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T-54 doesnt need any buffs as other nation tanks doesnt need any nerfs they just want to ruin the balance of the game in favor of russian tanks.

How much have we ever seen that russian tanks have been nerfed - not much. How much have we seen a other nation tanks have been nerfed - a lot.

That says all.

the T-54 needs a better aim time. The tank at the moment is crap,

Also all shells should be cheaper for T9 med guns but that is a other department

they dont like german outclassing sovijet? HA!

germany: WW2

Sovijet: 60's

a outclassing it self.

Face it WG, and russians, No matter what you do, think, and say, your tanks fail. No Offence you know

 Vrenshrg, on 05 June 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

That part i agree some of the guns ammo should be a lot cheaper.

 Vrenshrg, on 05 June 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

I think the T-54 needs better accuracy on the move, not an aim-time buff. . .

But 100% agree on the shell costs, those a re ridiculous when you look at the actual damage and penetration values of the guns.

to get back on topic.
did anyone play it on the test server?
i got to play about 25 games on a E50 on the test server and it was terrible.
i got lit on fire multiple times and in one game even twice.
and it was not only LFP hits, it was from UFP hits.
i stoped repairing Cannon, Tracks or Ammorack because of the constant risk of engine damage and the resulting utter uselessness of the E50.
in my opinion the tank is ruined.

now, i don't know if it is just me or if other people had similar expirience or how much of a factor the constant gold-round spam on the test server is.

 PulseSUI, on 09 June 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

Most Russians use auto-aim and fire at the upper part of UFP and turret. That's the main reason why German tanks are performing pretty well on Russian server (my E75 survived 3 minutes of being shot at by M103, T110 and T34 because not even 1 of them tried firing at the LFP during the 0.7.2 test). However, people in European server actually have brains, so I'm afraid my happy E50 driving will end soon. I have set on fire  several E75's during this test. I basically haven't met any E50's so I can't tell if they burn so much, but I'm sure they will. My own E50 wasn't hit in the LFP even once, because auto-aim doesn't point there, you know

And yes, transmission is so big that even shots through the UFP will hit it. While it's not a problem in case of E75 (and we know damn well why ) E50 will be a crippled tank each time the engine gets hit, because it takes module damage every damn battle and now there will be 1 new module damage at least once every 2 battles. This tank was no way overperforming, winning was damn difficult with it and now will turn into a sad joke.


Something from my post from E75 frontal transmission topic, with numbers adjusted, because E50 is a med, so it gets hit in the rear more often
Now, instead of calling it "historical adjustment of transmission", let's just use simple numbers to describe this nerf:
400% increased chance of fire per battle + you don't have to get flanked/expose your sides to suffer from it (to make something clear - before the nerf this tank only burned because of shots to the rear that ignited the fuel tanks, and sometimes because of engine damage)
-5% hull traverse (no more fuel)
-5% turret traverse (no more fuel)
600% increased chance of engine damage. + you don't have to get flanked/expose your sides to suffer from it (it was only damaged by shots to the rear and happened rarely, now it'll happen every 2nd battle or worse)
Edited by Loofah, 09 June 2012 - 11:16 AM.

Nerf nerf nerf..
The future of this game is everybody plays with Russian tanks only

This is extra shitty been playing my p2 for some time and i have 20k of exp more to e50... There is too big bias. They only buff russians, dont give a damn about eu, they are just pigs to suck money from, but if im not wrong most of money comes from EU and NA, russians are too poor... They want it historical? Make those fuckin russian tanks guns get unuseful after few shots (in Kursk battles russian bad steel was getting bad of heat)... And really guys THERE IS NO GOD DAMNED REASON TO CRY OUT LOUD ON THIS FORUM, NOT A SINGLE DEV LOOKS HERE... Im not german fanatic. Both Russia and Third Reich fucked my country, but Stalin was making it much longer(Poland ofc)...

Actually, this might not even be a Russian bias, just fairly standard stat policy that encourages constant grind. We more or less agree, that the first line people research is the German one, right? At least due to their reputation during the war.

So now... where's the fun (from WG's perspective) in people finishing their desired German line, being content and staying with it, hardly considering trying any other nation? nerf it, watch them squirm and reluctantly going for other lines, prolonging the grind, staying in the game and increasing the likelihood of them buying gold for some reason.

