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Tiger Tank and King Tiger Tank Speed.

Poll: Tiger Tank and King Tiger Tank Speed. (174 )

Should the Tiger Tank receive its historical accurate speed?

  1. Yes. (162 [93.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 93.10%

  2. No. (12 [6.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.90%

How do you think this change would affect the Tank and Game?

  1. It would be Overpowered. (5 [2.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.40%

  2. It would be Balanced. (90 [43.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.27%

  3. If it could be Balanced well I would agree to this change. (29 [13.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.94%

  4. It would be a unique type of tank much like the IS-8. (20 [9.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.62%

  5. I think the speed would make up for the tanks armour and gun. (57 [27.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.40%

  6. Other... (Please state in post) (7 [3.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.37%

Should the King Tiger Tank receive its historical accurate speed?

  1. Yes. (156 [89.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 89.66%

  2. No. (18 [10.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.34%

How do you think this change would affect the Tank and Game?

  1. It would be Overpowered. (17 [8.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.54%

  2. It would be Balanced. (84 [42.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.21%

  3. If it could be Balanced out nicely I would agree to this change. (38 [19.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.10%

  4. The speed would make up for the tanks thin side armour and high profile. (55 [27.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.64%

  5. Other... (Please state in post) (5 [2.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.51%

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Iron_Funeral's Photo Iron_Funeral 30 Jun 2012

Not sure if 41 and 38km/h are needed but they could increase the current speeds by 5km/h, so it would be 32/33 and 34/35 I don't think it would hurt the balance at all, especially how every little spot is getting nerfed on the KT's front armor.
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Taturuman's Photo Taturuman 30 Jun 2012

hold on they are making them historically accurate that means the King Tiger will be around the same height as a Jumbo Sherman :D when will this happen? It would be great since KT in game is grossly oversized compared to its real life counterpart
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mr3awsome's Photo mr3awsome 30 Jun 2012

 Danny17, on 19 June 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Since the German tanks are getting "Historically Accurate" Re-Size why shouldn't they get their Historically Accurate Speed.

The Tiger Tank could achieve a top speed of roughly 38km/h but in game it can only achieve a maximum of 30km/h.

And the King Tiger could achieve a top speed of roughly 41km/h - 42km/h (Sources Vary) where as in game it can only achieve a maximum speed of 28km/h.

Do you think the Tiger tanks should have their historical speed or do you think this would make them unbalanced?

I do know this post has been done before in September 2010 many people have voted for the speed to be buffed, but as that was 2 years ago I want to know what people think now.
Overlord has said as far as he knows it won't happen
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Latorque's Photo Latorque 30 Jun 2012

My pessimistic guess is that there would be hell to pay for speed buffs at the next "rebalance". Gun nerfs; armor nerfs, Ammorack outside of the turret, you name it. Speed is nice, but there wasn't a single german tank i drove for its speed so far...

So i'd prefer the speed not to be historical.
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Danny17's Photo Danny17 04 Jul 2012

 Iron_Funeral, on 30 June 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Not sure if 41 and 38km/h are needed but they could increase the current speeds by 5km/h, so it would be 32/33 and 34/35 I don't think it would hurt the balance at all, especially how every little spot is getting nerfed on the KT's front armor.

To be honest I would like the Top speed but I would be happy if they did increase the speed just by 5km/h it probably would make a hell of a difference.

 Taturuman, on 30 June 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

hold on they are making them historically accurate that means the King Tiger will be around the same height as a Jumbo Sherman :D when will this happen? It would be great since KT in game is grossly oversized compared to its real life counterpart

I would like to see this happen WG have been presented with a Picture showing the two together and they look roughly the same size perhaps the KT was a slight bit bigger.

 mr3awsome, on 30 June 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Overlord has said as far as he knows it won't happen

Shame really, the speed buff or even a decrease in size to the King Tiger would help it out making it a smaller target and its weak spots smaller, I know both would probably be appreciated by the majority of King Tiger drivers out their.

And I assume the slight speed buff to the Tiger would help it out to.

