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RV_Flowers #1 Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:33 PM

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As I see there are three different systems that can be used standard British Army, Armoured Regiment and Household Cavalry.
They are as follows:
British Army - Armoured Regiment - Household Cavalry
Private - Trooper - Trooper
Lance Corporal - Lance Corporal - Lance Corporal
Corporal - Corporal - Lance Corporal of Horse
Sergeant - Sergeant - Corporal of Horse
Colour Sergeant - Staff Sergeant - Staff Corporal
Warrant Officer II - Squadron Sergeant Major - Squadron Corporal Major
Warrant Officer I - Regimental Sergeant Major - Regimental Corporal Major
Second Lieutenant - Second Lieutenant - Cornet  
First Lieutenant - First Lieutenant - Lieutenant
Captain - Captain - Captain
Major - Major - Major

Any through or other idea's?

Edited by RV_Flowers, 11 August 2012 - 11:15 PM.


purplecustom #2 Posted 11 August 2012 - 07:07 PM

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its corporal of horse not house

LGrum #3 Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:03 AM

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Technically, as the self-propelled guns and anti-tank guns would be operated by the Royal Artillery, you might need these as well

Gunner
Lance bombardier - like lance-corporal an appointment not a rank until after the WoT period
Bombardier
Lance Sergeant
Sergeant
Troop Sergeant Major (position held by typically by Warrant Officer 3rd Class rank)
Battery Sergeant Major (WO2 ranker)

TrailApe #4 Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:50 PM

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"Technically, as the self-propelled guns and anti-tank guns would be operated by the Royal Artillery, you might need these as well"

Bet they miss this rather crucial detail.

Kazomir #5 Posted 05 September 2012 - 04:42 PM

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In-game there is Warrant Officer class 3, 2 and 1.

LGrum #6 Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:45 PM

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View PostKazomir, on 05 September 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

In-game there is Warrant Officer class 3, 2 and 1.

If wikipedia is to be believed Warrant Officer 3rd class only appeared 1938 and no further appointments were made after 1940. Seems only to have been used by the Artillery.

Kazomir #7 Posted 16 September 2012 - 01:06 AM

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View PostLGrum, on 05 September 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

If wikipedia is to be believed Warrant Officer 3rd class only appeared 1938 and no further appointments were made after 1940. Seems only to have been used by the Artillery.

Yea but thats how it is if I were to believe in wot wiki

Kazomir #8 Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:10 PM

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Major
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Captain
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First Lieutenant
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Second Lieutenant
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Warrant Officer class 1
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Warrant Officer class 2
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Warrant Officer class 3
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Staff Sergeant
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Sergeant
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Corporal
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Lance Corporal
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There you go, that's the ranks ingame. Highest to lowest. Maybe not final but thats what i've got, i know class 3 looks like major...

Edited by Kazomir, 16 September 2012 - 09:27 PM.


TrailApe #9 Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:30 PM

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No such thing as a first lieutenant is there? - a 2nd lewey just become a Lewey - or is that just a modern thing?

LGrum #10 Posted 18 September 2012 - 06:20 PM

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View PostTrailApe, on 18 September 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

No such thing as a first lieutenant is there? - a 2nd lewey just become a Lewey - or is that just a modern thing?

http://www.army.mod....ture/23155.aspx (MoD) computer says no.

Kazomir #11 Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:58 PM

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View PostLGrum, on 18 September 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

http://www.army.mod....ture/23155.aspx (MoD) computer says no.

This is almolst a 100% match :D

Kellomies #12 Posted 23 September 2012 - 08:14 PM

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Seems rather unlikely there'll be some kind of "branch-specific" distinction in the exact ranks; there certainly isn't for the French tankers, whose exact system IRL depended on whether they served in the Cavalry's or the Infantry's armoured branches (the game goes with the former; Maréchal-des-logis is a pretty sure indicator, that being a venerable rank already in Napoleon's cavalry).

soysauce #13 Posted 30 September 2012 - 10:26 PM

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Also regimental variations, private gets replaced between regiments Highlander for the Highland regiments, Guardsman for any of the guards regiments, Gunner for royal artillery.

