain over and over again. I don't ask for maps to be redone or removed, I would only like the ability to check a maximum of 2 or 3 maps that the MM won't put you in or would atleast try to avoid so players don't have to go through their most disliked maps.

A bit like the CoH ranked automatch for example:
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Edited by QuakeFX, 07 May 2012 - 02:27 PM.
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RygaCommand's Photo RygaCommand 07 May 2012

YEAH no Province only any more :rolleyes:
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Injector_X's Photo Injector_X 07 May 2012

Not a bad idea. Max 2-3 maps could be checked away and with a warning that you could spend more time waiting to enter a battle. Though i believe that in maps like Malinovka this could result simply in artyfest. So it would rather lower your chances of getting into those few maps that you "check away" like you said.

There could be another solution too, that WoT would record every last 5 or more maps you played in and would try to avoid putting you in those maps. After the certain cycle of maps would have gone like the 5 i mentioned, (could be less or could be more) then the those maps would become so-called "priority maps" again and avoid the previous maps.  it would break the rule only if there were no other maps available for battle at that time.

I very much agree that getting 3-5 times in a row into a map like Malinovka with a slow heavy tank is very very annoying or getting always Himmelsdorf when you play artillery.
Yeah province was removed from top tier battles.
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XTommy's Photo XTommy 07 May 2012

+1
I think this has been already discussed, but its still needed. Even posibility to exclude one map would be great (Province). For me its not fight against the enemy anymore, its just fight with myself. Every time I get this map I want to exit battle and play something esle (i never did it yet, but it has been hard)
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Indy_ah's Photo Indy_ah 07 May 2012

When i see malinovka or province i could vomit.... i hate these dammit camper maps, always the same bull**** you can wait yourself to death or run for hill and get shot by arty or by some heavys stand downside(malinovka) or upside(province) the hill. Doesnt make fun to play these maps <_< . I would like it to vote 2-3 maps i dont like and thes maps i get 50% less than other maps for example :Smile_great:

Indy :Smile_honoring:
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Storm87's Photo Storm87 07 May 2012

If i'm not mistaken, devs are currently working on such option. It will be possible to block one map with regular account, and 2 (or 3) with premium.
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hellhound666's Photo hellhound666 07 May 2012

well, i dont think that any map should/could be excluded from list (or not at least without penalty). i'll tend think that i will meat enemy where they are and if that happens to be province or kampinovka - so be it.
but considering whining community (WoT - Whiners on Tanks) maybe its still in place, lets say - one can exclude few maps and each excluded map reduces their income (credits and experience) by 5-10% from every battle.
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QuakeFX's Photo QuakeFX 07 May 2012

View Posthellhound666, on 07 May 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

well, i dont think that any map should/could be excluded from list (or not at least without penalty). i'll tend think that i will meat enemy where they are and if that happens to be province or kampinovka - so be it.
but considering whining community (WoT - Whiners on Tanks) maybe its still in place, lets say - one can exclude few maps and each excluded map reduces their income (credits and experience) by 5-10% from every battle.
Well it's just a game that's meant to be fun not a real war, whether you want to challenge yourself to adapt to every map or not. Of course things are the way they are and people shouldn't expect to overhaul a game and change complete mechanics by crying on the forums but one can come up with an idea or slight adjustment that could boost the overall fun factor and then there are these forums to discuss such things and the developers might get some useful feedback from them. If you can't handle that then maybe you shouldn't read them. Besides if you want to 'meet the enemy where they are' then don't exclude any maps and everyone will be pleased I guess..

