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When are you going to fix german TD armor

Expandeux's Photo Expandeux 01 Jul 2012

People are complaining since the start of the the new patch about the non existant armor of the Jagtiger and Ferdinand   and still  they didn't even bothered to fix  it ..

As it wasn't enough they could be easily penetrated in the upper hull / lower hull   by tier 5 and above  now they get  penetrated even in the gun mantlet lovely ...


Prize for most incompetent development team is awarded to you .  Congrats    1 year with out doing anything besides adding new tanks and maps  while the game flourish on bugs and design problems.
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3nglish's Photo 3nglish 01 Jul 2012

The ninja strikes again :Smile_trollface-3:
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Steffenximus's Photo Steffenximus 01 Jul 2012

When are they gonna buff german tanks ? Never. But they buffed KV-4, as if it wasn't strong enough.
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Turisti_achtacht's Photo Turisti_achtacht 01 Jul 2012

Buff German tanks? WG will never ever gonna do that.
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Strv's Photo Strv 01 Jul 2012

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'Devs, i'm playing germun tankz and zey don't pwn! plz buff germun tankz and nurff all ze rest so i can pwn with my crooked hands!'

On the topic: somehow, not a single person on the forum complained about non-existent (virtually zero thickness in game models) armour of lower plate of T-34-85 and Chaffee, only about non-existent armour of Ferdi that given some brain for the driver easily bounces tier10 guns. L2P
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EickhardtSr's Photo EickhardtSr 01 Jul 2012

Hmm... My best guess would be when they are done counting money...
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 Strv, on 01 July 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

On the topic: somehow, not a single person on the forum complained about non-existent (virtually zero thickness in game models) armour of lower plate of T-34-85 and Chaffee, only about non-existent armour of Ferdi that given some brain for the driver easily bounces tier10 guns. L2P

You know that WG has stated that gun mantel on Ferdi and Jagdtiger is bugged after 0.7.4, so it doesn't have any armour at all... It's a game bug, not a "I wont to pound all other" request...
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Expandeux's Photo Expandeux 01 Jul 2012

 Strv, on 01 July 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

On the topic: somehow, not a single person on the forum complained about non-existent (virtually zero thickness in game models) armour of lower plate of T-34-85 and Chaffee, only about non-existent armour of Ferdi that given some brain for the driver easily bounces tier10 guns. L2P

That's why I am penetrating them each and every single time with such ease .... right ... go play mario noob .

I penetrated ferdi frontal armor with tier 5 tanks  and same goes for the Jagtiger   no gold ammo involved ... indeed the 107 KV gun has moved nowadays on tier 6   but still there is the  75 l 70 gun which penetrates both ...

Try with those guns to penetrate obj  or  is 7 or is 4 ... never ...
Edited by Expandeux, 01 July 2012 - 10:05 AM.
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Strv's Photo Strv 01 Jul 2012

 EickhardtSr, on 01 July 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

You know that WG has stated that gun mantel on Ferdi and Jagdtiger is bugged after 0.7.4, so it doesn't have any armour at all... It's a game bug, not a "I wont to pound all other" request...
Well, this means that the answer to the question 'when' is obvious - in 0.7.5. OP, however, was speaking about 'penetrating upper hull' bogus.

 Expandeux, on 01 July 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

That's why I am penetrating them each and every single time with such ease .... right ... go play mario noob .
I penetrated ferdi frontal armor with tier 5 tanks  and same goes for the Jagtiger   no gold ammo involved ... indeed the 107 KV gun has moved nowadays on tier 6   but still there is the  75 l 70 gun which penetrates both ...
Try with those guns to penetrate obj  or  is 7 or is 4 ... never ...
Each single time, penetrating. Yeah, cool story.
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 Strv, on 01 July 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Well, this means that the answer to the question 'when' is obvious - in 0.7.5. OP, however, was speaking about 'penetrating upper hull' bogus.

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It's an update they could do on the server, during a server restart. No need to wait for the next patch...
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CarroStimpak's Photo CarroStimpak 01 Jul 2012

 Strv, on 01 July 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

On the topic: somehow, not a single person on the forum complained about non-existent (virtually zero thickness in game models) armour of lower plate of T-34-85 and Chaffee, only about non-existent armour of Ferdi that given some brain for the driver easily bounces tier10 guns. L2P

Did you smoke your brain? the chaffee belongs to light vehicles not heavy genius. And the t34-85 has it's historical armor,or you want some other buffs for your fucking tanks?   While the jadgtiger and ferdinand get pierced damn easily,and over that the jadgtiger always catched fire when i have hit it with the king tiger.
Edited by CarroStimpak, 01 July 2012 - 10:20 AM.
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cimajes's Photo cimajes 01 Jul 2012

Isn't really dumb to face one Ferdi/JgTiger so you can penetrate that weakspot?
I still think that detrack->hug his side/rear is a lot better than facing him...
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MonauralSpider's Photo MonauralSpider 01 Jul 2012

oh well theres goes two more german tanks to the personal museum . :Smile_sceptic:
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Strv's Photo Strv 01 Jul 2012

