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I just tried it , instead of tier 4 max, its now tier 5 max. Not sure what to do against tier 5 with only 51 pen.
Its not reduced its INCREASED.

Lets hope its a mistake on their part. Since with the valentines speed and pen , i don't see it doing so well against tier 5.

I have seen them in T6-T7 battles... so don't whine.

"AMX40" with that i was never been in T4 levels just in T6-T7.
Edited by Styrr, 20 July 2012 - 09:01 PM.

Same problem with the Pz B2. There's a thread about this here: http://forum.worldof...tier-4-battles/

I agree the Valentine really doesn't belong in tier 5 battles.

There will be a test version 3, so let's hope for the best! I wanted to buy the B1, because of the reduced
tierspread, but it would be just as useless, as my Valentine.

 drindra, on 20 July 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

Let's hope so - facing a tier V tank with a tier II gun is not my idea of fun. What I don't understand is why this mistake wasn't rectified straight away. It's pretty obvious that the reason the Valentine gets a reduced MM is because of its gun so why would you change it?

I wonder how many people with have purchased it, if it wasn't for the MM - I certain wouldn't as I like a challenge but tier V tanks will rip it apart and it will have no hope of responding.

p.s. Before anyone says either flank them (trying flanking anyone in this slug) or look at the AMX40 (one bad tank doesn't justify another one) ... don't ...

 drindra, on 20 July 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

It is reduced compared to test 1 where they increased it too much.

 Homer_J, on 21 July 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

... but it's still increased over 7.4 which is what is being said.

 Styrr, on 20 July 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

best gun of AMX40 is T4 with 74pen and 110dmg, with HE its  38pen , 175dmg
best gun of valentine is T2 with 51pen and 47dmg, with HE its 23pen , 62dmg

 drindra, on 21 July 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

I suggestively asked Overlord when the French tanks came out, if there was a mixup
with the tier 4 top guns, because the medium having more armour and a better gun,
but he said it was working as intended. So now we have 45% average victories and
no buff since then...

 Snortsch, on 21 July 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

do you know when test3 is going to be launched? or did they just tell that there will be a test3?

 Zieten, on 24 July 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

So far they only hinted that there will be a third test in a stream from some tournament.
But I only read this in the forum, didn't see the stream first hand.

Sry for giving people hope about a third version of the est server, I only read it in the forum myself.
The patch just got out in Russia, so there will be none.