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why is Churchill such a scam ?

ico's Photo ico 03 Aug 2012

Aren't premium tanks supposed to have low repair costs so you can make credits with them.
The repairs of Churchill are 2500-3000, that's like standard repairs for a T5 tank.
It gets mostly into T5 and T6 games where its crap T4 gun is useless. Nothing about money making when you can hardly damage tanks.
In general it earns less money than a T5 tank, has the same repairs, horrible gun, horrible speed, I would call this a scam of a premium tank.
Only because of the speed I often can't damage anything because everyone is faster, they get to the enemy faster and kill them before I can get there.
And the armor is a joke, T4 tanks can damage it easily, very vulnerable to HE one shot 50% dmg.

WG should give players full refund for this scam.
Edited by ico, 03 August 2012 - 03:19 PM.
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mr3awsome's Photo mr3awsome 03 Aug 2012

it isn't a scam
the gun is very nice
the speed is ok
the earnings are good
and the repair doesn't matter becuase you'll make a profit unless you suck at playing with it
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XiTiX's Photo XiTiX 03 Aug 2012

What a ridiculous thread. May I suggest you study premium tier V vehicles. You will find Churchills gun has highest penetration, highest HP, same RoF as Ram II. In proper hands it earns really nice amounts of money.
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Schnurx's Photo Schnurx 03 Aug 2012

 ico, on 03 August 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Aren't premium tanks supposed to have low repair costs so you can make credits with them.
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WG should give players full refund for this scam.

I don't think that you actually have even the slightest clue. I'm playing the churchill since I bought it for half and I normally get quite a good income.
The gun has not much damage, but nice penetration, works even frontally on KV Hull. And an awesome firing rate. Of course it happens that you don't manage to really get into the fight, but if you mostly don't manage that, then you don't think before you drive....
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Solaxe's Photo Solaxe 03 Aug 2012

 ico, on 03 August 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

It gets mostly into T5 and T6 games where its crap T4 gun is useless.

And what do you expect? Churchill in tier I battles??

It's a tier V tank so it meets tier V enemies, l2p. In one of the battles I managed to kill 4 enemy tanks at once thanks to Churchill's insane rof.
Edited by Solaxe, 03 August 2012 - 03:23 PM.
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ico's Photo ico 03 Aug 2012

 XiTiX, on 03 August 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

May I suggest you study premium tier V vehicles.
You will find Churchills gun has highest penetration, highest HP, same RoF as Ram II. In proper hands it earns really nice amounts of money.
so you say T5 premiums are just scam tanks, why are they T5 if they have underpowered T4 guns
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saml6131's Photo saml6131 03 Aug 2012

 ico, on 03 August 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

so you say T5 premiums are just scam tanks, why are they T5 if they have underpowered T4 guns

Because they are supposed to be better than a stock tier 5 tank, but worse than an Elite tier 5 tank.
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XiTiX's Photo XiTiX 03 Aug 2012

No, Mr. trololo, All I am saying that as far as premium vehicles go, Churchill is doing fine. I have or had at some pont all tier V premiums and can't complain about any of them. They are not meant to make you steamroll everything on battlefield with you invincible vehicle. Just to give you some more earnings than their free counter parts.
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Tarskin's Photo Tarskin 03 Aug 2012

Churchill is amazing.... if you feel the way that you do than the problem is obviously between the screen and the chair *shrug*
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Archoney's Photo Archoney 03 Aug 2012

Churchill is my favourite tier 5 vehicle so far. Credit earnings are good (not best but still..), exp earning are great, and it is very fun tank to play.

I don't know why you have problems with it... maybe try to change your gameplay in this tank?
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ico's Photo ico 03 Aug 2012

 XiTiX, on 03 August 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

Just to give you some more earnings than their free counter parts.
That's the scam
Churchill doesn't give any more income, less income than a T5 with the same repair costs.
A Pz4 would make at least 50% more credits than this scam.
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bitter_fremlin's Photo bitter_fremlin 03 Aug 2012

At least the OP is consistent (even if that's "consistently wrong").

BTW ico, that's not a bad win rate you have in your "scam tank". Congrats on overcoming all its flaws!
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Flyntlock's Photo Flyntlock 03 Aug 2012

Oh i love my Churchi, its dream of a fun tank and get in the right match you can burn through the opposition like a hot knife through butter.
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Tarskin's Photo Tarskin 03 Aug 2012

 bitter_fremlin, on 03 August 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

At least the OP is consistent (even if that's "consistently wrong").

BTW ico, that's not a bad win rate you have in your "scam tank". Congrats on overcoming all its flaws!

58% indeed after a decent amount of battles... funny how he is still crying about how shitty it is *shrug*
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Nekomancer's Photo Nekomancer 03 Aug 2012

 ico, on 03 August 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Aren't premium tanks supposed to have low repair costs so you can make credits with them.
The repairs of Churchill are 2500-3000, that's like standard repairs for a T5 tank.
It gets mostly into T5 and T6 games where its crap T4 gun is useless. Nothing about money making when you can hardly damage tanks.
In general it earns less money than a T5 tank, has the same repairs, horrible gun, horrible speed, I would call this a scam of a premium tank.
Only because of the speed I often can't damage anything because everyone is faster, they get to the enemy faster and kill them before I can get there.
And the armor is a joke, T4 tanks can damage it easily, very vulnerable to HE one shot 50% dmg.

WG should give players full refund for this scam.
Learn to aim, learn to hide your tank from SPGs (they can hurt anything in this game! Even birds) Also, don't show your side to enemy tanks, your front has 176mm, i'd like to see a Tier 4 tank that can penetrate that. Surprise, they can't.

Although i love to pen the turret with my KV-1, still i have to be very careful with a Churchill, if a smart player is using it, he can really ruin my day.
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ico's Photo ico 03 Aug 2012

 bitter_fremlin, on 03 August 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

BTW ico, that's not a bad win rate you have in your "scam tank". Congrats on overcoming all its flaws!
don't care if that thing doesn't make money and have high repairs

 Nekomancer, on 03 August 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

Also, don't show your side to enemy tanks, your front has 176mm, i'd like to see a Tier 4 tank that can penetrate that. Surprise, they can't.
the goddamn turret
Edited by ico, 03 August 2012 - 03:34 PM.
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Tarskin's Photo Tarskin 03 Aug 2012

2.5k is high repair? Stop trolling already.... it ain’t funny

EDIT: Why do i always fall for these silly troll threads *sigh*
Edited by Tarskin, 03 August 2012 - 03:34 PM.
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L0ddy's Photo L0ddy 03 Aug 2012

never made a loss yet with my perm tanks and i have 5 of them!

examine your gameplay for the tank you are playing, the churchill has a damn good gun so pummel those tanks with HE.. go for damage & not kills

:)
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Tarskin's Photo Tarskin 03 Aug 2012

Noooo, don't give the guy his -1000th rep... that's what he wants... give him +1 instead!
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MatYNWA's Photo MatYNWA 03 Aug 2012

All i can say to this, that my Churchill rocks, its one of my best tank, and fun factor is also very high. Problem will be somewhere between keyboard and chair here, i think :Smile_Default: .
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