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wanger's Photo wanger 13 Jul 2012

hi all.

Im having a little trouble deciding what the best course of action i should take when 7.5 hits.

I currently have a jadgtiger (457 battles, 51% winrate) and i have somethi.g like 1400 td battles overall. When the news of the jpz e100 was announced i made a decision to start the long grind on some 6-7 elite tanks i own to get free xp. My question is simple, now that i have 200+ free xp should i sell the jt? With the current MM im assuming even a tier 9 JT will more than likely face the new tier10 td's so would that make then rather useless in the long run? From the test server reviews ive read the new 174mm gun can put out around 1100-1300 dmg per hit which leaves a JT after a good hit on about 30-40% hp? Will the JT still be viable ingame or is it worth selling to fund the new tier10 with the much needed 3 million credits
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VGA's Photo VGA 13 Jul 2012

I don't have one, but with the new uberguns and the high visibility of the JT you'll be getting trolled for 800-1100 dmg in most games.

Wait to see how the tier 10 is.
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SgVolf's Photo SgVolf 13 Jul 2012

I don't think that any of the current TDs will be useless after the new ones.
As the lower tier heavy tanks aren't useless because there are higher tier heavies.

I think tier IX TDs will probably get better matchmaking and this will probably increase its usefullness.
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Hoffmeister's Photo Hoffmeister 13 Jul 2012

I am grinding xp on both my elite Ferdi and JT and when new tier 10 TD will be introduced I intend to sell JT and buy JE-100. Of course I will keep Ferdi cause it is sheer awesomeness ;) (for me)
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C1BO's Photo C1BO 13 Jul 2012

The JT still is a good TD, regardless of a new, higher Tier-Level.
So I will definitely keep him
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ctrlHoRst's Photo ctrlHoRst 13 Jul 2012

They both require a different playstyle. If you thought the Jagdtiger is slow, just wait for the Jagdpanzer E-100, that thing feels like a beached whale. I also found the Jagdtigers gun more reliable, it's more accurate, and if you miss or bounce with 17cm (yes, bouncing is even with 299mm average penetration possible), it hurts because you have to reload 20+ seconds. On the other side, the Jagdpanzer E-100 can dish out 1100+ damage with one single shot, which allows it to twoshot even tier 10 vehicles. It's armor is also better than the Jagdtiger.

All in all, the Jagdtiger is the better supporter, and it can deal better with approching medium tanks, but the Jagdpanzer E100 is a dangerous frontline tank, if supported correctly.
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Gmop's Photo Gmop 13 Jul 2012

 Hoffmeister, on 13 July 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

I am grinding xp on both my elite Ferdi and JT and when new tier 10 TD will be introduced I intend to sell JT and buy JE-100. Of course I will keep Ferdi cause it is sheer awesomeness ;) (for me)
That is acually a great way to get the tier 10, playing 2 tanks to get one. I have an elite Ferdi and was thinking of skipping the JT. Anybody know what moduls you have to research on the JT before the E-100 is researchable?
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Sturmtiger_304's Photo Sturmtiger_304 13 Jul 2012

The JagdpzE-100 is exactly like the T95 in every possible way.

Hide your lower hull & you are pretty much invinsible.
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wanger's Photo wanger 13 Jul 2012

Ye, the more i think about it keeping the jt may be the best way to go. I was always in love with the way the jt could hulldown and dish out damage against multiple enemies, from the reports of the e100 it sounds similar in that respect except the rof is a bit poo and mobility is bad but then again its a tank destroyer, seeing an e75 go up in a puff of smoke from 500 m is pure joy :-)
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Alegnem's Photo Alegnem 13 Jul 2012

Mobility isn't as bad as you would think. True, it's not a light tank and has only 18deg turnspeed but it can pretty easily keep pace with T30.
But the gun... isn't for everybody I'd say. Surely it isn't for me.
Strange thing to see after whole line being high RoF + low damage.
JT remains quite good TD even when facing T10 meds and TDs. I did actually really good against T10 meds I think.
Edited by Alegnem, 13 July 2012 - 04:27 PM.
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dudnic's Photo dudnic 13 Jul 2012

 Sturmtiger_304, on 13 July 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

The JagdpzE-100 is exactly like the T95 in every possible way.

