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nemke1706 #1 Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:33 AM

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Hi guys. Got myself V39 and I ( and mostly all other players) have big problem. It can't mount anything before I get tracks and there is no enhanced suspension equipment. So tell me how to get this 3300 exp with the stock gun from Somua S-40 (I have 2000 free exp thank god). I had problems with penetrating tier IV when I had somua.To go kamikaze or stay hidden in the base until game ends or what? Please help!

Exocet6951 #2 Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:42 AM

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Having had this same problem, I'm going to tell you what I told myself: hope to be bottom tier  so you don't fell like you're screwing over your entire team, and just sit in a bush spamming HE and enemy tanks' guns.

nemke1706 #3 Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:47 AM

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So you mean that I use HE and aim for weakspots. Thanks good idea :)

Nimble #4 Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:05 AM

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Ya HE is the only thing that works or try sneak through a open flank and cap. This tank has fairly good camo but the armour sucks so stay 3rd line defence dont try hold an area by yourself:) Good luck dude:)

Exocet6951 #5 Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:03 PM

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View PostNimble, on 22 August 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

This tank has fairly good camo
lol'd

According to this, the V39 has the second lowest camo of any tier6 TD. It sits just above the Slugger.
To give you an indication, it has 17% camo, while the other non-turreted ones sit at 24 or 25.
Plus, with the tumor on the top, it insures that at least one spot check location is set very high, so unless you find a pretty tall bush, you'll get spotted very, very fast.

m4m5m6 #6 Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:11 PM

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i didnt have the same problem

reasearched it with free Xp

but dont put on the 90mm gun(dca 45 ac) because it has to high reload time but on 105mm this 165 penetration are enough

YetAnotherNewbie #7 Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:47 PM

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Not sure if it's really needed, but as I only recently learnt how to play the ARL V39 and managed to achieve decent results with it (60+% WR, 1300+ Dmg./Battle), I thought I may as well share how I play it, and maybe you can use a tiny bit of the advice :Smile_Default:

Actually, Exocet made a comment already which is very important:

View PostExocet6951, on 22 August 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

lol'd

According to this, the V39 has the second lowest camo of any tier6 TD. It sits just above the Slugger.
To give you an indication, it has 17% camo, while the other non-turreted ones sit at 24 or 25.
Plus, with the tumor on the top, it insures that at least one spot check location is set very high, so unless you find a pretty tall bush, you'll get spotted very, very fast.

Given this fact, and the fact you are French so everyone loves shooting at you, I had to learn the hard way to stay back a little more than usual. Hence, you completely rely on your teammates for spotting. For that reason, I often wait a bit at the start to see who's going where and which teammates are advancing so that I can safely stay far behind them. Also, staying 15 meters behind a bush so you don't get spotted when you shoot works wonders, and this way you can circumvent the problem of your horrible camo values.

I also agree with m4m5m6 that the 105mm gun is the best. The aiming time is no longer 2.9 seconds as on the S-35 CA, but 2.3, so that's decent. Also, after the majority of spotters is wiped out, the higher alpha damage can save your ass in some situations. But if you don't know much about weakspots, I guess the 90 mm is your better choice :Smile_blinky:

Still, I don't like the ARL V39 at all, and hope to get to the AMX series very soon. But at least the above made the grind a little bit less painful :Smile_blinky:

RAZORLIGHT #8 Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:39 PM

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i would say, this tank is even worse than the Jagdpanzer IV!

ollonborre #9 Posted 28 August 2012 - 10:43 PM

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I used the free XP I got from that small 5% bonus you get after each battle, did not take me that long and I had fun in my other tanks in the meantime. Luckily when I finished the suspension I had almost everything already researched from my elited S-35. The only things I don't have yet are the 90 mm "how can this tier 6 pen a tier 10?" gun and ofcourse the ACL 1946.

It feels alright I suppose so far, the mobility is ok, camo kinda sucks and the armour could pretty much have been left out completely. But the gun selction you have is quite excellent. I currently run with the 105, since I prefer the stopping power and since I rather not stay in the open for to long firing of many rounds in a non armoured tank. High RoF guns are ( in my oppinion) for TDs with good armour, good accuracy or good camo. Since the ARL lacks in all of those categories I just run with the 105 so far, and play the according to the ancient tactic of "running out of cover, firing a shell and then run off giggling like a little girl while you reload". Or you could do like I do in most of my games, run out of cover, loose 50-70% of my HP, fire a shell, and then play passive during the rest of the match.

