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What equipment do you use on the E-75?

  1. Enhanced Gun Laying Driver (451 votes [11.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.78%

  2. Vertical Stabilizer Mk 2 (686 votes [17.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.93%

  3. Coated Optics (113 votes [2.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.95%

  4. Fill Tanks with CO2 (9 votes [0.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.24%

  5. Large Caliber Tank Gun Rammer (1175 votes [30.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.70%

  6. "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 (18 votes [0.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.47%

  7. Improved Ventilation Class 3 (889 votes [23.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.23%

  8. Large Spall Liner (155 votes [4.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.05%

  9. Enhanced Torsion Bars 5+ t Class (17 votes [0.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.44%

  10. Toolbox (114 votes [2.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.98%

  11. Binocular Telescope (102 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  12. Camouflage Net (72 votes [1.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.88%

  13. None (26 votes [0.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.68%

What Consumables do you use on the E-75?

  1. Chocolate (26 votes [0.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.67%

  2. 105-Octane Gasoline (15 votes [0.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.39%

  3. Automatic Fire Extinguishers (268 votes [6.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.89%

  4. Large First Aid Kit (98 votes [2.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.52%

  5. Large Repair Kit (119 votes [3.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.06%

  6. 100-Octane Gasoline (30 votes [0.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.77%

  7. Small First Aid Kit (1173 votes [30.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.16%

  8. Small Repair Kit (1197 votes [30.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.78%

  9. Manual Fire Extinguishers (963 votes [24.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.76%

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Charcharo #1 Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:49 AM

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Welcome to the E 75 Standardpanzer (AKA Tiger III), a tier 9 German heavy tank. It’s basically a Tiger 2 on tier 9.


Previous tank: Tiger 2
http://forum.worldof...45447-tiger-ii/
Next tank: E-100

Tank specs:
http://img220.images...12/e75stats.jpg
Tech tree:
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Overview:
This well balanced vehicle offers great frontal armour, capable of stopping even tier 10 cannon shots. Its top engine allows the vehicle to feel almost as agile as the lighter King Tiger. Unfortunately, this vehicle is quite bad when stock. Even the best KT engine seems underpowered and the suspension does not allow you to turn fast enough. At least the 105mm L68 is decent enough to help in upgrading this thing.
When fully upgraded, this machine is quite powerful. The 128mm gun gives it considerable stopping power, and although the penetration is lower than some other tier 10 guns, it is still enough to penetrate all vehicles in the game. Mobility is nearly as good as the King Tiger and the turret is hard to penetrate at medium ranges even for tier 10 guns.
The weight (around 90 tons!), thick armour and powerful engine make this vehicle deadly when ramming. Unfortunately, like the Maus and E-100, this weight makes it hard to stop when going down-hill. Also, if it is tracked whilst advancing at full speed, the E 75 can make a complete 180 degree turn that can show its weaker side and rear armour to the enemy.
This vehicle can be a relatively good sniper, but surprisingly, it is also quite effective at brawling and dueling other vehicles if need be.
Price: 3 480 000
Camouflage: Not good
Gun Depression: -5°/+18° or -8\+24 (on top gun)


Pros:
- Great frontal armour.
- Decent side and rear armour.
- Relatively maneuverable and agile.
- Can ram most Tier 10 tanks into submission.
- Good amount of health points.
- Pivot turn.
Cons:
- Painful stock tank.
- Relatively low top speed.
- Quite the large target.
- Turret has slow rotation speed.


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Designation:
1.Warrior  2. Steel wall  3. Sniper 4. Support unit 5. Brawler

Crew:
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2. Gunner  Posted Image
3. Driver  Posted Image
4. Radio Operator   Posted Image   
5. Loader   Posted Image

Modules:
Hull:
Armor scheme currently in use:

160/120/120
The upper frontal plate is incredibly hard to penetrate for practically all Tier 10 guns in the game. Only T9 TDs can actually penetrate this more often than not, and that is without sloping. The real trouble is the lower hull. It is only 130mm and even with the good slope, it can be penetrated by guns with more than 218 mm of penetration. That is the reason why E 75 must always slope itself artificially when facing T8+ tanks. Thankfully, 120mm of side armor mean that artificial sloping can be very good, because other vehicles need at least 240 penetration in order to get the overmatch bonus against it.
Rear can, with additional sloping that is, bounce up to 170mm of penetration. :Smile_great:

Suspension:
MAN-Ketten Ausf. A / Max.capacity 87.50 / Turn speed 18 deg per sec.
MAN-Ketten Ausf. B / Max.capacity 94.50 / Turn speed 21 deg per sec.
The very first upgrade you should take is the suspension. It improves mobility and will allow you to mount the turret and gun later.

