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Pernumbra #1 Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

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A15 Crusader write up (from here);

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The Cruiser, Mk.VI or A15 Crusader is a British cruiser tank that was developed in parallel with the Mk.V Covenanter since 1940. It was one of the primary British cruiser tanks of early World War II and formed the bulk of armoured vehicles assigned to British forces in North Africa. The tank was designed based on a request for the development of a heavy cruiser tank to lend support to the A13 Cruiser tank.
The Crusader series first started with the MKVI/I and II, equipped with a 40mm weapon. The Crusader II tanks had slightly increased armour protection and other minor modifications while the third version finally carried a 57mm gun. It represented the heaviest weapons mounted on a British battle tank used in Africa. The tank first saw action during Battleaxe with the 7th Armoured Brigade of 7th Armoured Division. The brigade’s tanks came straight off the transport ships and had been sent specially to Egypt from England by orders of Churchill.
It was favoured by the British tank crews due to its mobility and its Ordnance QF 6 pounder main gun more than made up a match for the early Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks it faced during combat. Better known as the “Desert Rats”, so called named after their insignias, they reinforce the saying of “Dust means Death” as the cloud of dust thrown up by the vehicles in the desert allowed enemy observers to detect the presence of incoming enemy forces, thus allowing a reception to be prepared.
The original specifications for the Crusader tank indicated that the tank should have a 40mm frontal armour standard and 30mm elsewhere, and have a weight of no more than 18 tons. To keep production as simple as possible, it was decided the Crusader and Covenanter should share as many components as possible.
The first Crusader tank prototype that was delivered around April 1940 was found to have serious defects. One of the more serious issues reported was that there was a danger of the driver’s head being lopped off by the rear of the turret or hit by the gun should the turret rotate, as his head was exposed above the cabin when opened up. Other issues reported was the driver sustaining injury when going over uneven or rough terrain, lack of cooling and its unreliability in combat. By September 1940, although improvements were made in regards to the driver’s position, the tank still remained impossible for service use.
Later, the tank was modified as there were frequent break-downs due to overheating caused by the high temperatures of the desert. The thickness and length of the body was slightly larger due to the changed location of the radiator and the number of wheels has also been increased to five on one side. The Crusader remained in production well into 1943 but by late 1942, the lack of armament upgrade and the presence of Tiger I tanks among the Afrika Korps resulted in the design being phased out in favour of the new Sherman medium tank supplied by the US.
Due to the grave situation at that time, every vehicle was required and so the Crusader tank was pushed into production. In November 1940, the first Mk I version of the tank was completed. In December 1940, the production model underwent firing and stowage trials at Lulworth and these trials found the vehicle to be most unsatisfactory.
  • No attempt had been made to incorporate any additional equipment which had been found essential by units who served in France.
  • The auxiliary turret was too small for an ordinary man to fit in it and there was no room to operate the gun.
  • With the auxiliary turret opened, the main turret could not be transverse.
  • There was no look-out in the auxiliary turret.
  • The driver had only a limited vision.
  • The gassing trial showed that the auxiliary gunner would only last ten minutes while the rest of the crew would be asphyxiated in approximately half an hour.
The Mk II Crusader tank was an improved armoured version of the Mk I as the frontal armour was increased by up to 10mm and the roof by 3mm. The auxiliary turret was used on both vehicles but due to some of the major problems found during the trials, some Mk I versions and most Mk II versions did not have this turret. By late 1941, there was a need to increase the power of the Crusader’s gun and for this reason the 6pdr guns were produced. Most of the 6pdr guns produced in 1941 were the tank version but these could also be mounted on the anti-tank carriage. Nuffield's version of the turret with a 6pdr was tested in October 1941. Although it was not an ideal solution, the design was approved. Production was authorised in December and the first Crusader tank Mk III was produced in May 1942.
The 2pdr with a 3" howitzer capable of firing both HE and Smoke shells were replaced by close support versions of the Crusader, as the 3" howitzer has been specifically designed to fit in the same mounting as the 2pdr. Thus, fitting it inside the Crusader was no problem. The main issue faced was ammunition stowage as the size of the 3" howitzer rounds reduced the capacity from 130 rounds with the 2pdr to 63 with the 3" howitzer.
The Crusader tank’s armour arrangement was complex with composite, spaced, cast and single plate armour. Generally, the armour was composed of a quality plate with a carbon manganese steel backing plate. This combination offered slightly less ballistic resistance compared with a single plate. However, on non-penetrating rounds, the backing plate stopped fragments from entering the vehicle. In 1942, 14mm quality plates were added to the front of the Crusader to improve protection. There were hopes of adding on another 6mm to this 14mm but the suspension was not able to handle this additional weight.
The Crusader tank performed well against the Italian tanks but was largely inferior to the German vehicles of the time which were better armed and had slightly thicker armour. Reliability was a major problem throughout and this was not largely solved until 1942. The 6pdr gun improvement was greatly welcomed by crew members who at last could deal with any German tank of that period in range fights. By the end of 1942, the Crusader tank had been declared obsolete and was replaced by Shermans.
Referenced from wwiiequipment.com
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LGrum #2 Posted 09 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

