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[FrankyK]

Hello everyone,

Usually, a tank has two national insignia on its top turret, one on the left and one on the right side of the turret. But since 0.7.4, some tanks (but not all tanks) have only one national insignia on the top (upgraded) turret, the second insignia is missing. Look at this picture of the Panther II. As you can see, the national insignia on the left side of its turret is missing:



Note that not all tanks are affected by this bug. For example the Tiger (H), Tiger (P), Panther II and Loewe have this missing second badge, whereas the Tiger II (King Tiger) has no problems and shows the usual two national insignia on its upgraded turret.

I finally found the source of this problem by comparing the xml-file of a "bugged" and "non-bugged" tank in the client. So, I compared the Panther_II.xml and PzVIB_Tiger_II.xml files:  The source of the problem is the corresponding xml-file (here: panther_ii.xml), which has a missing parameter.

Let's take a look at the section for tank emblems in the PzVIB_Tiger_II.xml file:

Quote

<emblemSlots>
  <player>
   <rayStart> 0.984029 0.549456 0.941855 </rayStart>
   <rayEnd> 0.648107 0.354257 0.846704 </rayEnd>
   <rayUp>0.000000 1 0.000000</rayUp>
   <size>0.32</size>
   <hideIfDamaged> false </hideIfDamaged>
  </player>
  <player>
   <rayStart> -0.984029 0.549456 0.941855 </rayStart>
   <rayEnd> -0.648107 0.354257 0.846704 </rayEnd>
   <rayUp>0.000000 1 0.000000</rayUp>
   <size>0.32</size>
   <hideIfDamaged> false </hideIfDamaged>
  </player>
  <inscription>
   <rayStart>1.02558 0.539714 -1.25688</rayStart>
   <rayEnd>0.680429 0.350594 -1.18544</rayEnd>
   <rayUp>0.000000 1 0.000000</rayUp>
   <size>0.78</size>
   <hideIfDamaged> true </hideIfDamaged>
   </inscription>
</emblemSlots>

Now, take a look at the section for tank emblems in the Panther_II.xml file:

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<emblemSlots>
<player>
  <rayStart>0.975196 0.447583 0.20727</rayStart>
  <rayEnd> 0.690043 0.313665 0.151113 </rayEnd>
  <rayUp>0.000000 1 0.000000</rayUp>
  <size>0.32</size>
  <hideIfDamaged> false </hideIfDamaged>
</player>
<inscription>
  <rayStart>-1.08751 0.437197 -0.116207</rayStart>
  <rayEnd> -0.727601 0.281065 -0.194248 </rayEnd>
  <rayUp>0.000000 1 0.000000</rayUp>
  <size>0.78</size>
  <hideIfDamaged> true </hideIfDamaged>
</inscription>
</emblemSlots>

Do you see the difference? The bold coloured lines of the PzVIB_Tiger_II.xml file are missing in the Panther_II.xml file. These bold coloured lines/parameters define the national insignia on the other side of the turret, they are the "mirror image" of the first national insignia parameter (note the "-" in front of the values which define the location of the emblem).

To solve the problem, WG just has to add these missing lines to xml-files of the affected tanks like Panther II, Tiger (P) etc. As soon as I have access to my private PC again; I'll upload a fixed version of the Panther_II.xml file for reference; if needed.

Thanks for listening and hopefully, WG fixes this glitch in 0.8.0 or earlier!

[Hoffmannov]

did you send it to support aswell??
since posting on the forums is kinda pointless if you want to reach WG.

kind regards,

[kwk75l48]

It happens quite a lot I always thought it was intended.
Tbh german crosses were usually hull placed and in combat most turret side markings were accidently removed or pianted over to stop enemy using them as targetting ques.  

id be quite happy to have no national emblems at all,  except the upcoming uber cool Uk ones

[FrankyK]

Hoffmannov, on 02 August 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

did you send it to support aswell??
since posting on the forums is kinda pointless if you want to reach WG.

kind regards,

Thanks for the idea, I submitted a ticket. I hope it helps.

[Ev1n]

Hi guys,

Nice code analysis there. As far as I'm told, some insignia (of all nations, not only German ones) were removed as part of a redesign process. They will either be restored or replaced in the future.

If you really miss them a lot, just rotate your turret or hull!

Cheers,

[FrankyK]

Ev1n, on 03 August 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Hi guys,
Nice code analysis there. As far as I'm told, some insignia (of all nations, not only German ones) were removed as part of a redesign process. They will either be restored or replaced in the future.
If you really miss them a lot, just rotate your turret or hull!
Cheers,

Since in one of the future patches (I assume 0.8.0), WG plans to add purchasable insignias for each tank (icons, symbols, names), this might be a way to "encourage" people to buy some of these new gimmicks.

Edit: For those people who want to use my modified files for the Iger (P) and Panther II, I uploaded them:

 Panther_II.xml   24.2K   6 downloads  PzVI_Tiger_P.xml   24.56K   1 downloads

Edited by FrankyK, 04 August 2012 - 05:05 PM.

[FredTMK]

Ev1n, on 03 August 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Hi guys,

Nice code analysis there. As far as I'm told, some insignia (of all nations, not only German ones) were removed as part of a redesign process. They will either be restored or replaced in the future.

If you really miss them a lot, just rotate your turret or hull!

Cheers,

Okay its nice to know why they were removed, but why are they now removed and not in the said patch??? Damn its always been like that, WG removes something to make some other stuff work thats implemented 3 patches later.

[ColonelD]

hi, thanks for the xml fix, my tiger (right side) & Hetzer (left side) are also missing the Balkenkreuz, and is there also a way to put all insignia back on the front too?
and yesEv1n, I do rotate my turret a lot, cheers