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lewisunderwood #1 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

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Hi,

as WOT announced, soon we will see the Type 62 Light Tank (Tier VI) in the wild (after 24. August).

Wonder if anyone knows if there are also plans to have more light Tanks in the Tiers 6,7,8 available in the future ?

I noticed in the Battle Mechanices wiki, that there are "rooms/plans" for Tier 6-8 light tanks in the Matchmaking Charts. ( http://wiki.worldoft...cs#Battle_Tiers ). So there might be some stuff planned for other light tanks ?

Personnally, i really like the M24 Chaffee & VK2801 and play them quiet often and would really hope to see more higher tier light tanks in the future in the game.

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DeDo_Vi #2 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:24 PM

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Seeing how annoying a tier 5 T-50-2 can be, i can only shiver in the tremendous horror that would be a tier 8 light tank....O WAIT,  AMX 13 90!

Brachiaraidos #3 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:27 PM

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See my signature for further details. There is no requirement for higher tier scouts :Smile_teethhappy:

Edited by Brachiaraidos, 09 August 2012 - 11:30 PM.


DeDo_Vi #4 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:30 PM

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View PostBrachiaraidos, on 09 August 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

See my signature for further details. There is no requirement for higher tier scouts :Smile_teethhappy:
Try killing a JAgdtiger in AMX 12t When it was a tier 5, pup.

Grabarz19_PL #5 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:31 PM

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View PostBrachiaraidos, on 09 August 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

See my signature for further details. There is no requirement for higher tier scouts :Smile_trollface-3:
There is, as long as when you go further up in tiers the mobility gets worse but firepower increases. Of course the mobility is not supposed to get too bad or else the tanks wouldn't really be good as a dedicated scout, but a more healthy light with better firepower is not supposed to have a T-50-2 mobility.

Edited by Grabarz19_PL, 09 August 2012 - 11:32 PM.


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View PostDeDo_Vi, on 09 August 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

Try killing a JAgdtiger in AMX 12t When it was a tier 5, pup.

Pfft, 12t had/had DPM up the wazoo. Never did like it, though. Smaller, but somehow less fun.

View PostGrabarz19_PL, on 09 August 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

There is, as long as when you go further up in tiers the mobility gets worse but firepower increases. Of course the mobility is not supposed to get too bad or else the tanks wouldn't really be good as a dedicated scout, but a more healthy light with better firepower is not supposed to have a T-50-2 mobility.

I guess that could work. Less scout tanks, more mobile tanks that can actually hang around the front lines in a dedicated combat role. I just have a hard time imagining any way they'd be preferable to a medium or dedicated scout at high tiers.

Edited by Brachiaraidos, 09 August 2012 - 11:33 PM.


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View PostBrachiaraidos, on 09 August 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Pfft, 12t had/had DPM up the wazoo. Never did like it, though. Smaller, but somehow less fun.

The acceleration was good, tough top speed and turning rate are way in favor to T-50-2

Edited by DeDo_Vi, 09 August 2012 - 11:34 PM.


lewisunderwood #8 Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

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Sorry, missed the French, my mistake.
But for me personally,i do not like the Revolver system that much.

The French "Lights" are fine. But i wonder if there is also something new planned for US/USSR/GER (UK in future).

Edited by lewisunderwood, 09 August 2012 - 11:34 PM.


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The french lights are different to your typical scout tanks. They are not as fast or manuverable, and their guns still pack a punch (well, the gun is the Chaffee is great but that;s an exception). So they can be used for other stuff too.

But back on topic, I was pretty sure I saw somewhere that they didn't plan to implement them, as fun as that would be- I have all the tier 5 lights, and plenty of xp to research the upgrades if they ever come! :Smile_glasses:

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View PostDeDo_Vi, on 09 August 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

Try killing a JAgdtiger in AMX 12t When it was a tier 5, pup.

Try killing a JT now it's tier 6, try killing a Obt 704... I did yesterday it took me 12 shots

View Postlewisunderwood, on 09 August 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Sorry, missed the French, my mistake.
But for me personally,i do not like the Revolver system that much.

The French "Lights" are fine. But i wonder if there is also something new planned for US/USSR/GER (UK in future).

