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posthumecaver #41 Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:50 PM

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Before the nerfs it was an awesome tank after the nerfs it is no fun.....

To say the truth that 100mm doesn't belong to Tier 8....I grinded with 100 mm to BatChat but now actually I am playing with 90mm it is more then enough for Tier 8

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I dont mind the reload time, and I realize the armor is paper on this tank, even more so then any other tier 8 medium. That fact combined with a model nearly as big as a Tiger 2 then you have problems, in that regard its very much like the E-50. But what really is killing it for me is the shitty aim time  and gun depression. Try and traverse any thing higher then a beer can and you cant hit fuck all with out having to do all sort of turning and twisting of your hull and there by exposing your self more then you should.

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View PostJack_Sparroxx, on 10 July 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

.......and gun depression. Try and traverse any thing higher then a beer can and you cant hit fuck all with out having to do all sort of turning and twisting of your hull and there by exposing your self more then you should.
I just notice today one thing on it...  you know that part of turret below cannon that is "cut", so that cannon can go lover then turret ring allows it? Well, that part in this game is useless...
Check this out:
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Jack_Sparroxx #44 Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:33 AM

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well tanks is a FPS shooter with tank skins, not a simulator. If I wanted to play a good simulator I'd be playing Steelbeasts. Any ways we all know that WG version of what ever tank dont really live up to it's RL proformence. Tiger and M18 springs to mind. So I'm not too surprised about the V-cut thingy you showed.

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View Postkoberko, on 10 July 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

I just notice today one thing on it...  you know that part of turret below cannon that is "cut", so that cannon can go lover then turret ring allows it? Well, that part in this game is useless...
Check this out:
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Yep, IRL the gun depression/elevation of the Lorraine was -8°/+15°.
Ingame it was nerfed to -6°/+11°.

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Just another nerfbat consequences that did not chance the whiner's opinions, and only made it more annoying to play.

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View PostSouroy, on 11 July 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

Yep, IRL the gun depression/elevation of the Lorraine was -8°/+15°.
Ingame it was nerfed to -6°/+11°.

before the nerf pretty much all french tanks had the 8° gun depression, but a horrible upper inclination of the gun... after the "fix" they still had a crap upper inclination and now also a crap depression...

Hope with the level increase the restore the original values....

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View PostX101, on 18 June 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

And what you get for it 3.4 sec  shoots how is this advantage?

The reload is bearable but I agree the time between shots is just 0,2s=>0,4s to long indeed. Slightly less time would be good.

But I'll wait until it moves to Tier 9 in the next patch to see how it handles then...

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Was in a game where a e-100 was paired with a Loltracktor, The Loltraktor was happily shooting every one at the start as he thought he could not damage anyone. I had to ask him to stop after he damaged me Lorraine in a nutshell :)

Tried it on test server and it seams well out of its depth at tier 9 :(

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Here is commparison of depression in Lorraine tier 8 (patch 0.7.4), and tier 9 (patch 0.7.5):
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So, no changes on that issue....

Update: and just to add some stats comparison:
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Edited by koberko, 13 July 2012 - 06:53 AM.


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View PostSouroy, on 11 July 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

Yep, IRL the gun depression/elevation of the Lorraine was -8°/+15°.
Ingame it was nerfed to -6°/+11°.
Actually, minus (depression) is more -5° then - 6°... And it has enough space to go even to -13°, -14°
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P.S. Regarding reload time, tier 9 Lorraine reloads all 6 bullets in 38:31 sec, and between bullets, reload time is 2:73 sec.

Edited by koberko, 13 July 2012 - 04:13 AM.


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I have posted my impressions of Lorraine in 0.7.5 in separate topic:
http://forum.worldof...orraine-in-075/

Edited by koberko, 13 July 2012 - 06:58 AM.


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View Postkoberko, on 13 July 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

P.S. Regarding reload time, tier 9 Lorraine reloads all 6 bullets in 38:31 sec, and between bullets, reload time is 2:73 sec.

well, actual rld time with the long 90 is the very same, so you just got a 100mm replacing the 90mm with the very same tank beyond it.


i started playing it before it got nerfed but i kept on. I havent felt a real big change, apart of the rld but that was just iirc ~34 to 38.3 (37.5 for BIA) sec.

I managed to end my grind for batchat today...
180 games (124 wins - 69%)
352 frags (makes it nearly 2 per battle and 3.8 kills per death)
1001 avg xp and bit over 2000 as max
played 100% in random and 90% as single wolf without platoon!

its pure devastation....!!! will miss the tank and look forward to more fun with batmobile

Edited by L3gi, 15 July 2012 - 12:57 AM.


