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Poll: SU-85 vs KV-2 - Best money maker (93 members have cast votes)

SU-85 vs KV-2

  1. SU-85 (57 votes [61.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.29%

  2. KV-2 (36 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

Worth keeping the KV-2 if the SU-85 is a better money maker?

  1. Yes. (21 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

  2. No. (15 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

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Megas_Alexandros #1 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:05 PM

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What in your opinion is the best money maker?
KV-2 with derp gun or SU-85 with 107mm gun?
KV-2 can deal more damage, but if destroyed, you can lose money
SU-85 does less damage, but you never lose money.
What do you think?
Is it worth keeping the KV-2?
Thanks!

klesk #2 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

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It depends on the skill of the player.

Players with low skill will have better use of Su-85 becouse repair costs are low and they can't lose money on the match (except if they miss 90% of the time).

Players with better skill will make more dmg with KV-2, they will receive more money and that will offset higer repair costs and possibility of - income in match and give better money/time.

With higer skill you can even make more money in tier 7 then tier 5... higer repair costs but even higer earning per match.

Sean473 #3 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:26 PM

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I've nver lost money with the KV-2 yet. You just need 1 derp hit to make a profit.

Latexi #4 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

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Derp around with KV-2
Shoot Panther II on the side
1000 damage
????
Profit

Fum #5 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

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The SU-85 has a higher minimum profit. The KV-2 has a higher maximum profit. If you can play the KV-2 well, it gets you more. If you play average, the SU-85 will probably bring you a better average income despite defeats.

Steffenximus #6 Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:52 PM

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I played with KV-2, had 1vs1 with IS-8, I did over 1k dmg and lost the game. 11k, 9k spent on repair and ammo, only 2k income. PATHETIC !!!

KV was a very good money maker, but KV-2 is pathetic. Not only repair cost 3 times more, it's a T6 heavy, these ones earn much less than T5 heavys.

Buffzzz #7 Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:24 PM

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View PostSteffenximus, on 13 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

I played with KV-2, had 1vs1 with IS-8, I did over 1k dmg and lost the game. 11k, 9k spent on repair and ammo, only 2k income. PATHETIC !!!

KV was a very good money maker, but KV-2 is pathetic. Not only repair cost 3 times more, it's a T6 heavy, these ones earn much less than T5 heavys.

same here. In the olde days it doesnt matter how you perform, entering a battle brings automatically cash. Nowadays even with a win you earn seldom more then 5k+

Ozymandias #8 Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:29 PM

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Based on having played both before and after the 7.3 patch, here's what I think. Bear in mind it's a personal opinion and that I'm not a prem account holder.

The KV-2 fluctuates wildly in terms of profit margin. In one battle you might happen to derp the sides of a higher tier for your full damage and earn tons of cash, in another you might die without landing a single shot and come close to actually losing money. Being moved to tier 6 is a mixed blessing. On the one hand it means more chances for you to derp high tiers for more money, on the other hand the KV-2 is imho not really a tier 6 vehicle since the only thing it can do that the T-150 cannot is mount the derpgun. In terms of armour, mobility etc it's way worse than the same tier T-150. So basically what I've found is, if you get into a relatively decent urban battle (where distances are low and the derpgun is more efficient), you can make good profit with the KV-2. If on the other hand you play in a battle where long range engagements are more common (Campinovka, Steppes etc) you're pretty much screwed profitwise.

The SU-85 used to be my main moneymaker because of the overpowered gun for it's tier. It's very rare that you'll face something you can't hurt. The gun's big alpha damage means good profit. My feeling is however that the SU-85's money making ability has been decidedly gimped since the 7.2 patch. Now I don't play it half as often as I used to. I'm pretty decent with it but it's rare that I'll make a lot of money in a battle; around 12k is an average, 15k on a quite good fight. However, as other people have said, it's guaranteed to make a profit even in a terrible battle. Plus to be honest, it's far easier to fail with the derp KV-2 than the SU-85. The latter is pretty much fail proof.

TLDR: If I had to choose between the 2 I'd go for the SU-85 because we go a long way back together :) . However (and sorry for deviating from the OP's post) if you're in the market for a good moneymaker, neither the KV-2 nor the SU-85 are the best options out there. My suggestions would be to look either to the KV-1 (yes it can be effective even with the 85mm gun and it makes considerably more money than the SU-85 or the KV-2 because of low shell cost) or to my personal favorite, the T49. If you can get used to it's rather unique playstyle, the T49 makes EASILY much more than most tanks out there. Before the military parade special I wanted to have enough money to get the Jagdpanther with the discount and I had only about 100k. With the T49 I got enough cash to get that Jagdpanther and retrain the crew in less than 40 battles. Without premium. I couldn't have done that with either the KV-2 or the SU-85.

haji30 #9 Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:39 PM

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KV-2 with derp i shoot type 59 1228 dmg and have only 1330 :D
I love this tank

NoHeal4u #10 Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:41 PM

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Get them both,more fun.

klesk #11 Posted 13 May 2012 - 03:26 PM

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View PostLatexi, on 13 May 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Derp around with KV-2
Shoot Panther II on the side
1000 damage
????
Profit

+ one pissed off panther player :D