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Poll: " E100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Prototype " (213 members have cast votes)

Would you like to see " E100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Prototype " on game ? if so, how it might be bring to game at german heavy tech line :

  1. 1 ) Yes, I would like to see it ,like this way : " Would you like to see ' E100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Prototype ' as a tier X premium tank ? " (33 votes [16.02%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.02%

  2. 2) Yes, I would like to see it ,like this way : " Would you like to see ' E100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Prototype ' as putting it between current two german heavy tank tech tree(s) as new tier X tank ( in a new german heavy tank tech tree ) ? " (130 votes [63.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.11%

  3. 3) No, I don't want to see it ingame. (14 votes [6.80%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.80%

  4. 4) Replace it with current E-100 (29 votes [14.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.08%

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squarerigger #21 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

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Great pics. Thanks.

DarthE100 #22 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:22 PM

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This is my E-100 skin ^^ I love it^^Posted Image

bravotango #23 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:24 PM

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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

if our reputation point is high ( which we can see at our profile info ), is it good ? I was always wonder it. And how to give +1 or -1 reputation points at forums? thx.

Reputation is useless, because people neg rep you, if you have a different opinion on anything, but basically high rep is good. Although never judge people by their points. There are people, who simply hated by blind fan boys of, either the game, WG or any tank in game. If you write something even if it's true, some people can't handle it.

Of course, there are some trolls too, who contribute nothing to the community.

Edited by bravotango, 20 July 2012 - 06:24 PM.


KptStrzyga #24 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:24 PM

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Now i got -1. Haters gonna hate. Lets see how many minuses this post will draw just by its existence?

Edited by KptStrzyga, 20 July 2012 - 06:30 PM.


Snortsch #25 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:24 PM

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Hi there,
I've been here right from the start and having been a E-100 fan even before the game, I can give you
all the answers (bold claim, I know ^^ ).

First, the kind of King Tiger turret version of the E-100 is from a Japanese modeling company (I
forgot wich one) and was never planned. Also the cool looking Crocodile TD version is a fantasy
from a modeling company (Trumpeteer) and also was never planned.

When I say never planned, I can say, after the forum collecting data for around at least half a year,
the original blueprints of this prodject, that never even got to a 1:1 wooden mockup, were lost and
only correspondences between the engineers are left, that don't give too much info (about the Crocodile,
not the E-100).

It was originally planned to be available with the Maus turret and the Krupp turret as an update.
The texture and the model for the Maus turret (a one that differs a little from the Maus turret in game)
are still within the files. Unfortunately for a reason, that was never made public, WN dumped the Maus
turret idea and only left the 128mm gun of it in the tank.

Wargamings standpoints on these subjects (not mine):
No Maus turret planned. No "Henschel" or "Adler" turret (Henschel is the one on the first picture) planned
ever, because there is no historical evidence for them. No Crocodile, because it would have too much weight on the
front wheels. No chance it will ever be introduced in the game like this (we've been fighting to get it for a long time in this threat
http://forum.worldof...100-stug-model/ started May 2011 !!!)

Sturmtiger was first planned to be an artillery, now is rather seen as a possible TD with a derp gun, like a super KV-2 (so is the Brummbaer),
but the project was put on hold, because of the high firepower of the gun and the difficulties balancing them. So right now no ETA.
Since it was planned as a premium tank, the damage to the game could be immense if some 3500 damage HE tank would suddenly
flood random games, like the Type 59 once did.

So the answers sadly are, never, never, never and ..maybe, if they figure out a way to balance the Sturmtiger.

But there is a little light of hope, there is a mod to turn your E-100 into a tank that totally looks like a Henschel,
but it won't change the hitbox and make every E-100 look like this, wich means, that you wouldn't be able to aim at the sensor bar
on top anymore, because it wouldn't be in the model anymore. Sorry about only being able to bring you bad news.