Hide your lower hull & you are pretty much invinsible.

How cute, but you forgot about arty :)
But yeah, the same :)
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Paavopesusieni's Photo Paavopesusieni 13 Jul 2012

 Sturmtiger_304, on 13 July 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

The JagdpzE-100 is exactly like the T95 in every possible way.

Hide your lower hull & you are pretty much invinsible.

Last time I checked superstructure got penetrated like cheese against +-270 pen guns.
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Terrorsatan's Photo Terrorsatan 13 Jul 2012

 Paavopesusieni, on 13 July 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Last time I checked superstructure got penetrated like cheese against +-270 pen guns.
Superstructure got penned by 270 pen + Goldammo.
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Zythius's Photo Zythius 13 Jul 2012

I will keep JT and Ferdinand.

Sometimes it's just nice to step down a tier from the JT and drive the Ferdinand, and hopefully the JT can serve like that for the JgPz E-100.

The JT might have it's MM weight reduced a bit?
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Meogron's Photo Meogron 13 Jul 2012

 Paavopesusieni, on 13 July 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Last time I checked superstructure got penetrated like cheese against +-270 pen guns.

Indeed my e-50m gun could tear it apart.
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Evilsod's Photo Evilsod 13 Jul 2012

 Sturmtiger_304, on 13 July 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

The JagdpzE-100 is exactly like the T95 in every possible way.

Hide your lower hull & you are pretty much invinsible.

Except the fact your superstructure isn't that strong.

And your tank is so big it has an equator.

And you have a 20s downtime between zero damage track shots.
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Ascender's Photo Ascender 13 Jul 2012

Yeah indeed it's funny, i've still managed to bounce JagdPz E-100 shells (299 pen) on JT's superstructure, but been penned on my own many times (though the gun and mantlet area cover most of the front). But ontopic: I don't know, the JT is still by far and away the superior sniping gun (aiming time, relocating speed) but the JagdPz E-100 and 'co will make life fairly difficult for it if it gets into a heavy Tier 10 match.

Personally i will see how the vehicles will mutate and be actually implemented on wether or not to actually sell the JT. Silly me, i thought ahead when the JT was my first Tier 9, it had (and still has) the highest APCR penetration of any tank in WoT, and i bought a load of goldshells at half price back when i still had gold to spare. Now they will soon turn obsolete, shame to shoot them, but also a shame not to shoot them. I don't know, we'll see...  the JT is a neat agile tank, but i feel as long as it's camo and armor stay unhistorically shit then it's not going to be worth keeping. Maybe, someday sometime we'll see another application for the 128L/61 that will be actually worth having, in any of the other 3 german TD lines that might come into existance by the year 2041.
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Sturmtiger_304's Photo Sturmtiger_304 14 Jul 2012

 burny1, on 13 July 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

How cute, but you forgot about arty :)
But yeah, the same :)
You take almost no damage if a enemy artillery hits you in the face.

 Paavopesusieni, on 13 July 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Last time I checked superstructure got penetrated like cheese against +-270 pen guns.
You can angle it even more than the JT, also you got skirts that is awesome.

 Evilsod, on 13 July 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Except the fact your superstructure isn't that strong.

And your tank is so big it has an equator.

And you have a 20s downtime between zero damage track shots.
Team mates are awesome, when they protect your arse. So generally, if you want to perform good, you have to be nearby friendly tanks, and hope to god that they are competent at playing the game.
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Alegnem's Photo Alegnem 14 Jul 2012

 Sturmtiger_304, on 14 July 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

You take almost no damage if a enemy artillery hits you in the face.
That is far from true, but yep, you are slightly less vulnerable than JT.
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Evilsod's Photo Evilsod 14 Jul 2012

 Sturmtiger_304, on 14 July 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

You take almost no damage if a enemy artillery hits you in the face.

You been fighting against Bison's or something? I still took 900 damage from a direct hit by a T92.


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Team mates are awesome, when they protect your arse. So generally, if you want to perform good, you have to be nearby friendly tanks, and hope to god that they are competent at playing the game.

And we both know players on this game are competent right /rolleyes
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