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Ofc the T110E5 has still a use, it got a HP advantage and it got actual front armor.
M48 Patton will get penned by everything the MM throws at it, T110E5 can even bounce BL10 gold shells from the front. You just cant reliably hit the weakspots if the T110E5 is far away or smart and keeps moving nonstop. You actually have to aim to damage the T110E5 from the front, against M48 you can just use autoaim.

Cippalippus, on 10 July 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Only when u have played 3000 with the Patton do you have the right to sell it lol.

Cippalippus, on 10 July 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Amen

Riddip, on 10 July 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

we drive our maus because WG genuine piss themselves laughing at us for having wasted so much time and credits grinding for a tank that is now totally inferior. Slow, immobile, poor penetration and relatively easy to penatrate.. great "balance".

The current heavies only have a few hundred hit points more. Which is utterly negated with the dpm of the new mediums. Basically unless they raise hitpoints across the board them the tier x mediums will be unbeatable since armour is no longer a factor for the heavies.

The stats we see now aren't guaranteed to be the final stats. Don't pay too much attention to them for now.

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Why should be a point in there? We have more than enough T110 owners already. And I really hope they all start learning how to play it. The few good T110 pilots prove it's an awesome tank, with or without tier X meds.

Spare us the useless posts about learning to play a heavy tank correctly and depending on your team, please.  

Anyway, I'm more interested in changes to the T110E5. I was under the impression that tier 10 heavies would be rebalanced ... ?

R1CHB, on 11 July 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

What are you complaining, Maus has been doing fine so far but E100 already is and is going to be even more impotent.
Luckily, they are buffing Maus and E100 but E100 needs some serious love, having the worst unofficial stats (rofl and pen issues).

Edit:
The forthcoming "buffs" for the Maus and E100 (in real life, "nerfs"!!) are explained over here: http://forum.worldof...and-e100-buffs/
Someone really hates the German tree.
Edited by koez, 13 July 2012 - 10:42 AM.

I was gonna say until you edited that, I agree E100 is worse, but Maus was THE feared tank once. Now its a joke.
What use is 200 extra hp when im sat there perma tracked while everything in the game will be penetrating it.

grinding for a T110, just bough t32 and i feel like a "dumbass" cause of tierX tds and meds.I think heavies wont be "balanced" no matter how they say it will be.Tier IX tds were fine counter to tierX heavies already and now there are tierX versions.

I admit that i like heavy tanks, i play only them but after 7.5 i've to decide to quit game or go for tds or meds.Think 7.5 will kill tierX heavies. will w8 and see it myself..

is T110E5 gonna get a reload nerf in this patch?

Ectar, on 11 July 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

What?


Only advantage T110 have over tierX mediums is 200 hp and dont tell me it have armor, the new russian medium have more.

You either remove the turret tumor or it will become as usefull as e100 is right now.
Edited by S0D, 14 July 2012 - 07:53 AM.

We'll have to wait and see of course, but it definitely doesn't look good for heavies. They are already fodder for the high tier TDs and arty, without adding T10 MTs to the mix. After 7.5, I suspect you will see a marked decrease in the number of top tier heavies, because from the looks of it they are going to be somewhat redundant; what use is armour over mobility, when you are facing guns capable of nearly 270mm of penetration?

Edit: Neg rep from the usual TD/arty crowd. Well good game mate, enjoy playing against your own kind, because at this rate that's all you will have left.

Even the new mediums have better guns than the heavies  

Zenith, on 15 July 2012 - 04:20 AM, said:

Isn't it what pretty much happened in the real history, with "true" heavy tanks becoming redundant and eventually being replaced by "heavy mediums" that later became what MBTs are now? Just on a side note.

turmalin, on 15 July 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

Well duh, but this is a game is it not? Why even have T9/10 heavies then? More fodder? If we're going into the whole history thing, I could really screw with all your favourite tanks.

Zenith, on 15 July 2012 - 04:20 AM, said:

It may seem like it has a lot of penetration, but the M48 still can't penetrate a lot of armour (turrets, front plates, weak spots must still be aimed for), and it has absolutely no armour itself, so you can just autoaim and fire if you really want and you'll go through. Mobility wise it's only 44km/h which isn't an awful lot for a tank with no armour, and it is less accurate (although it has brilliant accuracy on the move), less damage and less pen than the T110's gun.

T110 can still absorb far more firepower then the M48 can. That is what heavies were good for. By this time in history, mediums were rivaling heavies on the firepower scale so heavies are starting to lose their massive advantage in firepower. They still have their massive advantage in protection, tho.

For the entire game, heavies have had 2 points on the holy trinity all to themselves. They combined great firepower with great protection and generally good mobility.

Now it's a bit reversed. Heavies still have great firepower and great protection, but now mediums also can claim they possess 2 points on the "holy trinity". Great firepower and great mobility with decent protection.

As for the gun, it's only 1mm less pen then the T110's M58. It's only 10 less damage, too. But it's a vastly superior rate of fire and it FEELS both more accurate AND more reliable penetration-wise then the M58. It also feels like the time-to-target of the round is a lot shorter.
Edited by ramp4ge, 21 July 2012 - 12:53 AM.

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Oh yeah the 100mm hull armor on the T-62A is so vastly superior to the heavies.

Protection-wise, T-62A's a DOWNGRADE from the T-54...
Edited by ramp4ge, 21 July 2012 - 01:30 AM.