Engine:
Maybach HL 210 P 30 – 650 h.p. – 20% chance of fire.
Maybach HL 230 P 45 – 750 h.p. – 20% chance of fire.
Maybach HL 234 – 870 h.p. – 20% chance of fire.
Maybach HL 295 Ausf. A – 1200 h.p. – 15% chance of fire.
You simply must have researched the best engine on the Tiger 2, or else you are in for torture. The 870 horse power engine at least allows the E 75 to move, whilst the weaker engines make it slower than the Maus. The best engine, which can also be used on the E-50, is almost as big of an upgrade as the gun. It makes the vehicle move almost like a Tiger 2.

Radio:
FUG 7 – range 415 meters.
Fug 12 – Range of 710 meters.
Stock radio is quite bad. When possible, get the best one. Will help elite the entire German line.

Turrets:
1.E 75-turm Ausf. A
Armor: 185/80/80
Rotation: 25 degrees/second
View range: 402m
2. E 75-turm Ausf. F
Armor: 252/160/160
Rotation: 18 degrees/second
View range: 402m
After the suspension, E 75 really needs the better turret. The stock one is actually not too bad, thanks to the good mantlet, but it has much weaker sides that can be more easily penetrated when being attacked by medium tanks. The improved turret also allows for the mounting of the 128mm gun and improves the RoF of the 105mm L68. Unfortunately, it also has a very low turning speed, which may help medium tanks fight the E 75. This slow turning speed can be compensated for with the pivot turn ability.
Weak spot for both turrets is the commander cupola on the top. It is hard to hit by smaller tanks  though.

Guns:
88L71
This gun was excellent at tier 7, decent enough at tier 8, but on a tier 9 heavy? Unfortunately, it is mostly useless now. True, it is better than the true stock gun of the ST-I and the IS-8, the D-25T. Even so, you must already have the best 105mm gun researched. Use it.

105mm L52
This gun should be researched, but not used for the same reasons as the 88L71.

105mmL68
RoF: 5,6-6,56 (depends on turret)
Penetration: 225/285/60
Average damage: 320/320/440
Accuracy (100m): 0,34
Aim time: 2,3 sec
Now this is one usable weapon! Damage is decent enough, accuracy is great and has good penetration. On the E 75, it gets improved RoF which helps a lot when using this cannon. Careful aim can penetrate all tier 8 and 9 tanks. Tier 10 vehicles are harder, but still possible. You might need to get close to them. I consider this the minimum to use on the E 75.

128mmL55
RoF: 3,83
Penetration: 246/311/65
Average damage: 490/490/630
Accuracy (100m): 0,38
Aim time: 2,9 sec
The best E 75 gun is needed to research the E-100. Thankfully, it has 21mm more penetration when compared to the 105mm L68. Its damage is also quite a lot better, surpassing even the T110 and IS-4 in pure damage per shot. Unfortunately, it reloads very slowly and lacks penetration when compared to most other tier 10 guns. It is still enough to make short work of everything, but it takes a little more aiming and precision when compared to some other guns. Thankfully, it is relatively accurate.
Premium ammo is APCR, meaning it loses penetration with distance but does get the normalization bonus against sloped armour. With 311 mm of penetration, it is quite good... strange considering the 130mm S-70 has better standard penetration but slightly worse gold penetration. :Smile_confused:

Proposed upgrade path:
1. Suspension.
2. Turret.
3. 128mm L55.
4. Engine.
5. E-100.