52 matches in amx 12t which most were defeats before 0,7.5... yeah your a real 'pro' on current affairs for french lights.. no offence but please don't say they are fine. Try playing 400ish matches on amx 12t to get it elited in solo randoms.

At the OP...
Tier 6/7 lighst should be introduced to balance up the appearance of amx 12t on a team, currently MM will pull ing a tier 6 arty or heavy or tier 7 medium as it's 'balance'. It won't happen and if it it does it will be tier 6 version equal to that annoying t50-2.











EDIT and lewisunderwood neg reps because he got told the truth... GJ mate... thus proving my point

Edited by rockmonkey, 10 August 2012 - 02:35 AM.


lewisunderwood #11 Posted 10 August 2012 - 12:07 AM

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52 matches in amx 12t which most were defeats before 0,7.5... yeah your a real 'pro' on current affairs for french lights.. no offence but please don't say they are fine. Try playing 400ish matches on amx 12t to get it elited in solo randoms.

Sorry mate, i cannot play 6 hours a day to get 400 matches with all my tanks i have a life beside WoT. I play for fun, that's it, i f i don't like a tank, i switch to another. ... i never said i'm a pro, i just said they are fine.

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Give me the M551 as a T8 US light tank! Oh, and:
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ATGMs as gold rounds :Smile_trollface-3:

DeDo_Vi #13 Posted 10 August 2012 - 12:58 AM

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View PostQuakeRiley, on 10 August 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

Give me the M551 as a T8 US light tank! Oh, and:
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ATGMs as gold rounds :Smile_trollface-3:

That one bounced!

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View PostDeDo_Vi, on 10 August 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

That one bounced!

Physics + firing on a slope = flip

Sliktastic #15 Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:10 AM

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Overlord mention two times that the M41 Walker Bulldog would be a good candidate (see here and here).

My personal opionion is that maybe something like this will come:

Tier V
Chaffee (USA)
T-50-2 (USSR)
VK 2801 (K) (Ger)
Crusader or A46 (UK)
ELC AMX (FR)

Tier VI
T41
Mototank MT-25
VK 2801 (DB)
FV301
AMX 12t

Tier VII
M41
BRM-1K
Aufklärungspanzer Panther
?
AMX 13 75

Tier VIII
T-92
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Spähpanzer Kette
?
AMX 13 90



Edit: The BRM-1K, Spähpanzer Kette

Edited by Staufen, 06 September 2012 - 01:08 AM.


jabster #16 Posted 13 August 2012 - 06:22 AM

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View PostGrabarz19_PL, on 09 August 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

There is, as long as when you go further up in tiers the mobility gets worse but firepower increases. Of course the mobility is not supposed to get too bad or else the tanks wouldn't really be good as a dedicated scout, but a more healthy light with better firepower is not supposed to have a T-50-2 mobility.

The problem is that if the mobility decreases then why have one instead of a lower tier dedicated scout. The applies especially to the T-50-2 and I for one would rather sacrifice its gun than its mobility.

A second problem is what role are they supposed to fill - we already have designated scouts that are more than fit for purpose against even the highest tiers. Would they just be variants on the M24 i.e. they can scout but they also pack a punch but then there is a problem that the AMXes already fill that role and many be better at it.

So sounds like a good idea but I'll wait to see just what is implemented ...

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View PostDeDo_Vi, on 09 August 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

Try killing a JAgdtiger in AMX 12t When it was a tier 5, pup.

i once parked my amx12t in a jagdTigers side. Unfortunatly, i ran out of ammo before he died.

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It's worth remembering that from the MM perspective so are the current scout tanks actually tier 6, so the new Type 62 will be the same level as them effectively. If the scout trees are to be extended then the current tier 5s will most likely be moved up to their true tier at 6.

But it would be nice to have some higher level light tanks that are not french, ie no autoloader.

ZbysiaxXx69 #19 Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:30 PM

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I was thinking about higher tiers of russian light tanks and thought - why not merge T-60/T-70/T-80 line with the one with dedicated scouts and, for example, lift the tier of T-50-2. Then we wouldn't have to look for some fantasy projects and there would be just some balancing needed... What do u think?

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They will come eventually.




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