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Any point in grinding for the T110E5 now?

lfcfan's Photo lfcfan 10 Jul 2012

With the stats published today for the new tier 10 meds, I wonder if there's any point in grinding for the T110E5 now? The new Patton will have a 268 pen gun with 2925 DPM compared to the T110E5's gun which has only 2400 DPM.

Right now I'm playing the M103 and I really like it, and even though I knew the new T10 meds are coming, I thought they'd just have better mobility, DPM and armor, but not penetration. But now, I don't see what's the point in playing the T110E5 now since I'll be worse in pretty much every aspect other than armor compared to the new Patton, and armor won't play such a big role when you have a 268 pen gun with awesome mobility.

I already have everything researched on the Patton, but sold it to buy the T34 before it went premium, so I only need the money to buy the Patton and accumulate the 180-200k exp that the new Patton will probably cost.

Is there anything I'm missing? Should I abandon my grind in the M103 and concentrate on buying the Patton and prepare for the new one?


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---Orree
Edited by Orree, 11 July 2012 - 03:40 PM.
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Cippalippus's Photo Cippalippus 10 Jul 2012

What? You sold your Patton? For shame, son.
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ramp4ge's Photo ramp4ge 10 Jul 2012

Where are these stats published? Link please? Genuine curiousity.
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lfcfan's Photo lfcfan 10 Jul 2012

View PostCippalippus, on 10 July 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

What? You sold your Patton? For shame, son.

I had to, otherwise I wouldn't have had enough money to get the T34 before it went premium, but then I got bored and left the game for about two months.
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lfcfan's Photo lfcfan 10 Jul 2012

View Postramp4ge, on 10 July 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

Where are these stats published? Link please? Genuine curiousity.

http://forum.worldof...m-tanks-in-075/
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Cippalippus's Photo Cippalippus 10 Jul 2012

Well buy it again! What kind of question is that? Never not own a Patton.
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Stieger11's Photo Stieger11 10 Jul 2012

They sad also they will rebalance T10 heavies, maybe better rof, more HP, or stronger armor, who knows... On test servers we will see...
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Riddip's Photo Riddip 10 Jul 2012

This really does look a bit ridiculous, why should i drive my maus then at all? armor becomes more and more useless ... -.-
Edited by Riddip, 10 July 2012 - 08:55 PM.
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Warheart1992's Photo Warheart1992 10 Jul 2012

If I may , all we have are pics taken from a video regarding stats . If it takes until august to release the 7.5 , then expect lot of readjustment before these meds hit the live server...
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theghostcat's Photo theghostcat 10 Jul 2012

because the T110E is still fun. And I want all the top US tanks...

Not to mention - no one has actually played the new tier 10 meds/td's yet
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ctrlHoRst's Photo ctrlHoRst 10 Jul 2012

As far as I know pretty much all tier 9&10 tanks will be rebalanced, and the stats of the patton may change. Also, the T110E5 has some armor, I don't expect the M48 to have any.
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Dead_Skin_Mask's Photo Dead_Skin_Mask 10 Jul 2012

1. Stats of X tier meds are not final. You should have seen penetration of some French tanks in first public test.... Six tier heavy had better pen then IX tier meds.
2. X tier heavys will be rebalanced too. T110 can have big advantage in HP. Also T110 has much better armor then M48
3. X tier meds, are X tier, so they shall be powerful like X tier heavys, but in other way.
Edited by Dead_Skin_Mask, 14 July 2012 - 09:35 AM.
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Ectar's Photo Ectar 11 Jul 2012

Mediums of a set tier should be able to penetrate the heavies of their tier. Directly head on it might be difficult or crazy and I don't see people doing that now. As a heavy you'll still have the gun that hits harder more armour and more HP.