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View Postpapasouzas, on 18 June 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:



I guess i'll have to suffer this grind for sake of the epic batchat...
Batchat isn't EPIC, not until u learn how to play it ;)

hazzin #55 Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:43 AM

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Damn and I thought that I and T34 together was bad. Lorraine is just awful. I tried really hard to enjoy this tank. I've already come to this thread several times, but I always said to myself that I will give it one more chance, that I will try to change my playstyle. But now after being owned by T5 Pz III/IV, I have enough. First shell - "that didn't go through", second - miss, third - miss, fourth - penetration, 0 damage, fifth - Pz tracked, 0 damage, sixth - penetration, he lost 59% (IIRC) health. In the meantime he penetrated every shot and he was the entire time on the move. I tried to run, but too slow for that. Result - dead. I own Pershing, so I'm no stranger to T8 meds. I love Pershing. Best tank in the game. He outclasses Lorraine in almost everything. Lorraine can't snipe effectively, can't brawl, peekaboo fight. It has its speed and revolver (but that is advantage only when you can hit your target and do some damage). I had a few good battles, but most are meh. I got one-shotted often. I played Prokhorovka assault on the defending team. I was closely hugging the railway embankment, got hit by arty, so I've decided to change position and had gone to the other flank. In the meantime I dodged several arty shells. They were really intent on killing me, I don't know why. I did the same, closely hugged the embankment and got hit by other arty, dead. There were a plenty of targets, but no, it had to be me. I guess it's because Lorraine is easy to one-shot even with T6 arty. As an artilleryman i too often look for them on the battlefield. I don't know. I like amx 13 90, good tank and if I haven't play batchat on test server and hadn't know how good he is, I would stop the grind. And imho the buff that Lorraine gets in new patch is not enough. This tank will be almost unplayable on T9. Some advice? Replays? I would especially appreciate replays where you are playing alone, not platoons.

Miixa #56 Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:54 AM

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Is this thread a joke? This is just hilariously sad reading and makes me totally lose all the remaining hope for the community. I just can't believe this topic even exists and people are whining about on the best tanks in the game.Seriously, LEARN TO PLAY.

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View PostL3gi, on 15 July 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

well, actual rld time with the long 90 is the very same, so you just got a 100mm replacing the 90mm with the very same tank beyond it.


i started playing it before it got nerfed but i kept on. I havent felt a real big change, apart of the rld but that was just iirc ~34 to 38.3 (37.5 for BIA) sec.

I managed to end my grind for batchat today...
180 games (124 wins - 69%)
352 frags (makes it nearly 2 per battle and 3.8 kills per death)
1001 avg xp and bit over 2000 as max
played 100% in random and 90% as single wolf without platoon!

its pure devastation....!!! will miss the tank and look forward to more fun with batmobile

Did you use any free xp for modules or did you grind everything? Becouse i just got lorraine yesterday and its pretty horrible when stock. I bought the second gun with free xp, so its a bit better, but still not as fun as 13 90.

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View PostMiixa, on 16 July 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Is this thread a joke? This is just hilariously sad reading and makes me totally lose all the remaining hope for the community. I just can't believe this topic even exists and people are whining about on the best tanks in the game.Seriously, LEARN TO PLAY.
Not as big as you are. Have a minus, my friend.

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View Posthazzin, on 16 July 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

Not as big as you are. Have a minus, my friend.

Oh, that really hurts. It's nice to see you can atleast fight on forums because obviously you have no clue how to play this game or atleast Lorraine :D

Edited by Miixa, 16 July 2012 - 11:59 AM.


Gmop #60 Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:05 PM

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Took me a long to start liking this tank, when I first got 100 mm, I didn't like it and couldn't get used to the long reload. Then after a while the 90 mm didn't do it for me any more, not enough penetration and damage. I switched back to the 100 mm and the tank took off. I was performing so much better with the same gun I hated a little before, my play style had changed.

I always started in a far back snipping position, because the 100mm will penetrade a lot, then reload and move forward if your team does or stay put if they are being pushed back and support them. For me starting as a TD and then switching to vulture mode worked best for me.



View Posthazzin, on 16 July 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Damn and I thought that I and T34 together was bad. Lorraine is just awful. I tried really hard to enjoy this tank. I've already come to this thread several times, but I always said to myself that I will give it one more chance, that I will try to change my playstyle. But now after being owned by T5 Pz III/IV, I have enough. First shell - "that didn't go through", second - miss, third - miss, fourth - penetration, 0 damage, fifth - Pz tracked, 0 damage, sixth - penetration, he lost 59% (IIRC) health. In the meantime he penetrated every shot and he was the entire time on the move. I tried to run, but too slow for that. Result - dead. I own Pershing, so I'm no stranger to T8 meds. I love Pershing. Best tank in the game. He outclasses Lorraine in almost everything. Lorraine can't snipe effectively, can't brawl, peekaboo fight. It has its speed and revolver (but that is advantage only when you can hit your target and do some damage). I had a few good battles, but most are meh. I got one-shotted often. I played Prokhorovka assault on the defending team. I was closely hugging the railway embankment, got hit by arty, so I've decided to change position and had gone to the other flank. In the meantime I dodged several arty shells. They were really intent on killing me, I don't know why. I did the same, closely hugged the embankment and got hit by other arty, dead. There were a plenty of targets, but no, it had to be me. I guess it's because Lorraine is easy to one-shot even with T6 arty. As an artilleryman i too often look for them on the battlefield. I don't know. I like amx 13 90, good tank and if I haven't play batchat on test server and hadn't know how good he is, I would stop the grind. And imho the buff that Lorraine gets in new patch is not enough. This tank will be almost unplayable on T9. Some advice? Replays? I would especially appreciate replays where you are playing alone, not platoons.





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