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Poll: Wargaming's lies and mistakes and improvements (hope you will learn after this WG) (78 members have cast votes)

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are WG's claims just lies?

  1. yes (47 votes [60.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.26%

  2. idk (11 votes [14.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.10%

  3. no (20 votes [25.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.64%

would you like them to stop lying and making fools of themselves?

  1. yes (58 votes [74.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.36%

  2. idk (6 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  3. no (14 votes [17.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.95%

would you help wargaming in some way?

  1. yes (49 votes [62.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.82%

  2. idk (16 votes [20.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.51%

  3. no (13 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

should they reimplement tanks?

  1. yes (46 votes [58.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.97%

  2. idk (22 votes [28.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.21%

  3. no (10 votes [12.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.82%

should they listen to the community more?

  1. yes (65 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

  2. idk (4 votes [5.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.13%

  3. no (9 votes [11.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.54%

is Wargaming.net biased at the moment?

  1. yes (44 votes [56.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.41%

  2. idk (13 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  3. no (21 votes [26.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

should they stop being biased?

  1. yes (49 votes [62.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.82%

  2. idk (14 votes [17.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.95%

  3. no (15 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

how many times have you heard them say "working as intended"

  1. more than i can count (34 votes [43.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.59%

  2. too much (15 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

  3. quite a bit (7 votes [8.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.97%

  4. sometimes (7 votes [8.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.97%

  5. rarely (8 votes [10.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.26%

  6. never heard of it (7 votes [8.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.97%

any other things you can help them with? (if answer is either yes or no post the reason))

  1. yes (20 votes [25.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.64%

  2. idk (47 votes [60.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.26%

  3. no (11 votes [14.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.10%

who got the real power here?

  1. Wargaming.net (57 votes [73.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.08%

  2. Admin and moderators (7 votes [8.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.97%

  3. The Community and Consumers (us) (14 votes [17.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.95%

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John_Armfeldt #1 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:13 PM

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as the title says we all know that sadly WG has had the habit of lying or bending facts or simply make things up.

we all know the only ones getting hurt from lies in the end are the liars themselves.

this is to be a post where we post their facts and line up facts from other sources, iow this post is criticism but constructive such.

like any post flaming, derailing or going offtopic in this one is not allowed.

give constructive criticism and complaints, also you can tell things they could improve here but the likelyhood of them ever seeing this post is less than 0.0000000000000003%, but atleast it is not complete 0, and they just might take a look.

Phooca #2 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:15 PM

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You seem to love the world Biased , maybe it has a strong meaning for you


And even if they are biased , I'm not saying they are , the QQing on the bigger russian forums about germans being better would dwarf the complaints on this forum about how supposedly the russians are better

Jukelo #3 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:17 PM

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Since, like all of you, I dont know much about any of the matters at hand, I abstained from voting in that obviously biaised poll.

John_Armfeldt #4 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:18 PM

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i won't hide it that i honestly am biased to german tanks, but if i were developing in WG i would put this personal oppinion aside to make a game everyone could enjoy.

having an invincible tank which can oneshot and be invisible even from 20m is no fun, the feeling of being vulnerable adds a lot to the fun in playing imho.

wholeheartedly i want this game to be enjoyable by everyone or by as many as possible, i am saying this on a clear consience.

Channel911 #5 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:19 PM

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Well, i do think they should listen to the community a bit more, even if many things the community says are just the product of whining and poor brains.

But my question iis: what is the aim of this poll? Yeah, i answered. But it isn't structured so as to actually give some outcome, so...

Please explain why you did this poll exactly, and how you think it can be useful, cause right now i don't, and can't, see it.

migrater #6 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:20 PM

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I've got the feeling that the EU community needs a bit more attention, but it's their game...
If they think the balance of some tanks should be that way or this way, they need to do it their way.

The community always likes to play the OP tanks, the ones who don't have that tank complain.
Either way, there will always someone in the community complaining about it. Who says a group of let's say 10 guys represent the whole community?

Their ideas are good, but there is still a lot of work on the execution.

Edited by migrater, 26 June 2012 - 04:21 PM.


Murphy1up #7 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:22 PM

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View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 26 June 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

the likelyhood of them ever seeing this post is less than 0.0000000000000003%, but atleast it is not complete 0, and they just might take a look.

I see everything. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men....

John_Armfeldt #8 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM

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the goal of this poll is to see actually how the community feels towards WG, atm it is "like them and want to help them"

2 of the topics much discussed which they've received complaints and criticism are the E-100 HT and TD.

i hope one or several of you gentlemen and ladies can first line up their facts and the facts from others, whom are trustworthy historians, military and mechanical experts.