Edit:Totally overlooked, that you already got that skin. The Alligator isn't planned either. Actually, the plan was cancelled because
the E-100 was expected to have enough "normal" anti air tanks for it's defence. Even if the devs wanted, there is no multi gun
support in the game atm. I personally would love to see it ;)

Edited by Snortsch, 20 July 2012 - 06:30 PM.


Hummus #26 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:26 PM

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Historical accuracy is only used to nerf the German tanks.... never to give us anything shiny (I say us because i only play the German tree)

For example: the e-75 was planned with rear wheel drive, yet now we have a transmission in the front. And we know WG knows this because they used that same source of info to explain why the E-100 had a rear wheel trans.
/stopwhine/

That E-100 tiger mous looks damn good though :)  so you got my +1

Dead_Skin_Mask #27 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Hi EU world of tanks fellows. I made some research on google;and I want to make some interpretation(s)/comment(s) about some cool nice tank(s) ;and found this http://ww2drawings.j...00/E-100(2).html . " E-100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Tank Prototype " ,

There was never such prototype. Germans made only one unfinished hull of E-100 (pictured below) and nothing more.
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Internet is full of fantasy or semi-fantasy III Reich tanks. And this so called E-100 Tiger-Maus is just one of many semi-fantasies about final E-100. One of those semi-fantasies we already have in game as E-100 heavy tank.

Edited by Dead_Skin_Mask, 20 July 2012 - 07:08 PM.


KptStrzyga #28 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:39 PM

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Like this game is full of fantasy tanks. Why bother? Most important thing is that we have choice.

Edited by KptStrzyga, 20 July 2012 - 06:39 PM.


bravotango #29 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:43 PM

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View PostSnortsch, on 20 July 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

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When I say never planned...
...

I don't want to spam, so I don't quote all of that. I just want to bring up WG's logic again about historical accuracy. They say, E-100 turrets, German gearboxes, JgE-100 can't look or be, like they way we want them, because they were never existed, not even on papers. While they make a whole tank out of nowhere, without any problems. I'm talking about the T28 prototype. This TD never existed, not even on paper, but WG needed a filler on the line, so they thought up a tank.

WG's actions are contradicts themselves and this was always the case. They say X, then next patch they do Y.

DarthE100 #30 Posted 20 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

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Fantasy or not ;E-100 Tiger-Maus is awesome ( and ,in my opinion, it was a projected german heavy tank at ww2, even it doesn't able to go out from dust papers to light-public ) . For example normal E-100 was designed as using 150mm besides it can use the 170mm too ;but at game we just able to use the 150mm^^ one. For me, E-100 Tiger-Maus is not seem as a fantasy tank^^ which it can be come to world of tanks game.

At this website ( http://ww2drawings.j...te.fr/index.html  ) we can see all german-usa-rus etc. nations made prototypes ; and released ones at real world too ( which we can see these tanks , at ww2drawings.jexiste.fr website's listed tanks , at world of tanks game too )

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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

.. . Inaddition we don'T see stug E-100 tank destroyer and sturmtiger tank( premium tank http://ww2drawings.j.../Sturmtiger.html ) at german tree, it makes me and feels me sad realy...  

This one was planned (i dont know if actually build or not) to destroy fortifikations like Fortresses, Bunker and so on.. not to destroy Tanks

DarthE100 #32 Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:05 PM

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Buffzzz , stug E-100 name is E-100 crocdile normally http://ww2drawings.j...-Jagdpanzer.html . You don2t need to worry ,it is exist^^

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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Fantasy or not ;E-100 Tiger-Maus is awesome ( and ,in my opinion, it was a projected german heavy tank at ww2, even it doesn't able to go out from dust papers to light-public ) . For example normal E-100 was designed as using 150mm besides it can use the 170mm too ;but at game we just able to use the 150mm^^ one. For me, E-100 Tiger-Maus is not seem as a fantasy tank^^ which it can be come to world of tanks game.