From the way some people are panicking over this, it's like they're the only people in their team, and they drive their heavies into the open on every map and sit in a field waiting for mediums to drive towards them.
I was always under the impression that heavies use cover when reloading and avoid open spaces. They also have support of their team.  It's a very brave or foolish medium who takes a heavy head on.
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XxXSpottedYouXxX's Photo XxXSpottedYouXxX 11 Jul 2012

Well now the all the heavy fanboys will whine :S.
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Gnomus's Photo Gnomus 11 Jul 2012

View PostEctar, on 11 July 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Mediums of a set tier should be able to penetrate the heavies of their tier. Directly head on it might be difficult or crazy and I don't see people doing that now. As a heavy you'll still have the gun that hits harder more armour and more HP.

From the way some people are panicking over this, it's like they're the only people in their team, and they drive their heavies into the open on every map and sit in a field waiting for mediums to drive towards them.
I was always under the impression that heavies use cover when reloading and avoid open spaces. They also have support of their team.  It's a very brave or foolish medium who takes a heavy head on.

One or two random T10 meds in random battle might not be too bad. But three in platoon? Or 15 in tank company? If meds have better DPM than heavies, they move much better and heavies armour is useless in practice, then what use there is for T10 heavies in coordinated battle?
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theghostcat's Photo theghostcat 11 Jul 2012

View PostEctar, on 11 July 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:


From the way some people are panicking over this, it's like they're the only people in their team, and they drive their heavies into the open on every map and sit in a field waiting for mediums to drive towards them.


They do exactly that! - and that's why there is so much arty hate: most heavy players don't know how to use there own tanks.
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triggerbunny's Photo triggerbunny 11 Jul 2012

T110 is still going to be able to stand up for itself I'm sure.
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arbenowskee's Photo arbenowskee 11 Jul 2012

remember, this are all prelimenary stats and will probably change.

Imo this high pen guns are not something that will stay. Personaly i would implement tier 10 meds so they are more mobile, have better acceleration, more hp and more DPS (maybe even higher alphas, but not necesery) over tier 9 smaller brothers. Adding more protection is debatable.
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deveen23's Photo deveen23 11 Jul 2012

View Postlfcfan, on 10 July 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

With the stats published today for the new tier 10 meds, I wonder if there's any point in grinding for the T110E5 now? The new Patton will have a 268 pen gun with 2925 DPM compared to the T110E5's gun which has only 2400 DPM.

Right now I'm playing the M103 and I really like it, and even though I knew the new T10 meds are coming, I thought they'd just have better mobility, DPM and armor, but not penetration. But now, I don't see what's the point in playing the T110E5 now since I'll be worse in pretty much every aspect other than armor compared to the new Patton, and armor won't play such a big role when you have a 268 pen gun with awesome mobility.

I already have everything researched on the Patton, but sold it to buy the T34 before it went premium, so I only need the money to buy the Patton and accumulate the 180-200k exp that the new Patton will probably cost.

Is there anything I'm missing? Should I abandon my grind in the M103 and concentrate on buying the Patton and prepare for the new one?

You should really go for the tank you wanna play. I avoid heavies cause I don't like to crawl around. I don't expect T10 heavies to be penetrated that easily so they will have a role, especially in battles with about 10 tanks being tier 9 and below. As for Patton, I expect much better turret armor than M46 has and a bit better hull armor, but still very destructible, much more so than T110.
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SmellyOne's Photo SmellyOne 11 Jul 2012

View PostGnomus, on 11 July 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

One or two random T10 meds in random battle might not be too bad. But three in platoon? Or 15 in tank company? If meds have better DPM than heavies, they move much better and heavies armour is useless in practice, then what use there is for T10 heavies in coordinated battle?

Well if meds have high penetration guns, and heavy's armor becomes relative, then i suppose we can expect heavies to have more HP.

Even if a med has 270 penetration, good RoF, good mobility etc, it still doesnt make it superior over a heavy tank that has 1000-2000 more hp, for example. With less than 200 armor (i think none of the new med 10s has more than 200 armor with slope bonus counted) all current tier 10 tanks can penetrate them frontally, so even with something like a 1000 HP advantage over meds, heavies will still retain some advantage?

Ofc if they dont reduce the ridiculously stupidly high amount of module damage, then no matter how much HP heavies get, they will be roflstopmed by meds...
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