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matlhtlq #1 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:01 AM

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hey...i spent a lot on getting this thing and upgradeing it....yet even if it wins with a kill...a damage and a spot....plus 34% base capture it did'nt make enough credits to pay for it's self.....but the ppl at wot say there is no issues with this tank....any thoughs would be welcome....it got 9500 credits but cost 9400 to repair and it survived....yet on a loss with no kills an destroyed it only cost 8400 to repair.....wot staff bleated that if i had prem account it would make a diff....srry but a win is a win...i know it's armour aint too good but it won but lost me money ???????
help me here pls ppl :(

saml6131 #2 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:03 AM

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Its an end tier tank. Its not meant to earn credits, just like any other end tier tank. Best suggestion, don't get shot. Your repair bill is what costs you the most. If you don't get shot, you can often earn credits on it, but as it is the slowest tier 5 scout, its quite hard to stay alive. I recommend you look through the forums for suggestions on how to play the tank more effectively, so you can still play the tank but not lose credits.

Edit - Seriously? I get neg-repped for trying to help you? Last time I ever help someone.

matlhtlq #3 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:04 AM

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i don't want it to earn just pay for itself....there is no play for fun if it loses credits to use it

matlhtlq #4 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:06 AM

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damm thing costs 55k to research....so it should at least pay for itself if it wins an gets kills spots an damages others

matlhtlq #5 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:10 AM

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View Postsaml6131, on 21 May 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Its an end tier tank. Its not meant to earn credits, just like any other end tier tank. Best suggestion, don't get shot. Your repair bill is what costs you the most. If you don't get shot, you can often earn credits on it, but as it is the slowest tier 5 scout, its quite hard to stay alive. I recommend you look through the forums for suggestions on how to play the tank more effectively, so you can still play the tank but not lose credits.
yup it got damaged....so prey tell me how it costs less to repair a knocked out m24 than a damaged one

matlhtlq #6 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:18 AM

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yup it got damaged....so prey tell me how when it loses it costs less to repair a knocked out M24 than a damaged one

saml6131 #7 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:27 AM

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View Postmatlhtlq, on 21 May 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

yup it got damaged....so prey tell me how it costs less to repair a knocked out m24 than a damaged one
I said don't get shot. No damage, no repair bill.

E57 #8 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:31 AM

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Survive more, or move down to the T-50. It's cheap to maintain, I hear.

matlhtlq #9 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:33 AM

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View Postsaml6131, on 21 May 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

I said don't get shot. No damage, no repair bill.
its a tank they get shot lol....my concern is it costs less if destroyed with out hitting anything and game lose...yet costs more if it wins...kills...spots....damages an survives with a game win ....dont make sence...and no i'm not a new player who knows shit...srry for language...yank tanks have weak armour...as a note the t34 russian is not correctly represented in this game

matlhtlq #10 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:35 AM

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View PostE57, on 21 May 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Survive more, or move down to the T-50. It's cheap to maintain, I hear.
survival is not the issue....its the win cost..repair issue....damm my t29 costs less to repair even if it loses

saml6131 #11 Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:45 AM

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View Postmatlhtlq, on 21 May 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

its a tank they get shot lol....my concern is it costs less if destroyed with out hitting anything and game lose...yet costs more if it wins...kills...spots....damages an survives with a game win ....dont make sence...and no i'm not a new player who knows shit...srry for language...yank tanks have weak armour...as a note the t34 russian is not correctly represented in this game

It doens't cost more if you win, but if you take module damage (Such as having your tracks damaged), it will increase your repair bill.

If you can't find any topics in the forum that helps you, I recommend these videos made by Highflyer15 / TheRiisingSun. They helped me, and they may be able to help you too.

http://www.youtube.c...notation_100281
http://www.youtube.c...nnotation_12620

Private_Miros #12 Posted 21 May 2012 - 01:34 AM

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Some spotting and around 600 damage will get you do break even, even when dying. Profit when you survive.

Just be support first and scout second. Try to spot, but don't rush to a position where you aren't safe. Better to stay alive and help to clean up enemies later, or to spot for arty or TD's.

azakow #13 Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:58 AM

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View Postmatlhtlq, on 21 May 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

its a tank they get shot lol....my concern is it costs less if destroyed with out hitting anything and game lose...yet costs more if it wins...kills...spots....damages an survives with a game win ....dont make sence...and no i'm not a new player who knows shit...srry for language...yank tanks have weak armour...as a note the t34 russian is not correctly represented in this game
Since you are not a new player (2300+ battles) you should be able to read the forum as well.
If you would do this, you will find that you are not the only one noticing this issue.