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Read the original wwiiequipment text here http://www.wwiiequip...tanks&Itemid=56

And the more comprehensive wikipedia article isn't too bad http://en.wikipedia....i/Crusader_tank


What's not mentioned in the SEA writeup is that the 6pdr Crusader (the Mark III) had a two man turret - gunner and commander.

mr3awsome #3 Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

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it looks like its gonna be average
but all those slopes may make it something special

Edited by mr3awsome, 09 July 2012 - 07:27 PM.


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View Postmr3awsome, on 09 July 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

it looks like its gonna be average
but all those slopes may make it something special

It'd look more special in "Light Stone No.61" rather than a grey-green.

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It is very nice tank especialy the turret .

Kazomir #6 Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:26 PM

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Faced early versions of  Tier 4 and 5 tanks IRL.

WG makes it tier 6.


Profanity removed LOGIC!

...or was it tier 5?

Edited by IPaul72, 18 September 2012 - 04:16 PM.


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tier 5. Cromwell is tier 6.

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View PostLGrum, on 09 July 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

It'd look more special in "Light Stone No.61" rather than a grey-green.

I hate this awful made up dust colour copied from CoH! :Smile-angry:

I dream of Deep Bronze Green.

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View Postmr3awsome, on 09 July 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

it looks like its gonna be average
but all those slopes may make it something special

The only slopes I see are on the sides of the turret.

They are basically making a tank that was inferior to the PzIII tier 5.
Yeah, WG by now has pretty much fucked logic already...

raziekaine #10 Posted 12 July 2012 - 09:43 PM

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it was only inferior because of its gun and real world issues with desert warfare, both of these wont be issues in game therefore will likely be superior to  these other tanks

XxXSpottedYouXxX #11 Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:23 AM

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Just make it fast and have good view range and good traverse and im happy.

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View PostUMM, on 12 July 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

The only slopes I see are on the sides of the turret.

They are basically making a tank that was inferior to the PzIII tier 5.
Yeah, WG by now has pretty much fucked logic already...

A Crusader III with a Mk.V L50 57mm 6lber is FAR superior to a Panzer III and good match for any Panzer IV A-E.

Amphiskios #13 Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:21 AM

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It's gonna be a while before it is going to be available, but I intend to play the Crusader as soon as I can get my hands on it. The design of that tank fascinates me.

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View PostAmphiskios, on 03 September 2012 - 01:21 AM, said:

It's gonna be a while before it is going to be available, but I intend to play the Crusader as soon as I can get my hands on it. The design of that tank fascinates me.

^This. Such an interesting design.

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View PostKazomir, on 09 July 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

Faced early versions of  Tier 4 and 5 tanks IRL.

WG makes it tier 6.


Profanity removed LOGIC!

...or was it tier 5?
What is so different about Tiger or almost every other German tank?

Edited by IPaul72, 18 September 2012 - 04:17 PM.


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Heh, I just realised that the class is listed as 'cruiser' on the render, which is neat. For some bizarre reason I thought it said light or medium or something...

Actually, I'm gonna go look at the Churchill's render and see if it's classed correctly too.

EDIT: Nope, it's classed as a Heavy Tank. That sucks...

Edited by _Knight_Commander_Pask_, 06 September 2012 - 06:24 PM.


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In the tree the Crusader is a Light :Smile_ohmy:

Amphiskios #18 Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:07 AM

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That seems to be a rather correct classification, since the Mk IV Crusader has a weight of 20 tons. We got heavier light tanks in the game. I know that the picture at the beginning of this thread speaks of a weight of 52,5 tons, but that's simply incorrect. Apparently nobody bothered to proofread that picture before it was put online.

Edited by Amphiskios, 07 September 2012 - 12:11 AM.


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or perhaps they have modified it so much it weighs that much :Smile-hiding:

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What's with the weight?? If it weighed 50t then no wonder we saw it pushing over that panther in the preview vid





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