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Not played much since 7.5. Asked my mate though and he said he was still seeing five tier spreads in none arty/scout tanks


Thought it had been hard coded to max 2 tier ?

Thundyuk, on 07 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Noob platoons
People who play tier 4 lights designated as scouts
People playing AMX lights...

Tons of reason why it can still happen.

And if you would be able to read the numerous topics about it next time BEFORE you make another topic, that would be most appreciated.

Yes it works very well for lower tier tanks. (<T8) The two tier limit doesn't include lights.
Edited by Eeti, 07 August 2012 - 06:39 PM.

Thundyuk, on 07 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Like I said they weren't.

So don't read it.

Tier 5 and espcially tier 6 amx 12t will see tier 10 tanks in match up (especially amx 12t who sees lots and is always bottom of MM matches to a tier 6 arty) as per match maker chart, we knew this was going to happen.

Is Matchmaking better? yes matchmaking is better but perfect (re tank types and player abilities)

If MM has been fixed, then why did i get to be in T9 battle with my KV-1? In platoon with Pz4...
Kv-1 and Pz4 are both supposed to be T5, nothing higher, no arti, no scout, no td, no extra, just T5.
Then why?

Negrepping noobs lurk around it seems. Pathetic.
Edited by korpakukac, 11 August 2012 - 03:01 PM.

korpakukac, on 07 August 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Pics or it didn't happen.

Nectaria, on 07 August 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

This.

From what I have gathered from the forums is that the MM has been fixed a little but still needs work. Arty partys seem to be a particular issue and a limit of 3 should be added to each side.

And yes I do drive Arty quite often and even I am sick of seeing 4,5 or even 6 pieces per side. it does not make for a fun game

no, they didn't :( now we play with 8 arty on each side :|

High tier matches get AWFUL arty parties.

Playing as tier 3 lights and mediums is also a pain in the ass now that tier 3 TD's are trolling around in tier 2-3 matches, ruining all of your fun [unless you're an M2 medium, in which case the TD's are themselves fun to troll].

Other than those two instances though, the MM is VASTLY improved.

The MM is improved, indeed. I enjoy matches more since (though I don't play nearly as much as I used to). Had a 3-man platoon saturday, played high tiers, had 12 victories in 18 matches.
Playing solo is still a lottery albeit smaller than before. I say "lottery" because you still might end up with a retarded team and lose horribly, but at least Match Maker no longer screws you.

korpakukac, on 07 August 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Probably cause someone on the other team have platooned a tier 8+ with t5 or less so to compensate that idiots the mm have taken you into such an unfair battle.

Maybe the MM increases in hours with verry low playerbase

Not seen any more than a two tier spread, other than platoons, arty, or scout tanks

Laird_Vanguard, on 07 August 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Arty party is problem only in t10 battles. I never get arty party when i play anything below tier 10. When playing tier 10 I play with batchat, so arty is more opportunity than problem if you know what i mean

There is no such thing as fixing it, the parameters have changed and now different people are moaning about different things.

Nectaria, on 07 August 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Eeti, on 07 August 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Yeah and double this.

Well as far as i can see the +1/-1 spread is indeed working, with only tier 4/5 lights (scouts) and arty being excepted. Obviously badly judged platoons still get through- i'd like to see some limits introduced to tier spread on platoons to prevent this.

I think those people who feel that the change hasn't gone far enough should remember that this solution is a compromise one. There are people who liked the MM as it was before, so this is a middle ground that is designed to satisfy the majority of players- but not all of them!

Personally, i feel its working well, and i speak as someone who liked the old MM. As i own a T-43, SU-85 and a T-28, i got quite hard hit by the Russian gun nerfs, but the narrower tier spreads has meant that this hasn't actually done too much damage (apart from perhaps the T-43; very hard to penetrate tier 9's with that 85mm!). The only other downside is the appearance now of tier 2 TD's in battle tier 2 which hurts some tier 2 tanks in those battles.

I think we all have to accept that we don't get to have everything just the way we want it- there are 100's of thousands of players in WoT, and we don't all want the same things. I think this MM change is something that we can all live with, even if we don't actively embrace it. Certainly there seems to be far less complaining about the MM now, so it must be doing something right!

If players are still seeing a higher tier spread we need to have some evidence of this with screenshots and preferably with replays.

You should see a maximum spread of 3 tiers, for example tier 5, 6 and 7.  The exception to this is arty and scouts or tanks with unique MM