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Waffle_Pepper's Photo Waffle_Pepper 06 Aug 2012

Can someone explain me what is the difference of gameplay between french, german urss and usa spg ?
What are their role in tier V to VIII ?
I don't know what to chose !

I like My SU-5 but the damage is ridiculous sometimes ....
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Lawlus's Photo Lawlus 06 Aug 2012

play like a man and choose a tank.
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Waffle_Pepper's Photo Waffle_Pepper 06 Aug 2012

 Lawlus, on 06 August 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

play like a man and choose a tank.

I already have su-5 lorry t44 IS  vk3001H etc .... I just want to know about the arty playstyle to chose the road to take :D
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locastan's Photo locastan 06 Aug 2012

If you want high splash damage, go for russian arty. If it is high ROF, go for french autoloaders. Precision would be the germans. ;)

Americans are somewhat in-between all-rounders to me.
Edited by locastan, 06 August 2012 - 03:00 PM.
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Harbinger123's Photo Harbinger123 06 Aug 2012

Americans have the splash damage and AoE radius, Russians have raw damage when you hit, Germans have the best accuracy, (except the Obj 261, which has near pin-point accuracy but has lower damage), French have accuracy and 4 round drum in tier 8 but almost no splash.
Edited by Harbinger123, 06 August 2012 - 03:03 PM.
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Kazadar's Photo Kazadar 06 Aug 2012

To read up on the differences wiki is a good place.
The gameplay is pretty similar on most of the artys. There is some difference but its not a lot untill you get to tier VIII.

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If you want high splash damage, go for russian arty. If it is high ROF, go for french autoloaders. Precision would be the germans. ;)
Americans are somewhat in-between all-rounders to me.

USSR got the most accurate tier VIII arty.
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nacodeltoro's Photo nacodeltoro 06 Aug 2012

t5 arty are more or less the same, except maybe french one which has good mobility.

t6, s51/su14 insane damage low rof-accuracy; gw panther flat trajectory average damage and turret(not 360 turning one though) not sure about us arty, frenchie has average damage decent acc and mobility.

t7 gw tiger> one word BIG. obj212 high damage decent rof low acc. m40-43 same as obj with lower profile but slower rof. frenchie high mobility.

t8. obj261 somewhat flat trajectory compared to t6-7 russian stuff GW E big, has armor below average mobility otherwise all-rounder. T92 240mm gun nice splash awesome damage very low accuracy, hard to use when in need of direct fire. batchat 155 360 turret nice mobility 4 round magazine low damage no splash.(compared to other t8 stuff.)
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Waffle_Pepper's Photo Waffle_Pepper 06 Aug 2012

so german arty are the more user friendly ?
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kevad95's Photo kevad95 06 Aug 2012

French SPG's are somthing for them selves! If a scout come for you you have the abilety to drive allmost as fast as it and just tank destroyer mode the scout (tier 6-8). You can allso choose to moove upp with the rest of you'r team and shoot placeses enermy team doesn't exspect arty to be able to shoot, this will allso help your shot hitting fast. (good speed, good HP, good aim, autoloader, low damage each shot)

German: hummel and gw panther have great aim and they are fast and shoot fast, gw tiger can have the same gun as a tier 8 arty (gw type E) so it does a ton of damage for its tier (it can allso use AP ammo, but only recomended in close combat), Type E have a exstreme blast earea, can bounce quite a lot sometimes and smaller scouted can't penetrate it, it is allso strong vs HE ammo so its hard to counter arty you sometimes. i mostly use german arty for sitting in a corner in deal massive damage with each shot.

Soviet: SU-8 is a bit random i feel, sometimes it hits like a truck and sometimes you hit for very litle it depends on were you hit them i gess. Su-14, object 212 have a big gun that deals a lot of damage, they are both really slow, these are allso good for sitting in a corner/ arty place and just shot and deal good ammount of damage. the object 261 is something different again, its fast and have superb accrusy and do good damage. many players use AP ammo on this tank because of its penetration and accrusy.

USA arty, m37, m7 priest, m41 they are all terrible arty in my opinion. m12 is were the good stuff is starting, what the USA arty have is exstreme high damage t92 have the best blast area of all artyes and deals most damage of all artyes (alfa damage). They are all slow and have really bad accrusy, they are allso easly counter artyed

This is from my exsperience and my opinions ofc. hope this will help!

