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False Penetration - Please Explain

bubo_bubo's Photo bubo_bubo 07 Aug 2012

Since the 7.5 patch came out, I've been having a reocuring problem.
I shoot, it says "Penetration" or any other saying when you do a successful, damaging hit.
It leaves a penetration mark.
Shots are hitting enemy tank into the side, FLAT side.
It blinks black for bouncing, it does 0 damage.
I would understand if this happened as rare as ghost shells, but this is happening very often. Just last round it was 7 out of 9 hits.
Anyone else having this problem? Does anyone else experiences the same issue?
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Proiectile's Photo Proiectile 07 Aug 2012

wargaming`s way of tank you - ing for you`re creds.....
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estoniantoop's Photo estoniantoop 07 Aug 2012

Yes, it's known as "zero-damage bug".
http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1
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Gappa's Photo Gappa 07 Aug 2012

IS tanks I presume? Spaced armor can be a PITA :)
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Fenomenmusic's Photo Fenomenmusic 07 Aug 2012

Yes, I know what are you talking about. Last time I was able to hit a KV-1 from 100% to 1% with my Churchill, but after then, even I kept hitting the weakspots (fuel tank, ammo rack etc.), nothing happened just 0 damage penetrations. I've hit him 8 more times, then he realised I'm there, then oneshoted me on the tracks! :Smile_veryhappy:  Sometimes I even get 0 damage penetration with artillery, and that one really pisses me off... :Smile-angry:
Edited by Fenomenmusic, 07 August 2012 - 09:08 PM.
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dannone's Photo dannone 07 Aug 2012

Happened to me today... shooting an AMX12t with my T110E3, sayed "Penetration!", no damage. I mean my shell is bigger then his whole tank, how is this supposed to happen ?

proof : http://mwreplays.com...y/M8GB5ZCR9BA9/.
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Zythius's Photo Zythius 07 Aug 2012

 Gappa, on 07 August 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

IS tanks I presume? Spaced armor can be a PITA :)

Yes, what a horrible experience that must be in an IS tank - shooting as fast a machine gun in comparsion with the JP E-100. That TD cannot have bugs like this, because it can break an entire match if it happens once.
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3nglish's Photo 3nglish 07 Aug 2012

Happening pretty regular....needs sorting out ASAP
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technoworm's Photo technoworm 07 Aug 2012

before the patch 7.5 this happened to me from time to time. But now its regular, it happens pretty often.
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Eeti's Photo Eeti 07 Aug 2012

The only thing that is a bug here, is your crew saying "penetration".
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estoniantoop's Photo estoniantoop 07 Aug 2012

 technoworm, on 07 August 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

before the patch 7.5 this happened to me from time to time. But now its regular, it happens pretty often.

I wonder, does this happen less often with gold ammo?
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DeadlyFighter's Photo DeadlyFighter 07 Aug 2012

 Eeti, on 07 August 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

The only thing that is a bug here, is your crew saying "penetration".

Pretty much this. I've only found that I get a shell hole with no damage, while I get the ''penetration!'' feedback if I shoot at areas I know have spaced armour, with low pen guns, or at bad angles.
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Liff42's Photo Liff42 07 Aug 2012

False penetration:

If you stick it in her
Spoiler
it's just like real penetration, but she won't get
Spoiler
:Smile_great:
Edited by Liff42, 07 August 2012 - 09:20 PM.
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Baja002's Photo Baja002 07 Aug 2012

I though when this happens one of the modules or crew members is damaged/destroyed... yet it's show as 0 damage
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estoniantoop's Photo estoniantoop 07 Aug 2012

 Liff42, on 07 August 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

False penetration:

If you stick it in her
Spoiler
it's just like real penetration, but she won't get
Spoiler
:Smile_great:

Does this happen to you often? :Smile_veryhappy:
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kwk75l48's Photo kwk75l48 07 Aug 2012

often you do a crit in the old days they said critical hit that would be a welcome return and not effect the new perk in any real way.

its certain tanks that seem to take 500hp in the driver where as others take full hp dmg and a crit.

usually it goes like this
lorraine 6 shots loaded target 750 hp ok i can kill it hit 270 dmg , miss, hit no dmg driver poorly, hit 200dmg, hit track fell off, hit 222 dmg. miss, 'ho hum'

imho crits should be in addition to dmg and not soak chassis dmg but them im a noob, lucker, hacker so there you are.
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Meogron's Photo Meogron 07 Aug 2012

I would say it have certainly received hit commets, that commander says penetration while it actually is bounce in 7.5.
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Tinbawx's Photo Tinbawx 07 Aug 2012

 estoniantoop, on 07 August 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

I wonder, does this happen less often with gold ammo?

Yes

Gold ammo has more pen, thus a higher chance of punching through spaced armour. But it doesn´t help against modules soaking up damage.
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rockmonkey's Photo rockmonkey 07 Aug 2012

 dannone, on 07 August 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Happened to me today... shooting an AMX12t with my T110E3, sayed "Penetration!", no damage. I mean my shell is bigger then his whole tank, how is this supposed to happen ?

proof : http://mwreplays.com...y/M8GB5ZCR9BA9/.

i wish that would happen to my amx 12t :Smile_veryhappy: :Smile_veryhappy: :Smile_veryhappy:

BTW it's not a 'bug' it's a critical hit to a module or crew emeber that cause this with the help of RNG
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