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Tomasz6543's Photo Tomasz6543 24 May 2012

View PostGeneral_Kunde, on 24 May 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Dear Pros,
I have a question:

How can I make my tank competitive against people who use gold ammo?

What? I need to buy gold ammo with real money?

Okay, thanks for your answers...

You have to invest max 5 EUR or receive max 1000 gold from your clan, win 3 matches in Sunday GO4WOT and be one of the 8 best teams.  From now WG will pay you for playing in their game :)
Edited by Tomasz6543, 24 May 2012 - 04:17 PM.
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Bump's Photo Bump 24 May 2012

View PostTomasz6543, on 24 May 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

You have to invest max 5 EUR or receive max 1000 gold from your clan, win 3 matches in Sunday GO4WOT and be one of the 8 best teams.  From now WG will pay you for playing in their game :)

Very well said, gold ammo is a part of the game and is used in the Pro scene. There is actually a very good discussion about it here if you would like to contribute.

Thanks

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Abusemeh's Photo Abusemeh 24 May 2012

if you are lacking in gold, I can suggest you following:
https://twitter.com/...677427786137601
there you can earn some gold! =)



regards
Abu
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sne_gb's Photo sne_gb 24 May 2012

View PostGeneral_Kunde, on 24 May 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Dear Pros,
I have a question:

How can I make my tank competitive against people who use gold ammo?

What? I need to buy gold ammo with real money?

Okay, thanks for your answers...

TBH goldammo doesn't make such a big difference as many think. For new comers it might be a great help, but from a certain level your skills make a bigger difference.
Play as a team, use your scouts as good as possible, aim good and play your tanks correct (e.g. angling or using your turrets on the t32) and you will see that gold isn't such a big deal anymore.
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Bump's Photo Bump 24 May 2012

View PostAbusemeh, on 24 May 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

if you are lacking in gold, I can suggest you following:
https://twitter.com/...677427786137601
there you can earn some gold! =)


Yep just a bit of gold there ... :Smile_glasses:
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fabse's Photo fabse 24 May 2012

In the ESL the only t8 tank used is a t32.
It has shitty armour all around, only the turret armour is good.
Since not even premium ammo penetrates the turret, the advantage of gold ammo is to some degree negletable as long as you are good enough.
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Esourze's Photo Esourze 25 May 2012

View Postfabse, on 24 May 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

In the ESL the only t8 tank used is a t32.
It has shitty armour all around, only the turret armour is good.
Since not even premium ammo penetrates the turret, the advantage of gold ammo is to some degree negletable as long as you are good enough.

Yes but then again the gun on the T32 has les penetration then T7 tanks without gold loaded.
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Scharthak's Photo Scharthak 25 May 2012

View PostEsourze, on 25 May 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Yes but then again the gun on the T32 has les penetration then T7 tanks without gold loaded.

True - thats why non T32 heavies wouldn´t have that much of a problem without gold ^^

If you are good (or have a good clan) you will get more than you pay for gold equipment
If you are not good, a no gold rule would even hit you harder since aiming for weakspots in a 7vs7 is more complicated than shooting gold ^^
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hslan_Humbug_Total's Photo hslan_Humbug_Total 31 May 2012

Goldammo isn´t a deciding, just a helping factor. Coordination, Movement, Communication and individual skills are more important then the added penetration.
Most encounters will be in close distance anyways and even with goldammo the better players are aiming for weakspots.
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Bump's Photo Bump 31 May 2012

View Posthslan_Humbug_Total, on 31 May 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

Goldammo isn´t a deciding, just a helping factor. Coordination, Movement, Communication and individual skills are more important then the added penetration.
Most encounters will be in close distance anyways and even with goldammo the better players are aiming for weakspots.

Interestingly it does allow for the use of some low tier tanks to deadly efficiency.
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hslan_Humbug_Total's Photo hslan_Humbug_Total 03 Jun 2012

View PostBump, on 31 May 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Interestingly it does allow for the use of some low tier tanks to deadly efficiency.

