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del501767825 #41 Posted 01 June 2012 - 01:24 PM

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like i have said...

i have quite few upgraded tanks...

and KV-13 is for me among better tanks...

not to say, now i drive T20 more, and is better than KV-13, is more medium with better gun that KV-13, and fact is, when i am top dog with T20, vs enemy IS or TIGER, most of times i win. ( 66% to be exact )

and funy is, T20 have no armor, unlike KV-13 which is on pair with IS...

medium in good hands will bring win easier to team than heavy tank... after tier 8 things are different, but in tier 7 medium have more chances for a win than heavy.
And all global stats shows that with medium win ratio supremacy...

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View Postlt_Ro_Laren, on 01 June 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Who told you that medium tanks mast defeat heavy one to one? KV13 is tank for distraction and team victories. It could be used solo, some times I even urge to attack IS1/2 head to head, or to stay still front barrel of some tier 9 tank in order to help team to gain advantage. I get destroyed very frequently, but team wins. Usually I get at least 2 kills. First job is to protect arty. KV 13 is great anti scout. After that you could go flank some distracted heavy and do some damage (tank has excellent DPM), or to distract high tier enemy heavy until you teammates finish it. KV 13 has great agility and can chose firing positions with easy. It can do little help, but anti scout ability and this little help made in right place and in right time actually make win of your team. So KV 13 is much better team tank than yours fully upgraded IS.

Well u quoted me whereas u didnt let me time to delete this post. U are right and this is something i didnt understand when i started with the KV-13. This tank just doesn't fit to my playstyle and  i still think the KV-13 needs a better gun to be a good tank.

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del501767825 #43 Posted 01 June 2012 - 10:04 PM

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KV-13 with better gun = IS on steroids = OP tank... 2 OP...

only thing KV-13 needs is less tier 9/10 matches.

Kuad #44 Posted 02 June 2012 - 12:36 PM

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Have to agree there. The gun is its weakest point, but if you put the D10T on it not only would it be ridiculously overpowered but it would make the T-43 entirely useless. And possibly even the IS.

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if the KV-13 had a more powerful gun ,it would be definately OP imho. its my favorite tank so far and its still gonna be even when i get better tanks.it is mobile, it is fast, reverse top speed 21 km/h, fast accelerating from 0-25 km/h, after that,(25-60km/h) it doesnt accelerate that fast, but still you can climb up a hill in less time than other tanks.turret traverse and hull traverse are also very good . what i ve found really useful is that the tank is fairly small in size ,especially the front sector LOS  gives your opponent a small surface to aim at. you can take cover behind a wreck  very effectively.her armor is also great for a tier 7 med  ,the sloped front upper hull ,gives you a good chance to bounce some shots.i even had a non penetrating hit from a Tiger 1 with the long 88mm during last battle at close range-though the guy was not completely at my 12 o clock. top gun has very good rate of fire and its very accurate.i guess its one of the most accurate soviet guns.about the damage you can cause here are some records i kept: penetrating shot at Ferdinand "turret" sides -12% hp, T34 hull sides :-11% hp ,AMX M4 45: -20% hp front lower hull. IS-3 hull sides : ~max -22 % hp from 2 hits .use KV-13 s agility and place yourself on the flanks of a big boy and you can damage them for sure.of course  with top gun i couldnt penetrate front hull of some tanks like the IS-3, VK4502  and M103 ,in cases where i couldnt approach their sides, ok.BUT if  you rush for arty , kill the scouts,support your teammmates sides, move all the time ,this beauty can be a fun tank to play with.right now i got Rammer, Enhanced Gun laying Drive and coated optics on her, i hope she ll start perform better in the hands of her noob owner lol

TStick #46 Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

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KV-13 is a fine tank, the one thing that annoys me about it is that it is detracked so easily, wich totally ruins it's forte: mobility. Oh, and a bit more horsepower for acceleration would be nice. Other than that, it's fine.

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View PostTStick, on 02 June 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

KV-13 is a fine tank, the one thing that annoys me about it is that it is detracked so easily, wich totally ruins it's forte: mobility. Oh, and a bit more horsepower for acceleration would be nice. Other than that, it's fine.
yes very true TStick , it really gets detracked too easily, 1 weak spot is this.i havent tried to remove governor from engine yet, i ll try now just for the fun of it ,hope it doesnt affect only top speed but acceleration as well ..lets see if engine gets damaged too easily with this

ATLeow #48 Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:13 AM

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Bear in mind those detrackings often completely absorb hundreds of hp worth of hits. If you have 100% repairs you can be off again before the furious E-75/JTiger/M103/Ob.704/whatever can reload and fire again, leaving you with little or no damage.

It really annoys other drivers. :)

I'm not even a good KV-13 driver - my stats are seriously meh - but it is just an awesome tank. The KV-13 is one of the most versatile tanks in-game. Got a problem? Go round the sides! Scout for your arty! Hide behind a rock and snipe from 500 metres! Very few tanks possess that kind of tactical adaptability. Nothing can stop a good KV-13 driver; all he needs to do is run off and try something else. Try doing that in a T-43.

Quite possibly the best tier 7 of all time.

HubertGruber #49 Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:29 AM

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I hate it...

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View Posts00ulja, on 18 May 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:


I won't tell much arguments but plz avoid this tank.


