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whatdoyouknowjoe #1 Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:40 AM

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Sorry if its a silly question but that is me

Can you please tell me what is the best gun for the kv1

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Drunk_Noob #2 Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:48 AM

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Try all available and chose the one that suits you best.

keyoke_swe_2 #3 Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:51 AM

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i think the 85mm f-30 gun is the best good loading time and ok danage

cpttomik #4 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:28 AM

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When I was playing with KV-1 I was using 122mm U-11 howitzer, this gun is good if you are facing tank which are higher tier then you becasue you will do damage every shoot, if you are using HE amo.
On the other hand friend of mine who is playing with it right now recomending 57mm becaseu of its high rate of fire, but it has problem with penetrating the higher tiers.
And the 85mm F-30 this gun was previously available on T-28 and it was monster gun on that tank, it has no problem with dealing good damage to higher tiers and desent RoF.

But as wziernick said, try all of them and chose one wich suits you.

Balz0rz #5 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:48 AM

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I never really enjoyed the 122mm myself, mostly because I got used to the derp gun of KV before it split up.

But it's pretty much your own playstyle that determines whats the best gun for you.

If you're going for KV-1S, upgrading the 122mm with KV-1 is a must though, or you'll be having hard time with that thing. :Smile_sceptic:

xCaptainObviousx #6 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:53 AM

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All guns except for the 76 mm are good, pick one that suits your playstyle.
The 85 mm have high alpha and pen but meh accuracy and DPM.
The 57 mm have high accuracy and DPM but meh alpha and pen.
The 122 mm have high but unreliable alpha and the abillity to hurt everthing you hit but have meh RoF and crap accuracy.

anemicflame #7 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:54 AM

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Matter of playstyle really. But 85mm is backbone weapon, the most popular one because decent alpha and best penetration. 122mm is a derp gun that makes it somewhat unreliable, but against tank which your HE shells will penetrate it is weapon of choice. 57mm  is my favourite because epic ROF gives you great DPM drawback is that you need to play very aggressively to use your DPM and penetration is lower than 85mm but better accuracy helps in that.

Plasq #8 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:54 AM

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I think the 85 is the best. Still playing with my KV-1 and with this gun I'm having the most fun. Good RoF, enough power to deal with tanks You will face, and the shells are twice as cheap than the 122.There are many post and polls about the best gun for this tank that You can find here if You look...

Steffenximus #9 Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:59 AM

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All things considered, 85mm gun is the best. You'll usually end up in T5-T6 battles where you can pen pretty much anything frontally and you don't have to fire a thousand shots to kill anything like the 57mm gun does. The 122mm gun isn't so great since you don't encounter many heavily armored enemies like it was before, getting in T8-T9.

GeneralTelcontar #10 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:03 AM

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I tried all 3 guns and I have to say 122mm is the best,with 85mm I had problems penetrating Pz4,while with the 122mm I can destroy Pz4 with one hit if I aim well and I can damage every tier 7,except for the IS sometimes( damn OP and over-armoured russian tanks ).As for 57mm it's good only when facing tier 5 or less.
So i recommend 122mm mini-derp

Gappa #11 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:11 AM

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View PostxCaptainObviousx, on 21 August 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

All guns except for the 76 mm are good, pick one that suits your playstyle.
The 85 mm have high alpha and pen but meh accuracy and DPM.
The 57 mm have high accuracy and DPM but meh alpha and pen.
The 122 mm have high but unreliable alpha and the abillity to hurt everthing you hit but have meh RoF and crap accuracy.

I agree with everything apart from "meh" PEN on the 57 mm - it is 120 mm PEN (on the 85 mm) vs 112 mm PEN (on the 57 mm), so not that big difference and the accuracy makes up for those lost 8 mm.

Also the RoF on 57 mm is like a machinegun - with 100% crew, rammer and vents I'm shooting every 1.94 seconds. Quite a surprise for anybody that gets too close :)

Kazomir #12 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:13 AM

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View PostGappa, on 21 August 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

I agree with everything apart from "meh" PEN on the 57 mm - it is 120 mm PEN (on the 85 mm) vs 112 mm PEN (on the 57 mm), so not that big difference and the accuracy makes up for those lost 8 mm.

Also the RoF on 57 mm is like a machinegun - with 100% crew, rammer and vents I'm shooting every 1.94 seconds. Quite a surprise for anybody that gets too close :)

And if your gunner has deadeye you are going to crittown, population you.

Marlekin #13 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:15 AM

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KV1 can try to be a churchill with its 57mm. The 85mm gives a better balance in firepower and firing speed tho, as the 57mm is hitting below 100dmg. (Less than Pz4's 75mm). So to keep up, id use the 85mm.  The 122mm is a derp weapon, which makes it too unreliable for my tastes.

2alertred #14 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:24 AM

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85 mm F-30 is best. But if you meet a enemy kv in frontal engagement aim at weak spots or it will bounce.

RangerZz #15 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:42 AM

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57mm is the best.. 8mm of penetration lower than 85mm, but it doesn't matter and it has a higher rate of fire than the 85mm with about ~100dmg per shot. I always won 1vs1 KV-1 matches against 85mm users ;) If you gonna mount the 57mm then you can aswell get rammer, 100% crew and Ventilization for it. 1.94 seconds to reload.

Edited by RangerZz, 21 August 2012 - 07:42 AM.


Weanerdog #16 Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:48 AM

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I personally like the 85mm, Decent rate of fire and nice penn for the tier also good damage.

I use the derp on the KV-2 but find the mini derp here not to my tastes, The rate of fire is slow and the gun not reliable enough for me.

I never really had much fun with the 57 mm, Rof is great penn not bad but you damage was a bit down, dpm is great but you need to expose yourself to use it. Against lower tiers this is fine but not against higher tiers.

Fiets #17 Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:03 AM

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for sure the 85mm, with his pen and rof.
just shoot the T4-5 and keep tracking the T6-7 (stay around the corner and try to hit the lower plate sometimes).

yerico1974 #18 Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:19 AM

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My KV1 has the 122 mm gun. This is a moneymaker with this gun. You can kill a Pz IV with 1 shot.  You will kill Hetzer and other lower tier tanks with one shot.
You can damage always tiers above, just like T-29 in front. I forget the 85 mm gun, and use only the 122 mm. So i prefer this gun (My M4 has always the 105 mm HE gun too :)
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GeneralTelcontar #19 Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:26 AM

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View Postyerico1974, on 21 August 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

My KV1 has the 122 mm gun. This is a moneymaker with this gun. You can kill a Pz IV with 1 shot.  You will kill Hetzer and other lower tier tanks with one shot.
You can damage always tiers above, just like T-29 in front. I forget the 85 mm gun, and use only the 122 mm. So i prefer this gun (My M4 has always the 105 mm HE gun too :)
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+1 from me,at least someone agrees with me on this one

Chillius #20 Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:37 AM

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I vote up for the 85mm. It can pen and do damage even on long distance, something the 57mm doesnt cope very well with. It seems the 57mm looses quiet a LOT of pen on distance.
57mm works very well on Churchill, but there you have faster traverse which is quiet important for the pew-pew poking stick.

PS. I have played too much derp 152mm KV-2 to take the derp 122mm seriously. Dare I say it, this gun is a joke.

Edited by Chillius, 21 August 2012 - 09:04 AM.