(sorry for the bad english)

-Kevad95
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Kazadar's Photo Kazadar 06 Aug 2012

USSR arties are also the first ones to get AP shells.
Edited by Kazadar, 06 August 2012 - 03:27 PM.
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Kainti's Photo Kainti 06 Aug 2012

The differences between trees are different every tier, not counting maybe the French SPGs, which are low dmg fast reload good accuracy and fast moving.

Tier 5s are really similar - not much differences, most notable: su-8 have higher arc but smaller range, hummel moves fast, m41 have wide horizontal gun traverse, didn't play french.

Tier 6:
- both russian are really slow (su-14 slower), big, with bad camo, long reload and narrow gun traverse, but have huge alpha damage for its tier and can oneshot sometimes even a t9 tank
- german arty is fast, accurate, with short reload and wide gun traverse, low shooting arc but 100% map coverage from one corner to the other, mediocre alpha damage
- us arty is really average in everything on this tier (+ turns really really slow)

Tier 7:
- russian - significant upgrade in reload time from tier 6, a bit better accuracy and aim time, but the gun is the same, and still great
- german - I have it stock now so can't say much, but it is bigger and slower than even Su-14 and have narrow (really narrow) gun traverse, quite high shooting arc, and top gun have best alpha damage of t7
- us - smallest and best camo, same damage as russian one, aims and reloads a bit longer, but have by far the best horizontal gun traverse, also turns and moves quite fast

Tier 8:
- russian - fast, really accurate, small reload time, narrow gun traverse but aiming time re-compensates it, underwhelming damage, the lowest shooting arc of all the arty, but also the fastest shell travel time (<500m shoots nearly as fast as a tank)
- german - didn't play it, but from the stats it have upgraded gun from t7, its big and slow, but have armor that lets you sometimes survive a hit from enemy lower tier arty (or obj even 261), highest shooting arc of t8 but does not have range from the map corner to the other map corner on many maps
- us - also quite small and mobile arty (but not as fast as russian), best damage in game, but huge reload and aim time and bad accuracy
Edited by Kainti, 06 August 2012 - 03:17 PM.
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Kazadar's Photo Kazadar 06 Aug 2012

 Kainti, on 06 August 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

- german - I have it stock now so can't say much, but it is bigger and slower than even Su-14

It should be faster than the SU-14. Its lighter and got more hp. Traverse is the same.
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kaiserblizts's Photo kaiserblizts 06 Aug 2012

My opinion is to use the french and the soviet

!.french has great rate of fire for tier 2,6,7 and 8 and damage are quite medish but really ,it packs more penetration(i think0. :Smile_smile:
2.soviet has great damge for tier 5,6 and 7 and rateoffire is quite good for tier ,23,4 and 8 so thats why i play them. :Smile_Default:

for germans i really want to have hummel and gwpanther but i stopped at Grille because that thing's accuracy is ridiculas.............. :Smile-angry: :Smile-angry: :arta: :arta:
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Kainti's Photo Kainti 06 Aug 2012

Get Hummel from Pz III/IV, it got it that way, that tank is really fun to drive.
Edited by Kainti, 06 August 2012 - 03:53 PM.
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mr3awsome's Photo mr3awsome 07 Aug 2012

Germans have accuracy
Russians have alpha
the others i don't know
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dudnic's Photo dudnic 07 Aug 2012

 Waffle_Pepper, on 06 August 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

so german arty are the more user friendly ?

Its good for a first arty line, starts with accurate arties (hummel, gw panther) and continues and ends with a very balanced guns (gw tiger, and typ E).
The s-51 is not really newb friendly. Obj. 212 is almost the same, with a higher rof, and I personally disliked it.
The priest is a pain until your crew reaches 95%, m41 is fun, not sure for the other usa arties, but they look good, the m40/43 is a killer.
The french t6+ arites lack damage and need a lot of skills to compensate.

Edit: AP shells for normal 'arty-ing' is only reliable with the obj. 261, the other only good for TD mode due to the dings and 0dmg/tracking.
Edited by burny1, 07 August 2012 - 10:05 AM.
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