Comparison with its peers:
E 75 vs VK 4502 ausf B
The VK 4502 B has slightly better frontal armour than the E 75. It also has the exact same gun and a similar turret. The E 75 does however have better mobility once fully upgraded and much superior side and rear armour.  Also, the center mounted turret of the E 75, makes it easier to use when compared to the rear mounted VK 45. However, that rear mounted turret allows the VK to utilize risky but advanced tactics like the sidescraper much more efficiently. Both have pivot turn.

E 75 vs ST-I
The ST-I does have a gun with more penetration and similar accuracy and DPM, but does a little less damage per shot. It has inferior frontal hull armour, but smaller (and weaker) weak spots. Its side is slightly better though, and it can use a backwards sidescraper better than the E 75. ST-I also has a tougher turret but lacks pivot turn.

E 75 vs IS-8
The IS-8 is faster, slightly more maneuverable and also a smaller target when compared to the E 75. However, it loses in damager per shot, armour, lacks pivot turn and also has less health points. It does however have a gun with better penetration and good DPM.

E 75 vs AMX 50 120
The E 75 has much better armour in every single category. It also deals a larger amount of damage per shot and does not need to reload in clips like the French tank. Even so, the AMX has better penetration, accuracy and burst damage thanks to its 4-round clip. It also wins in speed and manoeuvrability, but its side and rear armour are really easy to penetrate, even for most tier 5 tanks.

E 75 vs M103
The M103 has a gun with lower damage per shot, but better RoF, DPM, penetration, accuracy and aim time. Its side and rear are fair game for tier 5 tanks, and still has weaker frontal armour than the E 75. E 75 does lose in accuracy on the move, speed and maneuverability. With top configuration, both vehicles have equal depression. Both have pivot turn

Historical E 75
The E 75 Standardpanzer was intended to be the standard heavy tank to be used as a replacement of the Tiger II and Jagdtiger. The E 75 would have been built on the same production lines as the E-50 for ease of manufacture, and the two vehicles were to share many components, including the same Maybach HL 234 engine. The E 75 would have had much thicker armour however, and in fact compared to the Tiger II the E 75 had improved hull armour all round. As its name indicates, the resulting vehicle would have weighed in at over 75 tonnes, reducing it's speed to around 40 km/h. To offset the increased weight, the bogies were spaced differently than on the E-50, with an extra pair added on each side, giving the E 75 a slightly improved track to ground contact length.
According to some sources, the similarities between the E-50 and the E 75 went further; they were to be equipped with the same turret and 88mm L/71 or L/100 gun, along with an optical rangefinder for increased long range accuracy (German scientists and engineers had successfully designed a 'schmal' or narrow turret and infra-red lighting and sights for use on the prototype Panther F as the war drew to a close). Other sources however, indicate that the E 75 was to be fitted with the much larger Tiger II turret, which could be adapted to accommodate an even more powerful high velocity 10.5 cm gun.

Wiki page:http://wiki.worldoftanks.eu/E-100
WoT Armory report on E 75:http://wotarmory.com...tection-report/

Edited by Charcharo, 13 April 2014 - 10:17 AM.


SniperWolf90 #2 Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:51 AM

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Awesome! Keep up the good work! :-D

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Were waiting for this, thanks! :D

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I still love my E-75, even though its gun is one the worst out there. After playing the IS-8 it feels good to bounce a round again.

A note: The 1200 HP engines really is captital U pgrade.

For crew specilisation I suggest this:

1. Repair for all members (pretty much a nobrainer). Being slow, big and a nice target for arty, having your tracks up quickly again is essential.
2. Firefighting, might not sound minor, but the E-75 gets its gearbox moved to the front making this skill more essential. Also preventive maintance for the driver is not bad.
2. For two you could also get away with: Recon for Commander and Sonar for the Radio man to even futher increase your already awesome viewrange.

Cammo I would leave for last. Just like the KT cammo is not worth writing home about.