But I wonder if the 90 mm is worth it now with the changed MM? Pre 7.5 I could easily encounter tier 10 in my Jagpdanzer IV, but now I barely face tier 8. And anything below tier 8 gets pounded in to the dirt by the 105 mm. I suppose I will get it anyways since I am going to need it on the next tank, and it is fairly accurate so I can perhaps play a bit more safe and fire from afar ( which is very hard with the 105).

Che74 #10 Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:14 AM

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Simply THE WORST tank I had.

jemmyting #11 Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:49 PM

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This tank must have the worse stock gun of all, I had to use up some of my free experience as it was way too painful to play with.

Cpt_Kawa #12 Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:33 AM

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View Postjemmyting, on 13 September 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

This tank must have the worse stock gun of all, I had to use up some of my free experience as it was way too painful to play with.

Like another gun would help...this is probably the most horrible tank in this game. Its just horrible...there is absolutely nothing good about it, really fkin nothing!

View PostRAZORLIGHT, on 27 August 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

i would say, this tank is even worse than the Jagdpanzer IV!

No doubt about it!

Edit: My winrate from yesterday..oh boy :( This thing is ruining not only my stats, I am also very close to smash my keyboard into my display.

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Che74 #13 Posted 14 September 2012 - 06:31 PM

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Just submitted a ticket, not sure they care or read them though.

Tinned #14 Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:01 AM

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Where do you get that stats thingy that Cpt_Kawa is showing please?

Cpt_Kawa #15 Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

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View PostTinned, on 21 September 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Where do you get that stats thingy that Cpt_Kawa is showing please?

Here you go:

http://www.planetwot.com/

Tinned #16 Posted 21 September 2012 - 06:34 PM

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thanks

Kellomies #17 Posted 21 September 2012 - 07:04 PM

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Just got mine today - tanks for speshul WG - and was fortunate enough to have sufficient free exp to immediately research the tracks, so I guess I dodged the worst part. :P
That said, seems to be a tolerable TD thus far. Main annoyance is really the narrow gun traverse and the readiness with which the tracks get shot off... but I notice the reaction a lot of people have to getting hit with the 105mm is still as amusing as it was with the S-35 "Blue Urinal". :Smile_trollface-3:

Col_Potter #18 Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:01 PM

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Hi there

This TD is a real problem. I hate TDs that turn like ..hmm... KVx.

Slow turn, bad traverse, bad camo, tumor on top, low armor values and one hell of accurate gun. Top speed is ok but acceleration is bad. The long 90mm misses, it misses stationary targets that are fully uncovered and it misses especially while not 100% aimed or in tight situations you depend on hits. And if this is not enough, i had to say sry arty, because i got several low damage rolls, and stupid UFO tanks reached arty. I will go on sitting here and grinding while insulting my monitor, the gun, the french, Devs and whatever. I think i go back to the schneider, its way better. On top of it: if i miss with it its because of bad accuracy and not because stupid dices.

When frenchies came out, i wondered why they made the 105 schneider worse than soviet cis6s, but now i think it was the only possibility to keep it at T5 and probably T6.

Devs correct balancing the tanks depending on server statistiks (they say so). Some days ago i went to WOT-news and took a look at stats, there are some iteresting facts: ARL V39 and most surprisingly the SAU have relatively decent winrates. I wonder how they achieve this.

LMK #19 Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:56 AM

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Also the long 90mm bounces as much on T6 tanks from side and rear like it would do on T10 front.
Absloutely unreliable gun and moreover the vehicle itself.

X1376 #20 Posted 25 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

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View Postnemke1706, on 22 August 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

So tell me how to get this 3300 exp with the stock gun from Somua S-40 (I have 2000 free exp thank god).
I would advice you to go play other tanks, till you get more free xp to get Canon de 105 mle. 1930 Schneider AC. Then free gun and roll out.

Now I am a bit disagreeing with other people assement. ARL V39 is shit, especially that tumor on its roof was driving me crazy in every bush I tried to use, but if you play it carefully, you can get good winrate with it. I ended something over 60% and got even Boelter's medal.

On the positive side, the next armor seems to be great already after single fight (nearly stock still). Sold ARL V39 today after action finished and will never look back on it.

PS: You can unlock that 105mm gun on S-35 CA actually. And let's face it, S-35 CA is like a french Marder on steroids.

Edited by X1376, 25 September 2012 - 01:03 PM.