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tigerstreak #1 Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:35 AM

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what happened to the axis pows in russia after the war?

surely when italy joined the allies, the russians didnt have to treat them as pows?
romanians +hungarians... what happened to the lesser evil part of the axis?

Tigger3 #2 Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:46 PM

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They were POW's just like the German troops. Many died in the labour camps, those that survived were returned home after the war (in some cases into the late 1950's).

Some Polish prisoners captured in 1939 by the Soviet Union had it a bit better in that they were released and became the Anders Army and fought with the British Commonwealth, others joined the Soviet Forces (while more still remained in Soviet Gulags).

Romanian units along with Bulgarian units that turned on the Germans were brought under Soviet control and became in effect part of the Soviet Forces. Those that were captured fighting against the Soviets were kept as POW's (even if they were captured prior to the countries changing sides).

Freed Soviet POW's were not treated any better really with many being forced into penal battalions or sent off to Soviet work camps.

deamy #3 Posted 02 August 2012 - 03:22 PM

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View Posttigerstreak, on 02 August 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

what happened to the axis pows in russia after the war?

http://en.wikipedia....he_Soviet_Union

According to some sources, the Soviets captured 3.5 million Axis servicemen (excluding Japanese) of which more than a million died.[59] One specific example of the tragic fate of the German POWs was after the Battle of Stalingrad, during which the Soviets captured 91,000 German troops, many already starved and ill, of whom only 5,000 survived the war.

German soldiers were for many years after the war kept as forced labour. The last German POWs (those who were sentenced for war crimes, many times without sufficient reasons) were released by the Soviets in 1955, only after Joseph Stalin had died.[60] At least 54,000 Italian POWs died in Russia, with a mortality rate of 84.5%.



This was not limited to axis soldiers however: many of the prisoners the Germans kept were "liberated" just to get jailed (or worse) again. My great-grandfather as Polish, captured by the Germans in -39, "liberated" by the Russians in -44 and sent of to a labour camp Siberia. He was released in -53, nine years later. The Soviet camps were largely worse than the German camps, and those weren't exactly nice places.

tigerstreak #4 Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:13 PM

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thanks for the answers.
i thought some guys would have personal information

TheDOD #5 Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:59 AM

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Same as happened to 20mio other people. Because Joseph was very nice man. Sent bouth his own people to these nice Summer camps

I have a Grand-grand Father who was exectuted or Sent to labor camp in 1930'. He was a German Jew engineer. So he emigrated to Russia. But in 33' or bit later, just one day got taken by NKVD.

Later in 80', my mom's history teacher usually travelled between USA and USSR, so he gathered History from different sides. Ones he got a whole list about exectuted people, and my mom found the name of my grand-grand Father. Harsh times, where 2 think saved the Russia (and other SOvjet countries) American bombardment with Food and Leands lease Railways

tigerstreak #6 Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:54 PM

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View PostTheDOD, on 03 August 2012 - 06:59 AM, said:

Same as happened to 20mio other people. Because Joseph was very nice man. Sent bouth his own people to these nice Summer camps

I have a Grand-grand Father who was exectuted or Sent to labor camp in 1930'. He was a German Jew engineer. So he emigrated to Russia. But in 33' or bit later, just one day got taken by NKVD.

Later in 80', my mom's history teacher usually travelled between USA and USSR, so he gathered History from different sides. Ones he got a whole list about exectuted people, and my mom found the name of my grand-grand Father. Harsh times, where 2 think saved the Russia (and other SOvjet countries) American bombardment with Food and Leands lease Railways
wasnt that one of the odd things about ww1+2?
ww1, jews were treated bad in russia. so alot went to germany +fought for the germans.
ww2 even jewish iron cross winners had to listen to psychiopaths spout bullshit +worse

Sotahullu #7 Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:36 PM

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View Posttigerstreak, on 05 August 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

ww2 even jewish iron cross winners had to listen to psychiopaths spout bullshit +worse

During Continuation War, 3 Finnish Jews got Ironcross. However, all refused.

Stalker874 #8 Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:36 AM

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"3,127,380 taken by USSR (474,967 died in captivity)"




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