J4nitor #9 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:29 PM

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View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 26 June 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

the goal of this poll is to see actually how the community feels towards WG, atm it is "like them and want to help them"
Then maybe you should have it designed more... well, less one sided? Pretty useless to have to answer the question 2 if your answer to 1 is no.... just for example... likewise 6 and 7...

As it is, its just another single minded "I dont like how WG handles things, whos with me, let us be heard for we carry the torch of truth blabla" thread. Awesome and very neutral title btw... :Smile_sceptic:

Edited by J4nitor, 26 June 2012 - 04:32 PM.


John_Armfeldt #10 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:36 PM

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View PostJ4nitor, on 26 June 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Then maybe you should have it designed more... well, less one sided? Pretty useless to have to answer the question 2 if your answer to 1 is no.... just for example... likewise 6 and 7...

As it is, its just another single minded "I dont like how WG handles things, whos with me, let us be heard for we carry the torch of truth blabla" thread. Awesome and very neutral title btw... :Smile_sceptic:

i am sorry if the topic came out looking that way, i like wargaming but i want them to just do things better, that's all.

if they need to ban me for improving the game, so be it as long as everyone else can get a much more enjoyable time with Wargaming's  World of franchise.

no one will grieve me if i leave, since i honestly just want to help the community and WG, saying that i hate them is an insult graver than death to me.

J4nitor #11 Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:43 PM

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View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 26 June 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

i am sorry if the topic came out looking that way,
Honestly, what did you expect by phrasing things they way you did?

View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 26 June 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

if they need to ban me for improving the game, so be it as long as everyone else can get a much more enjoyable time with Wargaming's  World of franchise.
Given the sheer number of players one might think some people actually enjoy the game as it is... There is always room for improvement but this "end of days" state of mind is getting tiresome.

View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 26 June 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

no one will grieve me if i leave, since i honestly just want to help the community and WG, saying that i hate them is an insult graver than death to me.
Nobody stated you hate them. Besides that: Your martyrattitude is very dramatic, I'm sure someone will find it fancy even if it's unnecessary and way over the top. ;)

Edited by J4nitor, 26 June 2012 - 04:43 PM.


Phooca #12 Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:12 PM

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View PostEctar, on 26 June 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:



I see everything. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men....


Creepy ............ :P

XSonnyk5 #13 Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:22 PM

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View PostEctar, on 26 June 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I see everything. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men....

WG's employees are in Nights watch, eh? That's interesting. :P

Cuddly_Spider #14 Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:32 PM

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View PostEctar, on 26 June 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I see everything. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men....

I had a girlfriend like that once. She wore a lot of black and carried a riding crop.

"who got the real power here?"

WG have, and they should. The day this game is developed by a cabal of angry forum users all demanding one thing one day and then the opposite thing the next (new game modes anyone?) rather than professional game developers is the day it will really start to turn into an unholy mess.

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View PostCuddly_Spider, on 26 June 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

WG have, and they should. The day this game is developed by a cabal of angry forum users all demanding one thing one day and then the opposite thing the next (new game modes anyone?) rather than professional game developers is the day it will really start to turn into an unholy mess.

Start?

WG's biggest mistake thus far has been the new game mode (rather HOW they where implemented) - which has near as I can tell is a direct result of listening to the customer. (Personally I wasn't bothered by grinding in 'standard' battles!)

There second biggest mistake is there 'customer support' aka WG support. They do the exact opposite - and never listen to what the customer is saying (I'm still waiting for a gold package after 2 months) -

its a terrible 1-2 combo of damned if you do damned if you don't - for everyone, including WG!

3rd: After a year of being 'live' WG is still making drastic and unrequested changes to their game. Everything from economics to how your screen is layed, and birds, lots of birds.

I think WG's focus is a little off atm...

EDIT: OT, that poll is pretty bad, and generally unhelpful.
For example, I've heard players who have no idea what they are talking about say 'working as intended' FAR MORE then WG actually ever has.
Does WG lie to us? Only about the little things like 2x credits being broken and being unable to make the new modes selectable.
Should they listen to the community more: Hell no, the community whines too much.  But they should be open to player feedback.

Edited by theghostcat, 26 June 2012 - 06:04 PM.


theta0123 #16 Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:20 PM

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My 2 biggest problems with WG=

The constant nerfing of US tanks (Overlord promised the M103 and T110 would NOT get nerfed, and they got nerfed very hard)
The deaf ear towards the community

Edited by theta0123, 26 June 2012 - 09:20 PM.


kaulam #17 Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:13 AM

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View PostEctar, on 26 June 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

I see everything. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men....

View PostXSonnyk5, on 26 June 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

WG's employees are in Nights watch, eh? That's interesting. :P

so there are only guys working for WG? *shudders at the thought of olga* :Smile_blinky:

deamy #18 Posted 27 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

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They should put me in charge and I'll get this stuff running in no time!




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