The reasons of posters are always the same; none premimum account, hence not enough income to break even.
So are the answers of the community.

In some cases, the posters are more upset about the "bad" decission they made, than about the vehicle itself.
I'm not talking about the reseaching the M24 at all, but spending alot of free XP on a vehicle as in your case.
This will also skip the battle experience of the M5 Steward, which is important to learn about high tier battles.

This vehicle is expensive to maintain and demanding on the commanders skills.
Moreover it will put you into battles at positions in the team rooster you have little experience yet.

I suggest, you work on your playstyle, or leave it in your garage until you have more battle experience over all.
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teh_imp #14 Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:48 PM

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I played some 150 battles with the M5 Stuart to unlock the M24 and I found this experience very helpful and it prepared me well for playing the M24 so I very much agree with the post above.

FetterFettsack #15 Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:37 AM

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The M24 is one of those tanks, which mainly depend on its players battle experience, tactical skill and his or her ability to find the right moment for an arty raid or a dogfight with a  hightiertank.

Other tanks do not relie that much on such things due to their technical advantages like armour and/or speed, but the Chaffee does.

To make it clear: the reason why you earn to less is your lack of knowledge how to use this tank properly on the battlefield. This is not meant as offense, it is just the truth. I think i can say that, i also needed nearly twohundred battles until i got at least a bit of this mentioned knowledge. The only way to get out of this misery is practice, practice and practice again.

Massai #16 Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:11 AM

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I have maxed M24 yesterday, and from the moment i bought top canon - it became a nightmare for enemy.
If MM puts me on places 1-7 - I am an ultimate weapon, capable of saving already lost battle...
If MM puts me on places 8-15 - i'm still pain in the ass.

It's a GREAT tank, really, and gives a lot of fun playing. During battle i fire about 30 rounds, and most of them penetrate...

Arallaw #17 Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:11 PM

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Another this kind of thread. Didn't you really find any old thread about Chaffee costs? There's plenty of those already. New internet user maybe?

Devast4tor #18 Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:11 AM

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View Postsaml6131, on 21 May 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

I said don't get shot. No damage, no repair bill.

Lol.

R1CHB #19 Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

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View Postsaml6131, on 21 May 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Its an end tier tank. Its not meant to earn credits, just like any other end tier tank. Best suggestion, don't get shot. Your repair bill is what costs you the most. If you don't get shot, you can often earn credits on it, but as it is the slowest tier 5 scout, its quite hard to stay alive. I recommend you look through the forums for suggestions on how to play the tank more effectively, so you can still play the tank but not lose credits.

completely disagree. T50-2 is same tier and also an end of line tank, and thats easy to make money on. I cleared 40k profit it last night!
I like my Chaffee but play it less simply because its more difficult to make a profit with. (and i can not see any reason why it should be like that)

saml6131 #20 Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

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View PostR1CHB, on 04 July 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

completely disagree. T50-2 is same tier and also an end of line tank, and thats easy to make money on. I cleared 40k profit it last night!
I like my Chaffee but play it less simply because its more difficult to make a profit with. (and i can not see any reason why it should be like that)

No reason to neg rep me just because you disagree.
The Chaffee can earn lots of money too, and if you use premium then you should always make money on it. The problem is that the T-50-2 is a tiny, fast and manoeuvrable little tank with bouncy armour. I've bounced shots off it with a M46 Patton, and the tracks can absorb shots too. So it doesn't need such large repair bills as it doesn't get shot as much as the Chaffee, which is much larger and slower, making it easier to hit and the armour is useless. In my 300+ battles in it I have never bounced a shot. I've had modules absorb damage, but no shots that bounced.

At the tiers that these tanks play, you have guns so powerful they can usually kill you in one shot if they hit. So who's going to die more? The slow large Chaffee, or the fast nimble T-50-2? The only reason both tanks can lose credits is due to the repair bill. Ammo costs are minimal, even for the Chaffee, who's main strength is its gun.

Premium accounts should always break even on both tanks, and it should usually make good profit. Whether you get a repair bill or not determines how much profit you make, if any. But, both have different roles on the battlefield. As I said, the Chaffee is much slower and larger than the T-50-2, so it should not be played in the same way. In fact, many experienced Chaffee players would know that it plays similar to the end tier (Tiers 7 - 9) US medium tanks, who have no armour, are generally slower then their other nations counterparts but have good gun depression and a good ROF.

Watch these videos by Highflyer15 / TheRiisingSun, they have some good advice in them.

http://www.youtube.c...notation_100281
http://www.youtube.c...nnotation_12620





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