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I finally manage to unlock the AC Mle 46. I must say that this TD disapoint me :/ I know those guns having played with ARL 44 and AMX M4 45. The guns are good but the vehicule itself is not. It is really suited for a super safety camping role, whit a kind scout to show you some good target to shoot at. The problem is, you usually are not alone in this role.

arl v39 is one of the worst vehicles I've ever played in this game.

Every time I try to get double xp bonus:

defeat defeat defeat defeat defeat... (...)

I gave up
Edited by Solaxe, 17 July 2012 - 08:43 PM.

Lot's of negative comments!

I played it only on test server, so maybe it is nerfed beyond any recognition (NEBAR), IDK.

Anyway, play it as TD ( i mean camping, yes), and it may not look so shitty as it is painted of. It cant be compared with tanks like VK 3601 (H) and etc. or used like it, it is not weapon for front lines.
Edited by Urmo345, 17 September 2012 - 03:03 PM.

I've grinded M3 Lee twice (beta once).
I've grinded T34 twice.
I played 100 battles with Somua S-40.
I've played nearly every single tank in this game and I don't like skipping any since I wanna know what the whole tree is like that leads to the tier 10/ w/e -tank.

I've never ever used gold to convert free-xp. That is until I met this horrid thing called ARL V39. I liked it as much as I like the idea of getting shot in the face by a sawed-off shotgun packed with hard salt after being flayed with a rusty knife.

To rate its performance:
Camo - My Maus has better.
Gun - It's as reliable as 1980's Alfa Romeo. To put in more detail, I'd say it's as accurate as a horse on a water slide, it aims almost as fast as I take a dumb while constipating and it does it constantly since the gun angle is as wide as religious fervor's mind.
Mobility - Moves forward, turns a bit slower than T95 and reverses occasionally.
Armor - "What?"

When I say my Maus has better camo, I really do mean it. I was slightly behind a bush, camo net on, another bush in front of me (through which I couldn't see so it should've hid the muzzle flash as usual) and still a PzIV spotted me from ~300m when I shot. This in fact shouldn't even be possible as far as I've understood the mechanics correctly.

TL;DR This tank is a great joy and everyone should be able to enjoy it. I recommend it wholeheartedly.

I personally found the M3 Lee and Somua S-40 worst than the ARL V39. Its not a good tank, but with the top engine it drives not too bad and you need to equipt cammo. Further more is it soft as butter and can count the bounces on the front on one hand.

 fanttis, on 18 September 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

That made me laugh, the ARL39 makes me sadder than Watership Down, it really is the "Kinder egg of doom"

For the commander

Still only 20k to go


Edited by Supernashwan, 19 September 2012 - 03:41 PM.

the worst tank of the game.

It's a big crap, guns look good but it's his crappy gun traverse and aim speed made it pointless + the non camo finish to kill it + the no armor + he is ugly
Edited by TxCRP, 20 September 2012 - 10:55 PM.

 Roomel, on 20 September 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Fake, just try the A-20.

Yes the A-20 was hell, when I started playing this game, quitted that tank (and almost the game). Later when I had atleast had a clue about the game, I started playing it again because i wanted to play the russian medium line and it was still a crap tank to play.

Anyways, yesterday sold the ARL V39 yesterday because I had enought xp for the AMX AC Mle.1946 that is half priced with this weekends special

 KuroNyra, on 20 September 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

 Gmop, on 21 September 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

Perfect timing, me too elited the ARl 39 last night, I do hope the AMX AC Mle.1946 isn't as bad

 fanttis, on 18 September 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

How do you know it was the pziv and not some hidden bushwarrior at some other angle?

ruined cause of gun traverse and non-existent, hell lets even call it anti-camouflage. if the aiming time was improved a decent amount that could negate the fact the gun is almost fixed, either that or increase the traverse, but it has neither which makes it a super super inefficient machine, people might think a comparison between the German Tier VI and the French Tier VI, the French one has the much better gun, I mean look at how much penetrating power it has, and it hits quite nice as well to boot, but would take a Jagdpanzer IV over one in a heartbeat, for what reason? sure the L/56 on the Jagdpanzer IV might under-perform but at least the chassis can make use of it, can make it work where as the opposite is true of the V39, also the IV has much better damage/minute as well and almost never misses, where as the 90MM on the V39 seems rather prone to weird bounces against targets it shouldn't bounce (again not a problem for L/56, it seems as though it does in-fact have 132MM penetration, but not often less) and the 90MM is rather prone to shells missing a mile, fulled focused, not moving targeting the side of a T34 (not real small huh?) and it misses a tanks length to the side.

Idk exactly HOW bad this quote/ rolling kinderegg full of bullshit /end quote performs yet, I'm still swimming around in the tracked bathtub that leads to it, but so far I can see only two real drawbacks when looking up the stats of the elited vehicle on the Wiki.

Gun traverse arc.
Aim time for the DCA 45 and 105mm.

Armour_____________________________________________________________________________________
To keep it simple, I think side armour is useless for every TD on any Tier save for the Death Star model TDs produced by the US and germany. Whatever hits your side will pen and do damage.