Also it is relavily mobile when fully elited. Might want to note that,

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View Postmanti111, on 20 May 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

I still love my E-75, even though its gun is one the worst out there. After playing the IS-8 it feels good to bounce a round again. A note: The 1200 HP engines really is captital U pgrade. For crew specilisation I suggest this: 1. Repair for all members (pretty much a nobrainer). Being slow, big and a nice target for arty, having your tracks up quickly again is essential. 2. Firefighting, might not sound minor, but the E-75 gets its gearbox moved to the front making this skill more essential. Also preventive maintance for the driver is not bad. 2. For two you could also get away with: Recon for Commander and Sonar for the Radio man to even futher increase your already awesome viewrange. Cammo I would leave for last. Just like the KT cammo is not worth writing home about. Also it is relavily mobile when fully elited. Might want to note that,


Firefighting? Seriously? Just get a fire extinguisher.
ANd on moving the engine to the front - I'll just sell this piece of junk unless these Soviet-fanboys buff my gun and make the gearbox a very small one. But I doubt that.

Clutch braking, snap shot, smooth ride, intuition, BiA, Sit. Awareness - these are useful. Camo shouldn't be even considered.

Edited by Loofah, 20 May 2012 - 01:42 PM.


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View PostLoofah, on 20 May 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

Firefighting? Seriously? Just get a fire extinguisher.
ANd on moving the engine to the front - I'll just sell this piece of junk unless these Soviet-fanboys buff my gun and make the gearbox a very small one. But I doubt that.

Clutch braking, snap shot, smooth ride, intuition, BiA, Sit. Awareness - these are useful. Camo shouldn't be even considered.
Its not the engine, just the transmission. Still bad, but not as much.
I must say that for me, the E-75 was one of the finest tanks I have ever played in this game.

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Well according to WG genius, the gearbox is part of the engine. As the gearbox gets move the front, firefighting becomes a tad more important. For 2nd I would indeed tend more to BiA and also getting snapshot and smooth driving as accuracy on the move is absolutely horrible! Recon and Sonar to increase your already superior view range. As for the loader, safe stowage and adreline rush are both nice to have.

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Great thread!

I also thinking to get this beast. I have Tiger II researched, still don't have the top gun yet, need about 15k expierence points.


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Also with the 128 it's has -8\+24 depression and elevation.

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View PostTank_Killer1, on 20 May 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Also with the 128 it's has -8\+24 depression and elevation.

Thanks!

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View PostHammerhead20, on 20 May 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Great thread!

I also thinking to get this beast. I have Tiger II researched, still don't have the top gun yet, need about 15k expierence points.

Do get that 105 L/68, or otherwise the E-75 grind is going to be even more of a pain.

Also I would not 100% rely on the frontal armor of the stock turret though. It is basicly the kt turret, but it they miss the gun mantlet and hit the metal, the American improved 120mm and the new Soviet 122mm will go through it with ease.

The improved turret really makes it armored and takes away that weakspot (basicly to stock turret is a bit a big weakspot, depending on how you look at it)  and you can even go hulldown with it.

Edited by manti111, 20 May 2012 - 03:29 PM.


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I love my E-75, but the tracks fall off quicker than a hookers' underwear when confronted by a £50 note

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I agree billy :Smile_Default:  especially that damn arty double track :Smile-angry: but its still great tank front can bounce even ray guns (UFP of course) :Smile_glasses:

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View Postmanti111, on 20 May 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

Do get that 105 L/68, or otherwise the E-75 grind is going to be even more of a pain.

Also I would not 100% rely on the frontal armor of the stock turret though. It is basicly the kt turret, but it they miss the gun mantlet and hit the metal, the American improved 120mm and the new Soviet 122mm will go through it with ease.

The improved turret really makes it armored and takes away that weakspot (basicly to stock turret is a bit a big weakspot, depending on how you look at it)  and you can even go hulldown with it.

Yes, without Tiger's top gun, grind with E-75 would be a nightmare.

Anyway, all stock tanks are "bad", but upgraded - they can perform really great.

Thanks for advice.:Smile_Default:

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View PostCharcharo, on 20 May 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

Comparison with its peers:
E-75 vs VK 4502 ausf B
The VK 4502 B has slightly better frontal armour than the E-75. It also has the exact same gun and a similar turret. The E-75 does however have better mobility once fully upgraded and much superior side and rear armour.  Also, the center mounted turret of the E-75, makes it easier to use when compared to the rear mounted VK 45. However, that rear mounted turret allows the VK to utilize risky but advanced tactics like the sidescraper much more efficiently. Both have pivot turn.

