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John_Armfeldt #1 Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:34 AM

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this is my modern BB concept

ye it is a dream but atleast it is my dream.

Ishtar : type Super Battleship submersible

Displacement : 285.490 tonnes standard, 327.583. tonnes with full load

Armor : Classified

Propulsion : Classified

Top Speed : 32 knots

turning distance (at maxspeed for a complete U turn) : 78m

Length : 596.3m

Beam : 82.2m

Draft : 8.49m, 12.39m(fully load)

Range : Unlimited (fuel source takes 10 years to be depleted)

Complement : 4 captains 8 seconds 160 COs 480 NCO's sailors 6820

Armament : 6 turrets with 5 guns each, 6 quad mount turrets

           (56.8cm)
LRE-16 22.4 inch ALMPG L/74

Layout of the guns, four 5 mounts in bow and stern, 2 quads per side and one in the bow and one in the stern

4 quad mounts of 150mm UWMPC 56 L/58 guns (underwater guns) with two having a triple tubed 650mm torpedoes launcher and two having a dual countermeasure launcher

64 VLS in bow and stern, 28 in port and starboard.

30 dedicated AA multi use missile VLS around the ship

8 special VLS

32x128mm guns Multipurpose

46x88mm guns

20x57mm guns

50x40mm guns

several 30 and 20mm guns and also 13.5 and 15mm HMGs.

Aircraft : 5 helicopters 4 VTOLs 2 heavy defense jet fighters
Aircraft Facilities : 1 helicopter pad, one fighter pad and 1 VTOL pad.

Electronics, 2 Ishtar targeting systems (5600 targets simultaneously)

Atlantis Mk3 radar, Mercury Mk6 Underwater detector, Eagle Mk8 aerial interceptor, various other detection, jamming and stealth devices.

the main guns can be loaded with missiles, and all guns use a quadrifling compared to standard single or smoothbore.
it is impervious to torpedo attacks but if any nation still got BBs they would have been able to damage it.

it has Triarii and Hoplite AA kinetic multiple use missiles, (these missiles are designed to destroy the targets and then when done search for a new one and repeat)

due to it's size it has 3 mess halls and 3 briefing rooms, 6 showers, a gym, library, gaming room, a hospital in miniature (but with all the comforts a modern hospital would have) 4 clinics and a cinema.

The Ishtar is designed to be a peacekeeper rather than a warbringer, but in case a conflict is inevitable, it will become a warship.

the amount of ammunition for the guns and the number of torpedoes and missiles is unknown, but it is known that it does not carry and deliberately has been designed to not have nuclear capability.

instead it has 8 special VLS's for using a number of other weapons that are just as and more powerful than atomics, but avoiding the radiation althogether.

the ship has is also designed to allow it to both be stealthy and to easily submerge (cannot use main guns or the secondary guns and most VLS's except the 128mm MP and Triarii, Hoplite and the special launchers)

one such missile of insurmountable firepower is the X missile, which can be fire underwater and above, the missile either goes to extreme heights or below the surface and depending on approach will when close enough jump out of the water or crashdive on the target/s.

what follows then is detonation where the target/s is immersed in a half or full sphere of extreme heat and fire, 5 times hotter than the sun, this violent effect lasts for 2 minutes, but most targets will have evaporated or melted away within seconds, what is left is a big cloud (on ground and sea targets it has the distinct sponge shape that nuclear weapons leave after detonation).

the range of the main guns are unknown as they both use shells and missiles.

the cost of this ship is the same as the combined military spendings from the 5 greatest nations over 80 years, the upkeep is the same as 1/4 of the USN budget

worth it?, well do you want to try take it out?.

if anyone wanna do art of it go ahead, it is just one of those silly dreams some persons can have like me, i just wanted to tell you about it.

bURNeeg #2 Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:59 AM

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some has to get a sip of life :D

aGentleTanker #3 Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:04 AM

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no drawing? no blueprints?? :Smile_sceptic:


turning distance (at maxspeed for a complete U turn) : 78m
Length : 596.3m

Your dreams are very unrealistic

Edited by aGentleTanker, 29 June 2012 - 10:05 AM.


EvilOn3 #4 Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:25 AM

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Actualy his dream is posible since alot of ships can turn on the spot due to haveing azipods mounted on them,so he could actualy turn in that space.

Grand_Moff_Tano #5 Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:29 AM

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err, am i allowed to post my Dream Battleship here 2? hehe

John_Armfeldt #6 Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:38 AM

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View PostDemons_Bain, on 29 June 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:

err, am i allowed to post my Dream Battleship here 2? hehe

sure you can.

Grand_Moff_Tano #7 Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:12 PM

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Triton class Battleship
455 tons to 575.3 tons
Top Speed: 15.6 knots
Length: 1.2km
Beam: 156.32m
Draft: 12.4-14.95 Full
Range: Unlimited
Compliment: 1 Admiral, 1 Captain, 1 Second, 120 COs, 340 NCOs, 13,680 Crew and 3 Detachments of Marines
Armament: 5 Quadruplet 20 inch Guns
40 40mm Anti-Air Guns
16 Dual Multi-Purpose 90mm Cannons
130 25mm Cannons
6 SAM Systems
18 Anti-Ship Missile Systems
14 Anti-Missile Point-Defense Lasers
12 VTOL Interceptors
4 ASW Helicopters
6 Gunships

Edited by Demons_Bain, 29 June 2012 - 01:36 PM.


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View PostEvilOn3, on 29 June 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Actualy his dream is posible since alot of ships can turn on the spot due to haveing azipods mounted on them,so he could actualy turn in that space.
turn the spot while at maxspeed?
are these battleships on ouzter space? or the ones in water?

deamy #9 Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:41 PM

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View PostEvilOn3, on 29 June 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

Actualy his dream is posible since alot of ships can turn on the spot due to haveing azipods mounted on them,so he could actualy turn in that space.

Right, 600 meters. 200 000 tonnes at full speed (32 knots)? .....

Dream on.

DougHole #10 Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:12 PM

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The enemy won't see you coming in this. They will assume they have driven onto road, then when it is too late, special forces clamber out and your battleship is history

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Grand_Moff_Tano #11 Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

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View Postdeamy, on 29 June 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

Right, 600 meters. 200 000 tonnes at full speed (32 knots)? .....

Dream on.
I'd agree as the only way for it to possibly work is in the Anime world

John_Armfeldt #12 Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

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well ppl thought ships above 100 meters were impossible at one time and now we got giant of 500, care to explain that?.

you don't even know what kind of steering it has and you just assume from weight and size that it is impossible?, i say you need to wake up.

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View PostWolfgang_Kruger, on 29 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

well ppl thought ships above 100 meters were impossible at one time and now we got giant of 500, care to explain that?.

you don't even know what kind of steering it has and you just assume from weight and size that it is impossible?, i say you need to wake up.

You need to go to school.

Do you know how much energy it takes to turn that mass around?

deamy #14 Posted 30 June 2012 - 02:30 PM

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I've been kind enough.

Exactly what could this huge waste of money do that a small missile frigate could not?

.... nothing.


Better yet, for the same price you could get a proper fleet of a handful of destroyers, a pair of carriers, several frigates, submarines and support ships. Or several hundred aircraft that could do everything it could do, except better.

One 650 mm torpedo under the keel and it would sink like a brick.

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Try this simulator and see if it even floats in the first place: http://www.springsharp.com/

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there wont be any submersible ships in wob




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