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Ulltussa #1 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:21 PM

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It seems that many battles ends with a difference of 10 or so?

If so its not sign of health when battles are so uneven.
Maybe a few <10% gets real exciting when its 2-4 tanks left fighting.

This ought to be fixed so the battles gets more even and tactics gets more important.

Any thoughts about this?

Edited by Ulltussa, 11 July 2012 - 09:18 PM.


Rampage #2 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

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1. Rarely happens
2. Random

term1x #3 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:34 PM

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this ain't fault of MM, only bunch of noobs in one team :Smile_trollface-3:

if you lucky, you will be in the opposite team :arta:

lavaboy #4 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

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View Postterm1x, on 11 July 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

this ain't fault of MM, only bunch of noobs in one team :Smile_trollface-3:

if you lucky, you will be in the opposite team :arta:

^^ true

i find it's the players, not the tanks, that decide the outcome most of the time

term1x #5 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:40 PM

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That Indiana Jones GIF ROFL :Smile_veryhappy:

+1

Edited by term1x, 11 July 2012 - 08:41 PM.


Jigabachi #6 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:42 PM

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View PostRampage, on 11 July 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

1. Rarely happens
50% = "rarely"?
Eeeehm. No. ;)

It's a problem caused by both MM and players. The MM still only throws random TANKS (instead of players) together and the playerbase of WoT is one of the most... "not so good" ones I've ever seen so far.

Edited by Jigabachi, 11 July 2012 - 08:43 PM.


term1x #7 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 11 July 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

50% = "rarely"?
Eeeehm. No. ;)

It's a problem caused by both MM and players. The MM still only throws random TANKS (instead of players) together and the playerbase of WoT is one of the most... "not so good" ones I've ever seen so far.

I think you should visit WIKI for more details about MM. You lack some info. :facepalmic:

Homer_J #8 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:50 PM

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View PostUlltussa, on 11 July 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

It seems that many battles ends with a difference of 10 or so?

If so its not sign of health when battles are so uneven.


Why?

Surely if teams are evenly matched initially then it will lead to uneven endings?

The first tank to die immediately gives that team a disadvantage and it snowballs from there.

Jigabachi #9 Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:52 PM

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View Postterm1x, on 11 July 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

I think you should visit WIKI for more details about MM. You lack some info. :facepalmic:

Huh? Which info exactly?

fantorangen #10 Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:34 PM

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Is it fair to think that a perfect matchmaker would give maybe 1 out of 5 draws?
Would we want that?

Ulltussa #11 Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:39 PM

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View PostRampage, on 11 July 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

1. Rarely happens
2. Random
Where have you been the last couple of weeks?

View Postfantorangen, on 11 July 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Is it fair to think that a perfect matchmaker would give maybe 1 out of 5 draws?
Would we want that?

The outcome seems so random when it vary so much.

So its more luck than skill that make you a winner of a battle.

term1x #12 Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

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it's holiday season, all kids are playing :Smile_glasses:

Ulltussa #13 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:22 PM

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This is starting to become very boring.
15-5
15-3
1-15
3-15
5-15
15-2
15-4
15-3

Yawn...

It seems to be fixed games.

I want exciting matches but they are more and more seldom nowdays.

Ulltussa #14 Posted 06 August 2012 - 03:12 PM

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Same shit still.

Ulltussa #15 Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:51 PM

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20 uneven games tonight............

So boring....

Woel #16 Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:00 PM

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View PostUlltussa, on 11 July 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

It seems that many battles ends with a difference of 10 or so?

If so its not sign of health when battles are so uneven.
Maybe a few <10% gets real exciting when its 2-4 tanks left fighting.

This ought to be fixed so the battles gets more even and tactics gets more important.

Any thoughts about this?
The solution is very simple. If your team is winning by a lot, then proceed to the corner of the map as many of the wise E-100 players tend to do, for the sake of fair play. If the enemy seems to be rolling over your team, then just play better.

Anyways, I find the close battles far more interesting/exciting also, but these are random battles, so it's expected to be unbalanced. What tiers are you playing?  It wasn't that bad with high tiers today for me (T7-8 battles seem to be pretty one sided lately, though)

Grabarz19_PL #17 Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:07 PM

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This is starting to become very boring.
15-5
15-3
1-15
3-15
5-15
15-2
15-4
15-3

Yawn...

It seems to be fixed games.

I want exciting matches but they are more and more seldom nowdays.
Totally agreed. We think the same in this matter. No matter on which side you are on, 15>3 or 3<15 is simply not fun. I still have fun blasting tanks of course, but there is no communication nor teamwork in these battles. It happens very rarely and is very enjoying knowing that your team still had chances.

Unfortunately, until MM decides to work with players' stats (which will never happen) we will keep seeing these results and they're in no way connected to the tank spread (because it mostly depends on the player not the tank he drives).

Hope and keep playing until another of these interesting matches happens where you'll end up in a 2vs2 to 5vs5 spread with at least half communicative players :)

Edited by Grabarz19_PL, 07 August 2012 - 10:08 PM.


rockmonkey #18 Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:16 PM

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No one enjoys one side battles even if you win, well i certianly don't.

As some one said it's not match maker that cause such one sided battles it is the players, the development of the tanks they have and training/knowlege of crew and player himself.

Match maker can 'mismatch' tank class with stuff like all TDs as top tanks one side and all mediums as top tanks the other (but this normally caused by platoons)

One sided match will not change unless they implement at 'rating' system of ability which is taken into account when match maker sorts out matches (it won't happen in my life time :Smile_blinky: )

loituma #19 Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:34 PM

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I actually love these :Smile_popcorn1:
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rockmonkey #20 Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:55 PM

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View Postloituma, on 07 August 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

I actually love these :Smile_popcorn1:
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easy to explain... 'red arty platoon enemies side', lots of slow tanks enemies side with no real fast strong scouts and they camped base. Your side decent solo arty players (one got lucky) and decent fast mediums who charged the enemy.. am i right? :)