As former VK45b driver, I'm calling you to fix that description to "E-75 have superior hull armour everywhere compared to VK4502B, also doesn't suffer fires and engine damage when hit in lower plate head on". Just because Vk45b glacis and lower plate are thicker on paper, doesn't mean they are better - they have less angle from vertical, making quite big difference. Sure, lower plate feels slightly tougher (its smaller for sure) than in E-75, but its traded by weak glacis plate and BIG engine/gearbox hitboxes it front.

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View PostPanocek, on 20 May 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

As former VK45b driver, I'm calling you to fix that description to "E-75 have superior hull armour everywhere compared to VK4502B, also doesn't suffer fires and engine damage when hit in lower plate head on". Just because Vk45b glacis and lower plate are thicker on paper, doesn't mean they are better - they have less angle from vertical, making quite big difference. Sure, lower plate feels slightly tougher (its smaller for sure) than in E-75, but its traded by weak glacis plate and BIG engine/gearbox hitboxes it front.
I cant be too sure about that as I am a current VK 4502 B driver. You are right about fires and the smaller lower hull though, but I do think the VK 45 does well in the frontal armour department. You are correct that I am unsure whether it is actually better.

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While I was playing in my Vk45b (during 7.1, no new US/RU tanks around) I was too often penetrated through unangled glacis even by German 12.8cm KwK/Pak 44 (VK45b, E-75, Ferdi), while even using "OP" guns in M103 and IS-4 I can't achieve penetration through unangled E-75. While Vk45b is matter of farting in their general direction, often with burning result.

I enjoyed the tank, even when using long 88 (no long 105 to use from previous tank), fun to play when time, place and skill meets. But any other tank in similar situation will be better.

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View PostPanocek, on 20 May 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

While I was playing in my Vk45b (during 7.1, no new US/RU tanks around) I was too often penetrated through unangled glacis even by German 12.8cm KwK/Pak 44 (VK45b, E-75, Ferdi), while even using "OP" guns in M103 and IS-4 I can't achieve penetration through unangled E-75. While Vk45b is matter of farting in their general direction, often with burning result.

I enjoyed the tank, even when using long 88 (no long 105 to use from previous tank), fun to play when time, place and skill meets. But any other tank in similar situation will be better.

Well, I have penetrated slightly angled E75 in the UFP from 450m. Does that count?
Lower front of VK4502B seems tougher to me and it's also smaller. Upper front of VK is a bit weaker, but IMO not by much. Their frontal protection is comparable, E75 just has:
- better sides
- better rear
- better mobilityy
- better gun depression.
While VK can do some crazy sidescraping I guess but overall sucks.
I've heard VK has actually way better accuracy on the move.

Edited by Loofah, 20 May 2012 - 06:39 PM.


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View PostLoofah, on 20 May 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Well, I have penetrated slightly angled E75 in the UFP from 450m. Does that count?
Lower front of VK4502B seems tougher to me and it's also smaller. Upper front of VK is a bit weaker, but IMO not by much. Their frontal protection is comparable, E75 just has:
- better sides
- better rear
- better mobilityy
- better gun depression.
While VK can do some crazy sidescraping I guess but overall sucks.
I've heard VK has actually way better accuracy on the move.
Only slightly better. I want VK to get better side armor. It would really make it more enjoyable.

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View PostCharcharo, on 20 May 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Only slightly better. I want VK to get better side armor. It would really make it more enjoyable.

Instead E75 probably gets nerfed (frontal "engine") so they'll be on par again. At the bottom on T9.
E75 and IS4 were kings of T9. Nowadays T9 heavies are getting weaker and weaker, the difference between  them and T10 is getting bigger and bigger. E75 was the last competitive T9, and WG can't allow any tanks being competitive with T10s for some reason.
I think we should expect E75 to E100 gap to get as big as M103 to T11OP one.

Edited by Loofah, 20 May 2012 - 10:36 PM.





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