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realkaischi #21 Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:23 PM

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i had over 10k games before reaching the batchat. Im more a med driver and i remember the wonderful amx 13/90 and lorraine before the nerf!!

In the moment im very satisfied with the T10 Batchat. The tank works if: 1. there r enough other t10s, so ur team doesnt realy on u and u can be in the (little bit) scout+ second line and then attack wheres its necessary role! 2. ur own team is not a total fail 3. URSELF r not a total fail: this tank needs concentration to play!

its just epic to be fast at a spot and release 5 deadly shots!

xy876 #22 Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:26 PM

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View PostEarl_Grey, on 01 August 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Is that not the same for any gun though? I thought 0 dmg was just a bad dice roll rather than anything to do with the strength of the gun.

It's normal on targets that have high armor. Ok the Maus has bounced many shots (even though I was attacking from rear btw), that has lots of armor. But it does it on paper targets too and not just rarely.

Well this may happen on other tanks too. I played the BatChat mainly, but I see others are experiencing more 0 damage shots on other tanks too.

Edited by xy876, 01 August 2012 - 04:37 PM.


Yukikaze501 #23 Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:37 PM

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Well Batchat was the reason to play this game is just amazing but as u can see are many people that just replay because they don't have nothing to do and of course blabla..... please all of the people that doesn't have this tanks keep quiet until  you have it.

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Firecam #24 Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:59 PM

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View Postrealkaischi, on 01 August 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

In the moment im very satisfied with the T10 Batchat. The tank works if: 1. there r enough other t10s, so ur team doesnt realy on u and u can be in the (little bit) scout+ second line and then attack wheres its necessary role! 2. ur own team is not a total fail 3. URSELF r not a total fail: this tank needs concentration to play!

It works if you play it as an armorless TD with a turret and horrible gun depression - deploy to some bush, wait for target to be spotted, unleash your 5 shot salvo and hopefully get a penetrating hit or two, retreat, reload in 40 seconds and repeat. 6000 credits per drum means there are better TDs at tier 10 that can deal more than just 800 damage every 40 seconds, with lower costs.

von_chom #25 Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:23 PM

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well, i never had such a hard times with batmobile before

Furzy #26 Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

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I Like the 105 Smash and Run and Run like hell :)

AdmiralHipst3r #27 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:05 PM

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I played a few games on my Batmobile today.  In the first I came across another BatChat while it was reloading and hit and penetrated him with 4 of my 5 shots.  He lived, Arty killed me, he reloaded and got away.  Note that while it would be possible to kill another BatChat from 100% if all five of your shots do damage, you and he both have the lowest health and weakest armour of the t10 mediums, so it's not possible to kill another t10 medium one on one unless you get lucky and blow up his ammo rack.

Next game I slip around the flanks and come across an isolated JpE-100 with his back to me.  First shot missed, which turned out to be irrelevant because even with all four other shots penetrating and doing damage he ended up still on 37% .  Which kind of begs the question - if the BatChat cannot slip around the flanks, get behind the big enemy guns and kill them, what the hell is it for?  Is it just a Tier 10 scout now?

Hanus666 #28 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:11 PM

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wow so many people that always go to the crying saying, you obviously don't know the difference, if there was swearing etc then that's raging and qqing, so if you don't know the difference then you need to go read up on the difference as people will say my explanation was simple and not raging was just stating a fact so stop being kids and grow up i mean seriously, makes you look so childish for acting like that and calling me names, i think people will agree with me over your comments!

GTRaPToR #29 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:12 PM

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You've only played 4 games with BatChat. What the f*ck are you even talking about?
Did a 3BatChat platoon today, ate them all like cookies. BatChat still rocks. Learn to use it.

Edited by Xzi, 01 August 2012 - 10:15 PM.


Eeti #30 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:16 PM

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Are these forums filled with kids or just retards?

Whining how 2 degrees traverse nerf "destroys a tank".

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Hanus666 #31 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

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maybe if you played it before the patch then your understand, but unless you've played it like a player said a while ago then don't come in here being a troll, kids like you people trolling is what ruin's games so just grow up, we don't want world of tanks getting a bad name due to troll's!

oldstyleh #32 Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:28 PM

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considering high amount of such topics like u destroyed bat, u destroyed t-54, u destroyed e-50. I bet 10$ that most whiners would say u destroyed tank even if its hp was decreased by 1 :Smile_trollface-3:

PRO_MEMBER #33 Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:57 AM

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Yeah, now it turns really slowly, specially at low speeds. But on the other hand, HP buff is nice, aiming time buff is nice, accuracy on the move buff is nice, new gun is awesome. Yes, its only 5 shots, but burst is higher, its almost 2000hp now.