 Latorque, on 30 June 2012 - 11:23 PM, said:

My pessimistic guess is that there would be hell to pay for speed buffs at the next "rebalance". Gun nerfs; armor nerfs, Ammorack outside of the turret, you name it. Speed is nice, but there wasn't a single german tank i drove for its speed so far...

So i'd prefer the speed not to be historical.

Well the King Tiger's Armour is already weak as it is most shells seem to get through various places with ease such as the Lower Plate, Driver Port, MG Port, Commanders Hatch indeed they are weak spots but they have been made huge. Though if angled well you can bounce a number of shots.

The Tiger Tank doesn't have sloped armour so most shells are getting through that with ease so the Speed would help it move around and be able to get out of the way of shells a little quicker.

Really? I think the Speed helps a number of tanks such as Panzer III, Panzer III/IV, Panther etc... Sure these are Medium tanks but to be honest I personally think it would help the Tiger out a fair bit perhaps its because of my play style in it but I still think it would be a welcome buff.
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Latorque's Photo Latorque 04 Jul 2012

 Danny17, on 04 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

Well the King Tiger's Armour is already weak as it is most shells seem to get through various places with ease such as the Lower Plate, Driver Port, MG Port, Commanders Hatch indeed they are weak spots but they have been made huge. Though if angled well you can bounce a number of shots.

The Tiger Tank doesn't have sloped armour so most shells are getting through that with ease so the Speed would help it move around and be able to get out of the way of shells a little quicker.

Really? I think the Speed helps a number of tanks such as Panzer III, Panzer III/IV, Panther etc... Sure these are Medium tanks but to be honest I personally think it would help the Tiger out a fair bit perhaps its because of my play style in it but I still think it would be a welcome buff.

Of course; i wouldn't say no to the speed buff either :Smile_Default: . But being a live witness to the crimes against the E-75; i'm more than a little suspicious towards WG and their stance on the german tank tree - as i said; i wouldn't accept the buff without a healthy dose of fear of "balancing" nerfs to even it out. And in its current form, the Tiger II still has a very nice gun and decent armor (not invincible, but decent).
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LordError94's Photo LordError94 04 Jul 2012

Don't forget that the KT should be slightly shorter than an M4, though wider.
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DJ_Die's Photo DJ_Die 04 Jul 2012

KT shouldnt be shorter that M4 it however should be just about the same height:
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so thats about that KT and E8 in game and in reality :)
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janiV7xXx's Photo janiV7xXx 27 Aug 2012

Tiger had a great fast Reloading speed also take a look at the history, where the Tiges are in the battleground they causes it some Fear ,also many best aces comes from the Tiger tanks :) Bhope they fix the accurate settings with Real one ,, ps! anyway my last 87 battles / 101 killed enemy tanks not bad at all with Tiger :D
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Danny17's Photo Danny17 07 Sep 2012

 DJ_Die, on 04 July 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

KT shouldnt be shorter that M4 it however should be just about the same height:
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so thats about that KT and E8 in game and in reality :)

This also needs sorting in some way, the picture just says everything and what I noticed is the Tiger II's lower plate looks well more sloped than it is in the game.

As well as both the Tiger and King Tiger getting their historical speed making them a worthy tier 7 and 8. :Smile_honoring:
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Spiediens's Photo Spiediens 07 Sep 2012

 Danny17, on 07 September 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

This also needs sorting in some way, the picture just says everything and what I noticed is the Tiger II's lower plate looks well more sloped than it is in the game.

As well as both the Tiger and King Tiger getting their historical speed making them a worthy tier 7 and 8. :Smile_honoring:
Thats because the IG King tiger is "streched" out a bit, making the angle on the LFP less, and making it bigger while you're at it.
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Epicolor's Photo Epicolor 08 Sep 2012

 DJ_Die, on 04 July 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

KT shouldnt be shorter that M4 it however should be just about the same height:


so thats about that KT and E8 in game and in reality

On this picture the TigerII have no snow under it, while the M4 is standing on some about 15cm of depressed snow.
Edited by Epicolor, 08 September 2012 - 08:37 PM.
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