No, you avoid this tank. Avoid me when I'm playing it.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=QQR4dshscsk

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View Posts00ulja, on 19 May 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

I think that summarize what i think. And that's enough to say KV-13 is a bad tank. You can be fast, well armored but if u don't pen and u don't do enough dmg then you're useless.
Have you ever played PzIII, PzIII/IV? They're kinda like KV-13, they trade gun for speed and armor(pz3 mostly, Pz3/4 has decent gun on it's tier, that's why armor gives less protection on battles it's fighting on).
And guess what. Players who don't want to adapt are whining how much they suck, and the ones who knows how to use they strong points are saying L2P. Weird isn't it?

View PostPasschendaele, on 20 May 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Sure, yesterday i got behind a VK4502P with my T-43 (which has 175mm not 144mm). Let's say it was afk. I pointed his rear with 90° angle and shot 5-6 times in different points ALL bounced...
You are doing it wrong. IMO. VK4502PA&B/Tigers2/ has weaker(i mean not so much sloped) sides than rear. I've learned that when I was driving E8(which is lovely tank, but i don't have it since few months, the MM is harsh for tier 6 tanks :<), you will get more reliable penetrations on side armor.

dagas #52 Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:29 PM

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for me kv-13 is pathetic tank, tier 7 but in  deadmatch 1 vs 1 against kv-1 or kv-2 or kv-3  , kv-13 will lost battle like kid. kv-13 gun 85 mm is pathetic. t34-85 is tier 6 and it have 100mm gun. and kv-13 tier 7 with peace of shit 85mm. for other tanks u kann make dmg with 5tier gun 122mm but it take taime to reload so every other tank kill kv-13 while he reloading. so this tank is not good.

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View PostE57, on 03 June 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

No, you avoid this tank. Avoid me when I'm playing it.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=QQR4dshscsk

First of all get an interface.

Then your video shows nothing, you just camped in the middle of the map hitting tanks one by one.(enemy team looked retarded also, dunno why nobody noticed u, you were just there, at the map's center).

I had better games with my KV-13 than in ur video

Edited by s00ulja, 04 June 2012 - 04:05 PM.


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View Postdagas, on 03 June 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

for me kv-13 is pathetic tank, tier 7 but in  deadmatch 1 vs 1 against kv-1 or kv-2 or kv-3  , kv-13 will lost battle like kid. kv-13 gun 85 mm is pathetic. t34-85 is tier 6 and it have 100mm gun. and kv-13 tier 7 with peace of shit 85mm. for other tanks u kann make dmg with 5tier gun 122mm but it take taime to reload so every other tank kill kv-13 while he reloading. so this tank is not good.

You are so wrong... 85mm cannon has superior accuracy and can penetrate front side of almost every tier 7 tank in game (T29 is harder I admit) just with aiming at flat places (turret including), and his cannon can out DPM most of  cannons putted in medium tanks up to this tier. If you are positioned right, you can bounce shot or two from IS, and in this case monster IS is burning wreck. And this is situation when both of you sit at one place. If you are moving, mobility of KV 13 can give you good advantage, but can give opponent time to fire more, and alpha wins in such situation usually, so KV 13 is ambush predator. When we speak about tier 5 and 6, they all are breakfast for my KV 13. :) Yes frontal engagement are not strong side of KV 13. But you can do battle even by this way if at least one teammate could support you. Just remember, you are distraction in such battles, not main damage dealer. So, low penetration and low alpha 85mm gun is not that bad for this tank. In good hands KV 13 make win of the team, not lose.

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had fun playing with kv13. Olny fault is he has a slow start, compared to other med's.

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You kidding? KV-13 is best tier 7 for me! Great speed with great armor makes you confident on the battlefield. Ok, gun have little damage, but good ROF, penetration and accuracy. I keep this tank for fun, fully upgraded, crew at 100% and will not sell it for nothing! With M8A1 this is the other tank i play solely for FUN! :)

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KV13 IS ONE OF THE BEST ALLROUND TANKS THERE IS....

Corporal_Punishment #58 Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:39 PM

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Certainly its a challenge to use, and it needs to be upgraded to unlock its full potential.

Its never ranked anywhere, as its as specialist as the Tier V scouts - you wont find as many people going across the tech tree's to get it.

Its not an instant fix pwnmobile, but if you are so inclined to play mobile tanks (Tier V scouts, and fast mediums) it can be a rewarding experience.

- You can easily power your way as the spearhead into the enemy base zone racking up kills (if suicidal)
- As top tier you can easily go on the rampage and pretty much wipe the opposing team. Armour + Speed is a great combination.
- The ramming damage this vehicle can output is outstanding (combination of speed, frontal armour and weight, plus a rammer awesome)
- Accuracy is excellent, even on the move.
- Excellent reverse acceleration, good for pop out attacks

General rule as with many mediums, which a lot of people forget - you stop for too long - you die. Just because it has "KV" in the name, dont mistake it for a heavy brawler that can just sit there toe to toe with a real heavy.

del501767825 #59 Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:00 PM

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gun is ok in any fight between tier 1 and 9... 9 is tricky... 10 is almost impossible... ( thank God T110 have weak rear and sides... IS-7 can be done, but is hard in tier 10, gun is little to weak... )

but if top dog... more or less only arty can stop KV-13 for sure... rest will bounce allot...

what is purpose of iDiot gun on T-43 when he can bounce... and 85mm on T-43 will bounce only if unlucky...

sure, to be successful in KV-13 sometimes is easy, and sometimes is hard... But same is with any tank out there...

its ok tank, speed with armor + high rof in tiered battles = win...

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When this tank came out i rebought my t34-85 ditched the IDIOT gun and ground the kv-13 with the 85mm (old tech tree) instead, theres nothing wrong with the 85mm, give this tank a bigger gun it would be OP, the ONLY thing that used to annoy me on this tank was its accuracy on the move but thats just soviet tanks for you




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