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Nectaria #21 Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

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View Post2dme, on 13 May 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

I did say, "for the most part".

Only 1 working Tiger is a problem yes, which is why mockups should be used which are no wehere near as expensive to use as actual historical vehicles. Especially when transportation costs (shipping a Tiger to Spain for Patton would be a hell of a lot of money), maintenance costs, running costs etc etc are taken into account.

True, but I honestly don't think in that period of war movies (approx 15-25y after WWII) that film directors cared about historical correctness, Battle of the Bulge clearly wants to show that the Germans got defeated by the Spanish sun, a few burning fuel drums and Chaffee's. So yeah....

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View PostNectaria, on 13 May 2012 - 10:18 AM, said:

True, but I honestly don't think in that period of war movies (approx 15-25y after WWII) that film directors cared about historical correctness, Battle of the Bulge clearly wants to show that the Germans got defeated by the Spanish sun, a few burning fuel drums and Chaffee's. So yeah....

yeah i think you're right there. Mind you, historical accuracy doesn't often play a large part in directors minds. All in the name of entertainment i guess. and beating the Germans is pretty damn entertaining

JohnTravolta #23 Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:46 AM

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Tiger I: http://englishrussia...age/#more-92242
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There are many mock-up tanks used for reenactment scenes.
Tiger I on T-55 chassis
http://www.militaryf...ky/DSC_1483.jpg
Panther
http://www.militaryf...a2/DSC_6138.jpg
PzIV
http://img694.images...46/19058135.jpg
KV-1
http://i126.photobuc...M2/IM000374.jpg
ISU-152 on T-55 chassis
http://i126.photobuc...M2/IM000375.jpg
I also remember seeing KV-2 on IS-3 chassis (can't find the picture atm)...


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Fumle #24 Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:54 AM

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i still think the oddest thing about Saving Private Ryan is that the sniper says there are 2 Panthers (and 2 Yiger+more) incoming, but i only see the Tigers and some Marders... i could be wrong though...

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Ziddix #25 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

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People should just cgi tanks =D

Listy #26 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

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The two* Tiger I tanks from SPR were T-34's. We've got one stored at a local museum. Look at the wheels and tracks and the location of the turret, its a bit too far forward.

I still think one of hte better vismods was the Leo 1 A3 in a Bridge to far.
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

*One was best copy, the other was used whenever they wanted to blow something up.

OldIronsides #27 Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:43 PM

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View PostVokker, on 13 May 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Could the Germans have captured a T110E5?


Getting some information about the T110E5 and the source of that picture could have answered you your question.

MrE158 #28 Posted 13 May 2012 - 02:20 PM

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I don't think it's unreasonable for film makers to do this kind of thing.  They're not representing captured tanks, they're just "tanks".  The costs of transporting and operating things as huge, heavy, rare and awkward as actual WWII tanks is insane, and the vast majority of the movie-going public won't notice, or care.

Now, if you were to do a movie purely about armoured combat, you should make the extra effort, but if the tank is just something that shows up for a scene, or is sitting in the background or something, then make do.

Vonryan #29 Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

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I was watching "The big red 1" recently and laughed at the german tanks that were clearly shermans.

Don't watch that film btw the acting is proper rubbish.

ShrewdOne #30 Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:27 AM

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btw they could have used the last working king tiger since its in france (saumur museum )and the movie was in spain... this is not a long trip

Stimpeltje #31 Posted 14 May 2012 - 06:08 AM

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@OP

Is that picture from a movie? If so, which one?

Edited by Stimpeltje, 14 May 2012 - 06:08 AM.


Nectaria #32 Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:08 AM

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View PostFumle, on 13 May 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

i still think the oddest thing about Saving Private Ryan is that the sniper says there are 2 Panthers (and 2 Yiger+more) incoming, but i only see the Tigers and some Marders... i could be wrong though...

/Fumle


He actually means to say "panzers" with is the common name for german tanks. The US Army didn't use much names for tanks except the Tiger (but that could be a Tiger or a King Tiger, afaik they didn't give it 2 seperate names). Even their M10 was not called Wolverine but most of the time just TD.

SgVolf #33 Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:39 AM

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As far as I remember in the film Kelly's heroes the Tiger tanks actually look like the real Tiger I tank. And the Sherman is a Sheman definatelly.




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