_Buck_Kite_ #14 Posted 01 October 2012 - 12:39 AM

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Since the British tank crews (in-game) are all members of the Royal Tank Regiment different Arms/Corps/Regiment rank differences/appointments are academic !!!

And to the OP.... Squadron Sergeant Major, Squadron Corporal Major, Regimental Sergeant Major and Regimental Corporal Major are not ranks,  they are appointments.  Admitedly they are appointments normally held by WO2's and WO1's respectively.

Some examples of appointments held by WO2's are:
SSM - Squadron Sergeant Major
SCM - Squadron Corporal Major
RQMS - Regimental Quatermaster Sergeant

Some examples of appointments held by WO1's
GSM - Garrison Sergeant Major
RSM - Regimental Sergeant Major
ASM - Artificer Sergeant Major

There is such a British Military rank as a First Lieutenant, but only in the Royal Navy.  In the British Army there is no ordinal attached except for the Second Leiutenant.

Kazimir's post of the in-game ranks is correct for RTR's with the exception of a First Lieutenant even though there is some dispute over WO3 which did briefly happen with examples of WO3's in the RTR during that period of time.

Edited by MajorGeneralHughElles, 01 October 2012 - 01:12 AM.


TrailApe #15 Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

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Since the British tank crews (in-game) are all members of the Royal Tank Regiment different Arms/Corps/Regiment rank differences/appointments are academic !!!

Well at the minute we have only one tank in game (that never actually served) so, yes you are right, but once the main release happens and we get the SPG'S and Tank Destroyers as well as the gun tanks, there should (although we know there won't be) members of the Royal Artillery manning the appropriate vehicles.

Tigger3 #16 Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:45 PM

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View PostTrailApe, on 01 October 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Since the British tank crews (in-game) are all members of the Royal Tank Regiment different Arms/Corps/Regiment rank differences/appointments are academic !!!

Well at the minute we have only one tank in game (that never actually served) so, yes you are right, but once the main release happens and we get the SPG'S and Tank Destroyers as well as the gun tanks, there should (although we know there won't be) members of the Royal Artillery manning the appropriate vehicles.

Don't forget if we get an AVRE that there should be Sappers lol.

TrailApe #17 Posted 01 October 2012 - 02:46 PM

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How could I forget Hobart and his lot!

Profuse apologies, I abase myself before thee!

Tigger3 #18 Posted 01 October 2012 - 03:21 PM

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View PostTrailApe, on 01 October 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

How could I forget Hobart and his lot!

Profuse apologies, I abase myself before thee!

Darn gunners always forgetting us and we came from the same Ordnance board lol.

_Buck_Kite_ #19 Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:54 PM

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View PostTrailApe, on 01 October 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

How could I forget Hobart and his lot!

Profuse apologies, I abase myself before thee!

And what Regiment was "Hobo"????   Here's a clue - and it started with a 2.
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Edited by MajorGeneralHughElles, 09 October 2012 - 07:04 PM.


_Buck_Kite_ #20 Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:12 PM

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View PostTigger3, on 01 October 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Don't forget if we get an AVRE that there should be Sappers lol.
True.... but transfering crews would be a nightmare..... WG might insist that Manning & Records are informed. They would have to re-badge because we all know that we can't have a Wedgehead or a Dropshort in a tank.... that is as dangerous as an Officer with a map or a Matlot with a rifle :Smile_veryhappy:  :Smile_veryhappy:  :Smile_veryhappy:

They gave the AVRE to you guys with a 165mm dustbin gun..... good job it only had a range of 100-200m.  If RA had it they would say it had a range of 100-200m but in actuality the round would only go 50m  :arta:

Just a little inter-corps banter guys.  Nothing to worry about :Smile-hiding:

Edited by MajorGeneralHughElles, 09 October 2012 - 07:16 PM.






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