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Poll: Finding the right tank (88 members have cast votes)

Wich tank would fit me the best ?

  1. M 18 Hellcat (70 votes [79.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.55%

  2. T 25/2 (6 votes [6.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  3. AMX 12t (2 votes [2.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

  4. AMX 13 75 (10 votes [11.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.36%

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Steelsoupbowl #1 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:01 PM

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So recently I got a bit bored from my garage mainly filled with slow tanks and slow TDs. So after ive seen a great vid of a french light tank killing enemies on Himmelsdorf ive decidet to get a new tank.
It should :
1.be fast
2.be manoverable
3.have a fast shooting gun
4.wich is good at penetrating enemies armour and
5.have a good damage


So I want something like a little guy , who drives behind the enemie, when hes distracted by shooting my teammates . bring on some hits and then zip away. The most suitetd for this role I thought the M18 Hellcat, the T25/2, the AMX 12t and the AMX 13 75.

Id fell happy if you post your suggestions about tactics and the right tank and participate on the poll.


Good Killing, Steel

L3gi #2 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

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12 t and 13 75 are no tds :)

if you want all these points take the m18. which is good in most of them.
it is fast but not that agile, so as the turret is slow in turning.
dmg / pen is good.
tank is out of paper

t25/2 is bit slower. but superior to m18 nearly in the rest

Edited by L3gi, 19 August 2012 - 02:07 PM.


typhaon #3 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

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The last two are no TDs....

I'd suggest the M18, because it's the fastest TD out there... maybe rivalling with the T49.

Brachiaraidos #4 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

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T-50-2.

Fo srs.

Deadeye_DK #5 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

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I havent tried any of the 4 your mentioning in the poll. Gave up grinding XP on slugger and wolverine, for the next tiers.

But one I found to be what your talking about, is the Jagdpanther II.
Its pretty much the Jagdpanther, but mounted with Ferdinand's top gun. Fast, highly manoberable, not really that big a tank, and packs a good punch. Maybe not the best RoF, but certenly not the worst either.

BioIdra #6 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:09 PM

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I'd say you should get amx 13 75/90 which has all you ask for, but if you want a TD hellcat is the only one fast enough also if it's damn slow to turn

Matevz96 #7 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:15 PM

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well for me best "fast" TD is T25, when you learn how to use its slope armor you are really hard to penetrate

kikox #8 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:20 PM

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M18 has a 72 km/h top speed which is actually quite easy to obtain and maintain. A real good TD :D

Gremlin182 #9 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:24 PM

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You missed out the ELC AMX thats more of a TD than the AMX 12 and 13 lower tier and 90mm gun.

I know many play it as a fast scout well its a mean TD as well

punishersal #10 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:30 PM

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T49 is nice little TD with good gun and speed. And it has rotating turret.

Solaxe #11 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:31 PM

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French TD's above tier 7 are very fast

bravotango #12 Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:33 PM

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I don't recommend 13 75, after tier change it's not enjoyable. You are constantly at the bottom, since you are considered as a scout. Get 13 90 instead, for fun. If you want a fast TD, then M18 is the best, although there are some fast French TDs too, from tier 7.

Corwent #13 Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

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ELC AMX with best gun now thats fast TD.

Steelsoupbowl #14 Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

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As first thank you for so mayn replies in so much a fast time :Smile_Default:
Because so many of you mentioned, of course I know, that the french tanks are no TDs I just thought with theire good gun (as I think) theire Drum Mag theire small shape and theire high speed I thought thei would be suited too.
But as long as the Poll wont change totally till Monday evening ,ill take the M 18
So thank you dudes :Smile_teethhappy:

Shortcake #15 Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

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it depends on the tier you want, but the yank TD line T49/Hellcat (tier 5/6) are good, otherwise 13-75/13-90 (tier 7/8).  The new ELC (french tier 5) is quite awesome if played well  (approx 40 deg turret movement) - I couldn't so I sold mine.  In my experience the Hellcat, unless it's been nerfed recently, not sure.

Steelsoupbowl #16 Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:41 AM

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Ok ill probably take the M18, but two last questions,
1.In the Matchmaking chart ive seen, that T5 Light tanks can be thrown in the highest Tier battles , so could I fight against a  Maus with the Amx 12t ?
2.Ive got around 14000 free experience left so should I skip the M8A1 or should I get some Modules when I got the T49 ?

Thank you to everybody who can answer my questions :Smile_great:

MrE158 #17 Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

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While I think the American turreted TDs are great (I'm loving the Hellcat and haven't even gotten the top gun in it yet) I don't think they're going to do what you are describing you want - yes they're fast, but they're not very maneuverable and their turret rotation speed sucks.

If you want to be able to dash around behind enemies and circle them while pounding shots into them, there's no competition to the AMX 12 and 13-75.  The Hellcat can't do that job -  it can't turn either its hull or turret (or both combined) to be able to reliable keep track of an enemy while going around them, it instead uses its speed to get to locations and relocate while carrying out a more typical TD role of sniping.

On the matchmaking for the 12t - the three Tier 5 lights which are end-of-line Scouts (T-50-2, VK2801 and Chaffee) have special matchmaking which means they'll see Tier 10 opposition, the 12t doesn't have that, it's not a specialist scout and behaves in a standard manner in matchmaking.

Don't skip the M8A1.  It and the T49 will tell you whether or not the Hellcat is going to float your boat or not.  Play through them, and decide whether their abilities are what you're looking for, save the free exp for getting the upgrades for the Hellcat.

Steelsoupbowl #18 Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:28 PM

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After my second fight in the M8a1 (got only the gun upgrade with free xp) it made click in my head,when I was standing on a little hill (speedet there with my good engine) and justa sniped on enemy after each other,so i did only get one kill ,but I was able to detect and hurt some more,and yesterday evening I got the M49 and it was just even more fun, got 1 kill and downet a M6 with the standart gun to 11%. They really arent what I wanted and ill get the french line too, but theire on theire own way great tanks and ill grind up theire tree =) Thank you guys =)

Orlund #19 Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:07 AM

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the tier 7 AMX 1946 gets really moving once you get the mid engine and the last one adds a bit more mobility. the tank after it, the 1948 is even faster and shares the engines. ( and have pretty boss frontal armor for a speedy tank like it.)

Also both the AMX 1946 and the 1948 carry superior guns to its counterparts, the 90mm and the 100mm is both excellent guns with good rof and penetration. the 120mm on 1948 is just deadly for everything ingame.

the only major problem is that the aimtime on the 90mm DCA 45 is.. weird, it has higher aimtime then stated in its stats even with full crew and ventilation.