At this website ( http://ww2drawings.j...te.fr/index.html  ) we can see all german-usa-rus etc. nations made prototypes ; and released ones at real world too ( which we can see these tanks , at ww2drawings.jexiste.fr website's listed tanks , at world of tanks game too )

There is more there, then only released tanks and prototypes. On this site are also tanks which never existed, even as prototypes.

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View PostVipez, on 20 July 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Dont forget this "Jagdmaus" beauty :wub::wub::wub:

http://www.panzerfux...M-80129_b_2.JPG
OH MY GOD...

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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Buffzzz , stug E-100 name is E-100 crocdile normally http://ww2drawings.j...-Jagdpanzer.html . You don2t need to worry ,it is exist^^

Those E100 Krokodil is fantasy model made by fans of German panzerwaffe long after the war. Germans planed TD on E-100 chassis, but never even started prototype.

Edited by Dead_Skin_Mask, 20 July 2012 - 07:23 PM.


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View PostDarthE100, on 20 July 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Hi EU world of tanks fellows. I made some research on google;and I want to make some interpretation(s)/comment(s) about some cool nice tank(s) ;and found this http://ww2drawings.j...00/E-100(2).html . " E-100 Tiger-Maus Heavy Tank Prototype " , I realy love this german heavy tank realy ( even I put in as skin at game too AT MY e-100 ). Why developers don'T put this prototype too ?  Furthermore I learned another information too that is E-100 can use 170mm gun too http://ww2drawings.j...E-100/E-100.html . Inaddition we don'T see stug E-100 tank destroyer and sturmtiger tank( premium tank http://ww2drawings.j.../Sturmtiger.html ) at german tree, it makes me and feels me sad realy...  

                                                                                                    


Well the germans never finished the E100 it was a dream project of Hitler as meany of his other visions, so to say that tiger maus was proto... i dont know bout that. But for the game mechanics it would work in a later stage.
With the Mause was however they tried to build 2 but only 1 was finished maybe cause of the fact that it was veighing 188 tons. A roling fort for the time beeing and it was late in the war also so reserves was short. Also tanks was Inventet not many years ealier witch means that the way we think of tanks today was not what they saw back then. It must have been crazy :)
This game is not exactly the truth but it is damn fun to play

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View PostBuffzzz, on 20 July 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

This one was planned (i dont know if actually build or not) to destroy fortifikations like Fortresses, Bunker and so on.. not to destroy Tanks

May I direct your attention to the KV-2, the T95, and every single artillery piece in the game.

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Look at the JagdMaus holy **** guys i would love one of them beauty's look at how beautiful she is what a beautiful piece of engineering and she looks fabulous damn she has a great pair of buckets.

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View Postbravotango, on 20 July 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

While they make a whole tank out of nowhere, without any problems. I'm talking about the T28 prototype. This TD never existed, not even on paper, but WG needed a filler on the line, so they thought up a tank.

Frankly, they should redo the US TD tree on tier 7-8 instead of going on a geater spree of such fail. The T25 TD looks very different from the mockup they based it on, T28 (both) are lame and I have no idea what the T25/2 is even if it might be based on some concept (and why is it named "/2" isn't that Soviet nomenclature?).

Barring any other options, the could fill tiers 7-8 it with the limited traverse/casemate design concepts from '50s (the ones that came before T110). I think they should bring the T30 back into HT tree too. There is no need to argue it replaces the TDs in CW now that we have tier 10 TDs. But I don't think they are willing to save the mess anymore now that they have already implemented the trees. There would be too much complaining.

Good thing they are still planning the historical battle mode. Then I can finally kiss all the (increasing numbers of) paper/wooden/prototype tanks a goodbye for good in my version of the game

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View PostDerRizerPin, on 20 July 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Look at the JagdMaus holy **** guys i would love one of them beauty's look at how beautiful she is what a beautiful piece of engineering and she looks fabulous damn she has a great pair of buckets.
They actually thought of this one, but the engineers found out, that it's size would be to high to
be transported on trains.