True, Bisons with gold are beast. Also a T1 with goldammo can do a lot against french tanks.
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remuneratio's Photo remuneratio 03 Jun 2012

speaking of gold ammo. what do you think how many of this fly around in randoms?
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Scharthak's Photo Scharthak 03 Jun 2012

Not really sure. I never really look for the different trailer colors.

But, apart from the odd games where someone forgets to change from ESL setup (expensive thing to do ;P ) or rare fun/troll round, i do not expect much gold in those. It is too expensive and doesn´t really change that much.

However, i do use some gold shells on ESL arties like Bison or Hummel for training (got to know how to hit with those reliably, after all). And to have a couple of gold shells on t7-t9 tanks for the chance to change the tide can be useful, too, in case you meet a low hp t10 and want to pay for a better chance to win. But since randoms are mostly won by MM (the rest of your team - losses with several kills on ones account are quite common) that rarely helps much.

In general i consider using gold ammo in randoms as too expensive for the reward it may give ... and as too boring (would still prefer a damage boost over penetration boost :) ). So i stay with prem account and xp conversion if needed.
Edited by Scharthak, 03 June 2012 - 02:07 AM.
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hslan_Humbug_Total's Photo hslan_Humbug_Total 04 Jun 2012

I´m not using gold ammo aswell in randoms. Never alone, never in companies, never in platoons and I have the feeling that most of the other players around are doing the same, because it´s t expensive. Sometimes I encountered strange penetrations, but after all they are very rare and they could just be bad luck.
Never using goldammo has also the pratical use that you will allways train to hit weakspots. There is no invincible tank out there
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Tribuuu's Photo Tribuuu 07 Jun 2012

View Postaimbulance_gb, on 24 May 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

TBH goldammo doesn't make such a big difference as many think. For new comers it might be a great help, but from a certain level your skills make a bigger difference.
Play as a team, use your scouts as good as possible, aim good and play your tanks correct (e.g. angling or using your turrets on the t32) and you will see that gold isn't such a big deal anymore.

and why the tiger II becomes useless?? its cause of goldammo and its not esport cause its pay to win! and think about the gold consumables.
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Pandemic's Photo Pandemic 26 Jun 2012

Pay to win? I agree with you at some point but... Think about it like a investment. You can win a lot more
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Gorzki's Photo Gorzki 07 Jul 2012

Ok true, without empty clichees

tournaments make people use more gold on ammo then WG is paying as a reward. That's 1 of the reasons why WG is making those tournaments.

Few teams will get a profit most of them will use gold without gaining anything thus sponsoring the tournament.
Gold gives quite huge advantage.

That's the reality, live with it. If you don't like it, Wargaming has only one answer for you:

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If you don't like the rules, don't play

So... please make everyone's live easier and drop the matter of gold ammo in tounaments. Whining to wargaming never worked in a past, no reason to believe it will change in afuture
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incurably's Photo incurably 16 Jul 2012

in the beginning of ESL go4wot gold ammo was NOT ALOWED!!!
i dont know how many people here actually palyed in that time but the problem that came up was that screenshots were not enough to prove anything anymore because gamefiles can be changed so it seems you ahve loaded normal ammo while you had gold ammo (switch graphic files for ammo )

and as i understood it at that time the problem was proving quick and efficient that nobody is using gold
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Esourze's Photo Esourze 17 Jul 2012

View Postincurably, on 16 July 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

in the beginning of ESL go4wot gold ammo was NOT ALOWED!!!
i dont know how many people here actually palyed in that time but the problem that came up was that screenshots were not enough to prove anything anymore because gamefiles can be changed so it seems you ahve loaded normal ammo while you had gold ammo (switch graphic files for ammo )

and as i understood it at that time the problem was proving quick and efficient that nobody is using gold

I recall that I played a few of those back in FHA.

If i remeber correctly they were talking about maybe do some kind of control program that pulled out information about the neccesary files and if they had been tampered with. at one point i even think they wanted to lock a buch of files from being able to be accessed from the user. by having them on the servers but they thought it would take to much server capacy to be worth it.
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