Europe Tech Tree. Planned Medium tanks [Fr...
Kazomir
28 Jun 2012
Tupinambis, on 27 June 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:
Unfortunately the T-25 is already in game. Excellent tree none the less though!
So will be the churchill in the british tree when it comes out.
Do i need to remind you that Pz 735(f), the tier 2 german premium is the same as Hotchkiss H35, but a version captured by the germans? When the H35 was included in the french tech tree, the 735(f), its german counterpart was taken down from the store.
camelurso
28 Jun 2012
a researchable and upgradable T-25, better than the premium version, which IMHO is amongst the 3 best tier 5s... I'm really looking forward to it
Sotahullu
28 Jun 2012
I think that M13/40 and M14/41 (no diffrence here) will be tier 3 and M15/42 is Tier 4.
Why you ask? Well M15/42 was little diffrent and Italians had plan to upgrade it's gun to more powerful one. Maybe 57mm gun if I remember correctly.
Why you ask? Well M15/42 was little diffrent and Italians had plan to upgrade it's gun to more powerful one. Maybe 57mm gun if I remember correctly.
i_was_here_97
29 Jun 2012
so there will be a non-premium version of my favourite tank, the T-25.
NikeRr
03 Jul 2012
YugoManiac, on 27 June 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:
here it is my first "European (Medium) Tech Tree"
And a link with all the photos resize and named. so you can make one yourself
any suggestions? (I feel we need more Polish tanks
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And a link with all the photos resize and named. so you can make one yourself
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any suggestions? (I feel we need more Polish tanks
Polish tanks
1. Light tanks :
a) TKS ( Tier I / II )
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b) PZlnż 4 TP ( Tier II )
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c) PZlnż 130 ( Tier II / III )
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d) PZlnż 7TP ( Tier III )
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e) PZlnż 9TP ( Tier III / IV )
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2. Medium tanks:
a) PZlnż 10TP ( Tier III / IV )
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b) PZlnż 14TP ( Tier IV )
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c) PZlnż 20/25 TP ( Tier V / VI )
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3. Tank destroyer
a) TKS-D (Tier II / III )
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4. Self propelled gun
a) TK-D ( Tier III )
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b) PZlnż 160 ( Tier IV )
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And comparison of tanks Polish, Soviet and British.
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Edited by NikeRr, 05 July 2012 - 10:17 AM.
Skalski
03 Jul 2012
Most of those are way too high on the tree. How about:
http://i.imgur.com/VNBTJ.jpg
why? 1st, the TKS would be far too weak as a t2 TD. a 20mm automatic or short 37mm are the best weapons applicable for it. A TKS-D is on the other hand good t2 TD material - very small and hopefully with a 47mm AT gun. The 7tp and 4tp are both good t2 candidates. Weight, armament and the positioning of the T-26 are all good argument. per analogiam the next tiers. A 10tp is about the same thing as a BT7, one of the 20/25tp is the same thing as the t-28.
http://i.imgur.com/VNBTJ.jpg
why? 1st, the TKS would be far too weak as a t2 TD. a 20mm automatic or short 37mm are the best weapons applicable for it. A TKS-D is on the other hand good t2 TD material - very small and hopefully with a 47mm AT gun. The 7tp and 4tp are both good t2 candidates. Weight, armament and the positioning of the T-26 are all good argument. per analogiam the next tiers. A 10tp is about the same thing as a BT7, one of the 20/25tp is the same thing as the t-28.
Xindox
05 Jul 2012
NikeRr, on 03 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:
Polish tanks
c) PZlnż 20/25 TP ( Tier V / VI )
c) PZlnż 20/25 TP ( Tier V / VI )
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mr3awsome
05 Jul 2012
it might not be the right tank but
there were three designs for the 20/25 TP
Edited by mr3awsome, 11 July 2012 - 04:33 PM.
there were three designs for the 20/25 TP
Edited by mr3awsome, 11 July 2012 - 04:33 PM.