Play stile changed a bit now. First go TD mode and damage enemies. When their lines thin up, gather up speed, do some drive by shooting. Bam bam bam, 3 dead.

hopeasusi #34 Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:16 AM

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View PostJingles, on 01 August 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

I played a few games on my Batmobile today.  In the first I came across another BatChat while it was reloading and hit and penetrated him with 4 of my 5 shots.  He lived, Arty killed me, he reloaded and got away.  Note that while it would be possible to kill another BatChat from 100% if all five of your shots do damage, you and he both have the lowest health and weakest armour of the t10 mediums, so it's not possible to kill another t10 medium one on one unless you get lucky and blow up his ammo rack.

Next game I slip around the flanks and come across an isolated JpE-100 with his back to me.  First shot missed, which turned out to be irrelevant because even with all four other shots penetrating and doing damage he ended up still on 37% .  Which kind of begs the question - if the BatChat cannot slip around the flanks, get behind the big enemy guns and kill them, what the hell is it for?  Is it just a Tier 10 scout now?
Umm. finishing off targets from the back, not killing anything in one go. If it had the potential of one shotting other tier 10s in one go it would be plain OP, just park infront of someone and blast away kind of OP.

If it truly sucks it'll get some buff in the next patch, as it's not german.

Edited by hopeasusi, 02 August 2012 - 07:16 AM.


azakow #35 Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:22 AM

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I do notice the difference in turning behavior (on the spot) only. The mentioned "inabilities"  due to travers speed change are noticed marginal only.

Maybe this is due to the skill training of my driver. He is an 100% expert on "Clutch Breaking" and Off-Road".
Since this vehicle is some what special in comparison to other MT10, I expect it to demand individual vehicle specific crew skill training decisions of the garage manager.

P.S.:
It may not be the correct topic and you may not believe, how these driver skills change the turning behavior of the VK1602 Leopard, which is known to suck most when it comes to turning and "circle of death".
Easy reference:
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Yukikaze501 #36 Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:23 AM

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I am a fan of this tank but now is just a bloody expensive tank destroyer if i wanted a tank destroyer i will have a obj 261 .



This tank really su**s like a destroyer

*Is not a scout with good turning
*paper armor
*expensive like hell
*it doesnt follow the main characteristics of the french line (FUN, speed , annoying like a mosquito)
*it take long time to accelerate now.

it will be better that just they upgrade to tier 10 without add extra weigth , worst accel , the gun.


And for the guy that say it rocks well he was playing platton of 3 yep how many people is online at the same tme than you playing batchat from ur list of friends rabishhhhhhhh.

Yozzman #37 Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:40 AM

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Cornering feels somehow slow, acceleration is also slower.
Doesn't feel like the 7.4 bat.
In CW we used it as an scout, but whe have to take a good look now which med is best for that.

I like the new gun ofc, better pen :)
Old one bounced even on rear of IS4/IS7 sometimes

Edited by Yozzman, 02 August 2012 - 08:42 AM.


Mordante #38 Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

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I already rammed some team mates with the "new and impoved" Bat Chat because it used to turn a lot better. While driving on a city I hit some friendly tanks when I drove around the corner. This because the Bat Chat used to be great at fast cornering now the turning circle is BIG and that sucks.

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View PostJingles, on 01 August 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

I played a few games on my Batmobile today.  In the first I came across another BatChat while it was reloading and hit and penetrated him with 4 of my 5 shots.  He lived, Arty killed me, he reloaded and got away.  Note that while it would be possible to kill another BatChat from 100% if all five of your shots do damage, you and he both have the lowest health and weakest armour of the t10 mediums, so it's not possible to kill another t10 medium one on one unless you get lucky and blow up his ammo rack.

Next game I slip around the flanks and come across an isolated JpE-100 with his back to me.  First shot missed, which turned out to be irrelevant because even with all four other shots penetrating and doing damage he ended up still on 37% .  Which kind of begs the question - if the BatChat cannot slip around the flanks, get behind the big enemy guns and kill them, what the hell is it for?  Is it just a Tier 10 scout now?
So you're whining because it can take off 80% of a JPE-100s health and then run away? Why do you have to be able to kill it with one magazine?

DeathByDribbling #40 Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:15 PM

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Turning circle is worse, but the big killer is being tier 10.  If you are tier 10 you need to be taking or giving out a lot of damage or your team loose because you are worth a lot.  BC obviously can't hold the line, and trade shots like an IS7.  It also doesn't have great DPM so total damage it's handling out isn't amazing like an M48.

It is great at killing isolated tanks, but that's a late game skill - and isn't enough if the game is already lost by then.  If it's a game with lots of tier 10's then having a BC is wonderful, but if you only get 1-2 tier 10's then BC is up against it.

Edited by DeathByDribbling, 02 August 2012 - 04:16 PM.





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