I understand that some maps are more preferable for some types of vehicles, but there should always be enough types of vehicles for any given map and if it doesn't attract any players or if it affects the balance too much the map is just poorly designed imo. And it might not necessarily need to completely exclude them, just make the chances really low.
Edited by QuakeFX, 07 May 2012 - 07:35 PM.
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Channel911's Photo Channel911 07 May 2012

Guys, really, those maps are all about teamwork. If you manage to truly speak (and listen) to team mates and organize a coherent attack plan, Magic! No more camping in campinovka. Like when i (in a VK2801) plus four corageous drivers of Pz3/4 rushed the other side at full speed, bolted past trenches and distracted the enemy for so long an E75 managed to get to the other side before the last one of us died. 5 mins and game won wiith 15-6 kill cont (an arty got excited and rammed an heavy, but that's history). Same with province: especially at very low (5 or less) or very high (8 or more) tier, the top tank IF fully supported can impose his playstyle on the whole enemy team... It's all about convincing your teammates to play like a team and not like 15 people randomly playing on the same scrap of space with no coordination whatsoever. It's the playing community that needs improvement, not the maps...
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Superform's Photo Superform 09 May 2012

i agree!

when I play my 261 and constantly get ensk with 10-12 arti in the game or one of the new crap mountain maps where arti cant shoot anything... it would be good to not have to play these maps over and over
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QuakeFX's Photo QuakeFX 09 May 2012

Channel911 that might work in clan games, and for every 1 out of 20-30 games on such maps I actually got a response in the chat from teammates who were actually willing to teamplay and then they were indeed kinda manageable, but that's also the main problem.

And due to the 5x bonus and 24-hour premium I've been playing a lot of WoT and Malinovka shows up waaaaaaaaaay more than any other map, it shows up about 20% of the time which is just insane.
Edited by QuakeFX, 09 May 2012 - 09:44 PM.
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Channel911's Photo Channel911 19 May 2012

And why that should be limited to clanplay? Is that non-clanned teams lost their brains on the way? xD

Seriously, if only the players would learn to read the chat and answer people, that would make the game much better.
Just yesterday in a Tiger with the support of a Type59 we stormed Malinovka (enemy was on housed side) ending the game 15 to 2 in about 7 mins, fun as hell.
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Redbush's Photo Redbush 20 May 2012

I do hope they either redesign or remove malinovka and komarin.
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Uncle_Flasher's Photo Uncle_Flasher 21 May 2012

View PostChannel911, on 19 May 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

And why that should be limited to clanplay? Is that non-clanned teams lost their brains on the way? xD

Seriously, if only the players would learn to read the chat and answer people, that would make the game much better.
Just yesterday in a Tiger with the support of a Type59 we stormed Malinovka (enemy was on housed side) ending the game 15 to 2 in about 7 mins, fun as hell.


In principle i agree. IF people worked togther a concerted rush can win any map.

You have 2 problems with this though.

1) This game is european wide. Just type up "Hi from UK" at the start of a map and see how many different countries are actually in there.  Chances are 2/3 of your team cant understand what you are suggesting.

2) Some of the rest forget they are in an armoured fighting vehicle and wont take a hit. They Refuse to move from behind cover, and if they do take a hit rather than using the enemy reload time to get in there and do some damage, will go deeper in to their hole.


If you are lucky, you may get the odd player to work with you, and VERY rarely you get 4 or 5 that get the idea and these games are simply the BEST.


If you like these wonderfull gaming gold moments, join a clan and play company battles. They are fantastic, and show how this game can be when used as intendid.
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Cravone's Photo Cravone 25 May 2012

I definitely like this idea. Would be great if you could change those maps at different times. For example, I don't want ruinberg in an arty, but id love komarin. In my heavy, I enjoy ruinberg, and hate komarin. On both I hate Province. I would love the ability to have exclusion from 2 or 3 maps I hate, and coincidently, I get nonstop.
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Centrala's Photo Centrala 25 May 2012

I like this idea too. Sometimes i get maps i dont like to play at all and even before the match starts i can't wait for game to finish so i can go and try my luck with some other map.
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NeddySeagoon's Photo NeddySeagoon 28 May 2012

This idea has been suggested so many times. However, it needs to happen. You just know that you will have to pay some gold for it though, which is pretty ridiculous; "Hey players, here's some maps that you hate, we will force you to play them until you pay us gold."
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japtank's Photo japtank 29 May 2012

Make it happen.

Himmelsdorf never again with arty, thanx.
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