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What was the First Production Jet Fighter

  1. Me 262 (11 votes [55.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.00%

  2. F-80 Shooting Star (1 vote [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. Gloster Meteor (8 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

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Grand_Moff_Tano #1 Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

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Well, i got bored and decided to open up a Test of knowledge poll to see who can get this right hehe


If the Me-262 was the first operational Jet then what was the first Production Jet fighter

Warheart1992 #2 Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:39 PM

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Heinkel He280...... 9 built , none reached operational status....... Flied from 1940 to 1943

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View PostWarheart1992, on 09 August 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Heinkel He280...... 9 built , none reached operational status....... Flied from 1940 to 1943
He 280 wasn't the First operational or Produced jet fighters

sorry, need to be a lil more specific lol

Edited by Demons_Bain, 09 August 2012 - 03:43 PM.


Gontarski #4 Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:48 PM

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Close call between the P-59A and Gloster Meteor. F-80 became the replacement of the P-59A&B because it was so bad and production was cancelled because of it. So bad it never saw action in WWII. Though the first development aircraft of what later became the P-59 had it's first flight in 1942.

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View PostGontarski, on 09 August 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Close call between the P-59A and Gloster Meteor. F-80 became the replacement of the P-59A&B because it was so bad and production was cancelled because of it. So bad it never saw action in WWII. Though the first development aircraft of what later became the P-59 had it's first flight in 1942.
The P-59 didn't actually enter Production lol

Edited by Demons_Bain, 09 August 2012 - 03:52 PM.


Ronineter #6 Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:57 PM

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out of my head was it the gloster meteor. and if i look it on wikipedia thats treu.

The p 80 was the first amirican jet fighter and the messersmith entered production after the meteor.

Edited by Ronineter, 09 August 2012 - 04:01 PM.


Gontarski #7 Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:00 PM

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View PostDemons_Bain, on 09 August 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

The P-59 didn't actually enter Production lol

It did, LOL.

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View PostGontarski, on 09 August 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

It did, LOL.

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That plane had the sad reputation that the engines fall out in mid air and they had to land in the field.

Gigaton #9 Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:12 PM

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Production (as opposed to prototypes or pre-production models) for both P-59B and Gloster Meteor seems to have started sometime in late 1943, but I can seem to find any exact* dates. Me-262 is sometime in early '44 unless I recall incorrectly again. P-80 can be ruled right out.

*Unless you are willing to take "and on Oct. 1, 1942, it made its initial flight at Muroc Dry Lake (now Edwards Air Force Base), Calif. One year later, the airplane was ordered into production, to be powered by I-14 and I-16 engines, improved versions of the original I-A." as an exact date of 1st of October 1943 for P-59B.

FearyMaus #10 Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

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It's a weird question.
Before you have any aircraft flying you have to produce it, so Me-262 was the first, produced in 1942. Meteor wasn't produced until 1943.

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View PostFearyMaus, on 09 August 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

It's a weird question.
Before you have any aircraft flying you have to produce it, so Me-262 was the first, produced in 1942. Meteor wasn't produced until 1943.
this was the sort of flawed logic i was expecting. Me 262 first flew in 1942 but didn't enter production until 1943, by then the Gloster Meteor was being produced to counteract the doodle bug or V1. The meteor entering service 2 months before the Me 262

The P-80 shooting star never entered production till 1945

Gigaton #12 Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:18 PM

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View PostFearyMaus, on 09 August 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

It's a weird question.

It's not really. It basically means "when did they client first become interested enough to order a batch of aircraft to be produced for it's use". Prototypes and pre-production models are ruled out.

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View PostGigaton, on 09 August 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Production (as opposed to prototypes or pre-production models) for both P-59B and Gloster Meteor seems to have started sometime in late 1943, but I can seem to find any exact* dates. Me-262 is sometime in early '44 unless I recall incorrectly again. P-80 can be ruled right out.

*Unless you are willing to take "and on Oct. 1, 1942, it made its initial flight at Muroc Dry Lake (now Edwards Air Force Base), Calif. One year later, the airplane was ordered into production, to be powered by I-14 and I-16 engines, improved versions of the original I-A." as an exact date of 1st of October 1943 for P-59B.

Well, my books are not specific regarding the date. But interesting to know the I-A engine was developed from the Whittle W2B they got from the British. But this first engine wasn't powerful enough for a single-engine jet (only 500kg thrust) so they opted for a 2-engine jet aircraft. Furthermore, Bell was at the same time busy buidling the "P-59" which was something different. A piston engine plane with the propeller in the rear "pushing" the plane. They opted to name the production jet plane P-59A to confuse spies.

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View PostDemons_Bain, on 09 August 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

this was the sort of flawed logic i was expecting.
I agree that "production" term makes for a flawed logic :-(

View PostGigaton, on 09 August 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

It basically means "when did they client first become interested enough to order a batch of aircraft to be produced for it's use". Prototypes and pre-production models are ruled out.
OK, that wasn't explained in the question. "to produce" means that something is made, and as I wrote you cannot fly an aircraft before you make one (unless it is a World of Aircrafts simulator ;-) ).

It looks like English "production" word is misleading here for me (speaking as a non-native English speaker).




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