 CarroStimpak, on 01 July 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

Did you smoke your brain? the chaffee belongs to light vehicles not heavy genius. And the t34-85 has it's historical armor,or you want some other buffs for your fucking tanks?   While the jadgtiger and ferdinand get pierced damn easily,and over that the jadgtiger always catched fire when i have hit it with the king tiger.
I've been speaking about game models bugs, and it seems to me that it's someone else who smoked not only his brain, but also his eyes and general ability to understand what is written. Frontal piece for T-34-85 was missing armour at all ever since 0.7.1, yet not a singe whining thread about that.
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 Strv, on 01 July 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

I've been speaking about game models bugs, and it seems to me that it's someone else who smoked not only his brain, but also his eyes and general ability to understand what is written. Frontal piece for T-34-85 was missing armour at all ever since 0.7.1, yet not a singe whining thread about that.
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Somehow I don't believe you - people whine about all sorts: unjustified and justified.

and by the way, what a nice model. Tanks don't generally have very good armor underneath, and tracks are not really that resistant.
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TopSecret81's Photo TopSecret81 01 Jul 2012

 Zythius, on 01 July 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Somehow I don't believe you - people whine about all sorts: unjustified and justified.

and by the way, what a nice model. Tanks don't generally have very good armor underneath, and tracks are not really that resistant.

true people always like to whine....,
as i have Jtiger and have no problem as lads are saying
I have Object704 as well, and i can say with no hesitation my JT has way better armor than Object, and while object can be easy penetrated from front with guns over 160pen, for JT  any gun under 200pen will have problem.
And im still looking for this myth about tier5 penetrating my JTiger from front.

only thing i can "bitch" about it  is that it wont be tier 10 , as thats fearsome name and great looking TD with best gun in game, and im sure that WG could make it tier 10 with some adjustments according to other tier10s TDs,

anyone knows about more fearsome name for TD than mighty JAGDTIGER??
He existed
and i cant see any other TD that should take spot above him, and for me that unjustified  nerf
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Expandeux's Photo Expandeux 01 Jul 2012

SO you have a picture depicting a t 34 85 with no lfp   which could have been made in photshop  or took from some low quality site  who forgot to add it there .

I rarely shoot at the russian lfp  as it is already very small   compared to the german ones  which is a huge fracking weakspot .

On the other hand  everybody knows  that 90% of shells go right through the lfp armor of german tanks ..   even if

Tiger P lfp has 100+100 armor in 35 angle      Ferdinand has same armor as Tiger P    [ 246 armor ]

  King and Jagtiger  have  100 in 50 degrees  [234 armor]

All of them get easily penetrated in the lfp .... by a lot of lower tier tanks .  

The new bug which appeared and was recognized  by  WG [ the non existent armor of the gun mantlet]  is not being promptly fixed by this  wannabee developers .  IT only needs a  fix not a whole patch ..  by they are too incompetents to fix for over a year  a broken matchmaking system and other  problems ...
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Waagabondh's Photo Waagabondh 01 Jul 2012

 Steffenximus, on 01 July 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

When are they gonna buff german tanks ? Never. But they buffed KV-4, as if it wasn't strong enough.

Why would they do that to be honest? German tanks are already good.

Panzer IV: Great tank
VK3601: Great tank for ite tier
Panther (Arguably the best tier 7 medium and contender for best tier 7 tank)
Tiger II: Together with IS3 they are the top tier 8 tanks
Ferdinand: It was redicilous with its front armor as anything below tier 8 could not damage it from fromt.
Jpanther: Great tier 7 TD, insane cammo, great gun
E75: Arguably the best tier 9 tank in game, even with transmission in front, w hich actually buffed it as the front armor on this thing is insane.
Stug III: Very strong tier 5 TD, Great tank

Weespe;: Best tier 3 arty in game
Grille: Best tier 4 arty in game
Hummel: Best tier 5 arty in game
GWpanther: Best tier 6 arty in game

MAUS....

I could continue but I cant be asked.

There are for sure some things that needs to be fixed.

E100 needs a buff and VK4502p have issues with its turret being so far back, otherwise its a good tier 9 heavy.
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CritiCal057s's Photo CritiCal057s 01 Jul 2012

have you ever shot object 714 ?
it can be penetrated by everything it meets in it's tier,maybe sometimes it can bounce,but that's rare,if you know where to shoot

so you want the armor of the t95 and the precision of the jagdtiger,then jagdtiger should get a top speed of 9 km/h to balance it out, + only stock engine,
then you go complain about being to slow i guess?

ps. you are supposed to snipe from far away,hull down....
jagdtiger has such a precise gun to bad ppl play it so badly,i often see jagdtiger rush first in and getting destroyed in seconds,so they whine how it has poor armor,even a t95 would be dead if it rushed in all the time,you can be penetrated even in that tank.....!!!
Edited by CritiCal057s, 01 July 2012 - 12:04 PM.
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