After testing E-50 for some 15 battles on the test server I can that the E-50 tank is no longer the same vehicle.
You will suffer engine damage and fires constantly. Just like the Panther II.

Perhaps the game favors USSR tanks, Perhaps it doesnt, but...
I will say that the game is heavy tank biased. Any and all vehciles that threaten heavy tanks gets a nerbat beyond reason.

Patton: 0.47 accuracy?! wtf Object 261 arty shoots more accurate than that. Also accuracy on the move was nerfed. And acceleration... etc etc
T-54: obviously any Tier 9 vehicle can penetrate it in the front and lower front turret which was impossible before. It gets ammo racked quite frequently.
E:50: Well they took a medium tank and made into somekind of heavy medium hybrid. mkay... but it kinda works. And now the nerf is to set it on fire evey damn time or atleast severe engine damage.
Meaning it's a KV.

Heavy tanks generally suffers extremely little penalty for what they can do.
The only heavy tanks I can think of that has serious drawbacks are the Maus and 4502 P.

other than that heavy tanks offer:
Better camo, view range, hp, armor and some even move like mediums.
And some are as fast or faster.

Just something about the planned Nerf, the Devs are lacking evidence since they werent able to read the numbers properly^^.
Storm stated:

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He Corrected his post cause the KT has, in real nearly the same lenght than the AMX 50B and the AMX got a german Maybach engine in teh rear with his gearbox at the rear. Same engine, same space so teh WG argument about not enough space isnt correct anymore ;)

Uninstalled the whole WoRT-crap last week!

Lots of better games to play.

Arrogant WG got quite a lot of money from me, but now the flow stopped.
Not a battle more, not a dime more.

And for last, a special message for WG : F U

Glad i dont have the E50 the only way im getting this tank back if is the transmission goes back its original place the blue prints even stated the transmission was in the back .

 Obirzoe, on 11 June 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

It never was correct, it is just an unwanted and un-needed nerf, they went from "historical accuracy" to "not a nerf" to "historically inaccurate for the sake of the game" and such. And they announced further nerfs on the old E-50. I guess they want to bring all T9 meds down to T8.5 performance and below 47% winratio mark.

 Ew_, on 12 June 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

They are already nerfing the E50, while not touching other T9 meds, and what's more funny is - E50 is keeping its MM tiers and MM value, which is beyond retarded. If they are going to introduce T10 meds in august, then WHY DON'T THEY WAIT TILL AUGUST WITH NERFS?!  (caps to release some of my rage).
Edited by Loofah, 13 June 2012 - 12:24 AM.

Can someone tell me how it compares to Panther II in 7.4, I mean chance of fire or damaged engine? After half year I'm close to E50, but after reading so many threads that E50 is nerfed in 7.4, I'm not sure whether to get it or keep P2, as I'm mostly satisfied with P2 and speed/sniper style.

 fx0, on 17 June 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Its ok  most ppl think that because They are moving the transmission to the front on the E50,E75, and King tiger this tanks will suck... wich  imo  all that negative hype is way overated ppl who play  on test server says that there is no diference at all.   Hell in theory  just because someone hit your transmission doesnt mean anything,  a hit on transmission doesnt  make fires, or it shouldnt, a hit on the fuel tank or in the enigne, or ammo rack its a diferent matter.  If im not mistaken the VK4502  had the transmission on front and were a good tier 9 on its own, im tired of hiting the lower plate of the VK and  not once i remember that tank catching fire from there.  
  I play german tanks as much i play soviet ones, and i can say this,  german tanks  are mostly fine imo.
  I recon the tier 10 Maus and E100 might need a bit of love here and there, but the rest of the tanks?  are just fine mostly.  For some reason german tank players overall speaking are   the most whining ppl in the game.
  Before they speak about soviet tanks, being buffed they should try to play an IS8 or an Kv4.
Edited by Tiger_Buster, 17 June 2012 - 01:33 AM.

Is anyone else selling this thing or will you wait to get the new E50 then sell it im really tempted to sell it later on monday after my type farm has ended.

 DerRizerPin, on 17 June 2012 - 07:02 AM, said:

I'll keep my E-50 to have a complete collection of German Sniper Medium Tanks from Tier VII to X. I do not know if I'll keep playing it, sometimes maybe. But not on a regular basis as it was used to be.