Frontal armour on the other hand... Well we know the story about the KV-1s front, 75mm plate with mg port, driver's visor and a lonely headlight on it, and below/in front of it is a thinner plate at a ridiculous angle that CANNOT be penetrated by any AP shell from any Tier 3-6 the KV-1 will ever be hit by. Same rule applies to the V39, xept both plates are thinner.
If you hit the well-sloped lower front hull topside plate, your shell has a chance of just sliding along that and end up jumping far above the tank. Hitting the not-so-sloped part with the driver's viewport on it=pen, same goes for KV-1. I have bounced there a few times with the 122mm AP shells of the KV-1S and the long 88 of the Tiger H, but that only happens when I'm facehugging, at longer ranges shells go through like hot shells through butter.

The point of the V39's armour is clearly not to bounce shells from other Tier VI vehicles, and it doesn't do that reliably. Shells from the A-20, Pz38nA, M5 and occasionally T-50 will bounce on the front, that's all you can hope for, and those are the only enemies save for arty that you should be hit by if you play this thing like the pro I'm not.

Mobility____________________________________________________________________________________
It's a BDR G1B with a smaller turret and guns that would fit Tier 7 tanks, what do you expect? Sure it gets some more horsepowers, but big surprise, it is still not much more agile than the BDR, yet it doesn't need to turn quickly, it's not a dogfighter, it's a sniper, keeping up with a T-50 circling you isn't what the V39 is designed for, it's designed to turn around fast enough to keep up with a T-50 300+m away.

Radio range________________________________________________________________________________
Enough to let you reach from the right upper corner to the left upper corner on any map no matter what radio your teammate in the other corner has (We're talking about the teammate tanks your MM allows you to meet, a Loltraktor is not one of those) If somebody spots a target, you will know about it.

Guns______________________________________________________________________________________
There's really just two options here, 90mm model 1945 and the 105mm trollgun from the bathtub.
90mm "swisscheesifier" has Swisscheesifying penetration, good accuracy and above-average aim time.
105mm has not quite as high penetration or accuracy, but it dishes out more DPM with a shorter aim time.

IMO the DCA 45 is the best choice since this tank should fight over long distances where accuracy, pen and shell velocity is all that matters, and at long range the drawback of the poor gun traverse should be a little less of a drawback.

The 105 does however deal more DPM, and has shorter aim time, which also helps against the poor gun traverse to some extent, while still providing the penetration needed for most targets the V39 might face. It's a matter of how you like to play.

The two bad things__________________________________________________________________________

Poor gun traverse and long aim time. A deadly combination for every TD, and it is what saves the V39 from the "OP-whine threads", and sends it into the "Plz-buff-this-POS threads".
In a TD, whenever you move your hull, your aim goes bananas, to solve this, you must stop and aim, which takes time. The killing blow to the V39 is the poor gun traverse.

When you spot a target and decide to shoot it, you stop and take aim. If the target is moving to your left or right, then you must keep your gun pointed at them while aiming, THE TD, Marder II that is, has such a brilliantly designed gun mount that it can turn its gun ~45 degrees to either side, allowing it to follow any target in front of it no matter how the target moves, to the point where the target is just a few meters away and about to start circling the Marder.
The aim time of the Marder II is similar to the V39, but the Marder doesn't need to repos whenever the target moves a little to the left or right, meaning the player doesn't need to turn around>aim doesn't go bananas>player doesn't have to wait for the aim to go normal>player can spend more time shooting at the traget than aiming at the target>greater chance of hitting>more credits and xp+ greater chance of victory which buffs XP and credit income further.

The V39 does not have the same gun mount.
Instead your enemy will have your nose pointing wherever he/she wants your nose to be pointing and in the case of a T-50, you are utterly doomed as you will be forced to reposition your hull so soon after you stopped to take aim, that your gunner will never be able to get aim right, you'll be stuck with a two-thirds closed recticle before you need to repos. Your only chance is to stay hidden, which your gun traverse makes impossible too since you lose both your camo net and binocs when you have to repos as the enemy moves around.

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TL;DR: The V39 is Just fine, save for one little feature, the gun traverse, which force you to repos every five seconds, meaning your gunner never gets done aiming, and with the odd habit of shooting as if they were drunk that the French gunners have even when done aiming, being unable to finish aiming quite litterally turns this vehicle into a classic failtank.

It has enough speed, it has enough armour, it has the best radio money can buy at the Tier, it has good reload, average camo, good accuracy, exccellent penetration, it just can't ever stop long enough to both aim and fire.

Either stop, aim, move on.
Or stop, fire, move on.
You make the choice, just remember not to let anything get closer than 200m, because they'll spot you if they get closer, and when you're tracked in this thing, no matter where, your options are:
1. Use repair kit, move half a foot and get blown into low orbit by arty.
2. Write "Goodbye everyone" in the chat.
Edited by Dreadmau5, 18 December 2012 - 02:04 PM.

DCA 45 AC is best td gun in tier VI td's ,with it's potential penetration of 212mm or something.dmg 240 is good also. And lol , when some tier VII tank comes to shoot you behind the corner and see your long 90mm, lol. they get scared. coz they know. every hit penetrates and makes damage. (ok some shots go maybe bounce) .
i like arl v39 very much , but it's armor ain't that good. u learn to play with it , but sometimes u still go and want to take that "shot" into enemy tank. :D