Skalski
05 Jul 2012
It's a shopped cromwell/Comet with a T-34/85 turret and some funny muzzle brake.
there were three designs for a Polish medium tank - two multi-turreted and very similar to one another (KSUS and BBTB) and one far more progressive by PZInż - one turret, a long 75mm gun (50ish calibers) and a good amount of sloped armor. The former two didn't differ much (just propulsion and armament) and in ingame terms, they might as well be meshed into one tier4 med/heavy about equal to a T-28. The PZInż design though would be a tier 5 similar to a T-34, but more sluggish, better-armored and possbily armed too.
there were three designs for a Polish medium tank - two multi-turreted and very similar to one another (KSUS and BBTB) and one far more progressive by PZInż - one turret, a long 75mm gun (50ish calibers) and a good amount of sloped armor. The former two didn't differ much (just propulsion and armament) and in ingame terms, they might as well be meshed into one tier4 med/heavy about equal to a T-28. The PZInż design though would be a tier 5 similar to a T-34, but more sluggish, better-armored and possbily armed too.
Xindox
05 Jul 2012
That picture comes from an "alternate history" website... I already deleted it from English Wikipedia.
jakub_czyli_ja
28 Jul 2012
Brave idea to put 7TP which is comparable to 2nd tier T-26 on 3rd tier.
nafnist
29 Jul 2012
I have an idea for T10 medium for Europe ... hehe
Leopard 1 DK

http://www.armyvehic.../leopard1a3.htm
/wakes from nice dream
Leopard 1 DK

http://www.armyvehic.../leopard1a3.htm
/wakes from nice dream
NebukadnezarII
31 Jul 2012
those polish tank... most of them are ingame in some way or totally fictional,without even paperproject evidence... but that hasnt stopped wg from putting in the t28 and t28 proto
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the 7tp is basically a t26,the 10tp is basically a bt7, and about that 14 tp...i couldnt find any "non" polish sites with pictures of it...however it looks so damn long that it would be throwing of its tracks every 10 kilometres if they were still the same as on the 10tp its supposed to be based on...
i understand that the polish players want their tanks ingame but seriously...they are no real addition to the game
edit: haha -1 already XD i knew it...
2nd edit: hey guys, how about saying why you disagree rather than"-" me...doesnt really help your case, its not like i dont care about other peoples opinions
Edited by NebukadnezarII, 31 July 2012 - 02:33 PM.
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the 7tp is basically a t26,the 10tp is basically a bt7, and about that 14 tp...i couldnt find any "non" polish sites with pictures of it...however it looks so damn long that it would be throwing of its tracks every 10 kilometres if they were still the same as on the 10tp its supposed to be based on...
i understand that the polish players want their tanks ingame but seriously...they are no real addition to the game
edit: haha -1 already XD i knew it...
2nd edit: hey guys, how about saying why you disagree rather than"-" me...doesnt really help your case, its not like i dont care about other peoples opinions
Edited by NebukadnezarII, 31 July 2012 - 02:33 PM.
Szabolcs85
31 Jul 2012
NebukadnezarII, on 31 July 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:
those polish tank... most of them are ingame in some way or totally fictional,without even paperproject evidence... but that hasnt stopped wg from putting in the t28 and t28 proto
.
the 7tp is basically a t26,the 10tp is basically a bt7, and about that 14 tp...i couldnt find any "non" polish sites with pictures of it...however it looks so damn long that it would be throwing of its tracks every 10 kilometres if they were still the same as on the 10tp its supposed to be based on...
i understand that the polish players want their tanks ingame but seriously...they are no real addition to the game
edit: haha -1 already XD i knew it...
2nd edit: hey guys, how about saying why you disagree rather than"-" me...doesnt really help your case, its not like i dont care about other peoples opinions
.
the 7tp is basically a t26,the 10tp is basically a bt7, and about that 14 tp...i couldnt find any "non" polish sites with pictures of it...however it looks so damn long that it would be throwing of its tracks every 10 kilometres if they were still the same as on the 10tp its supposed to be based on...
i understand that the polish players want their tanks ingame but seriously...they are no real addition to the game
edit: haha -1 already XD i knew it...
2nd edit: hey guys, how about saying why you disagree rather than"-" me...doesnt really help your case, its not like i dont care about other peoples opinions
Here's a reply.
-Neither Polish tanks are in-game.
-If it has "paper-project" evidence, why shouldn't it be in the game? Just because it only existed in paper, it still can be fun. Besides, we all like to learn about new tank types.
-Polish tank designs are not related to Soviet designs, the Christie-suspension is the only real similarity.
-It's not just Polish people who would want Polish tanks in the game. (I'm, for example, Hungarian and I'd very much like to have some Polish tanks in my hangar.)
-Polish tanks actually WOULD be a great addition to the game, not just for Polish players. Each and every tank that existed (even as a mere project) between 1910 and 1960 should be in the game.















