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edfrancis001 #1 Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

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JAPAN


Hi Guys, there has been some great tech trees drawn for Japan, so i Have decided to get some good images and photos of the best tree out there and place em together. Also to discuss how this faction should be played based on their historical strengths and weakness.

As a Nation Japan did not go into tank building with the same gusto as counties like France and Britain did, and while it was interested in building tanks to copy western  powers, it never quite had the infrastructure or technology in the earlier days to shine, most of its heavy industry went into Ship, followed by aircraft, while tanks were seen as a novelty, they were a logistics problem first and foremost.
Many Japanese tanks were small, fast and nimble, but lacked any Armour to speak off and firepower was based around fast firing weapons, from the light 37mm pieces to the 75 AA pieces mounted later.

To make them work in WOT without just adding fictional vehicles and stats, the Japanese must make use of certain global benefits, these being: Sneakiness and fast ROF primarily. The Japanese tanks do not have the Accuracy of the German guns, or the punch of the Russians, not even the balance of Americans, instead to make them work they would need something else, my suggestion is, that along with their fast firing guns, they have a global cammo rating, as much as 25% for lights and TD's, this when coupled with cammo skill at 133% and new paint job% Net, will make them very hard to detect until they strike.

while not as we said having the biggest guns, with how HE works in this game, they can emerge unleash a volley that will wear opponents down and then scarper, this would be very affecting on any Pacific theater maps that WG would make, that consist of jungle and bogs.
secondly they can make use in the earlier games of Amphibious units, with no hindrance to moment in any type of boggy/marshy terrain, and who knows maybe even full water crossing abilities one day.
the only other global ability they should have, at lower tiers particularly is "swiss cheese mode" - many of their tanks had very poor Armour, that on taking a hit would allow a shell to pass right through, and keep em comming, a natural 5% chance of this happening against high AP rounds would be consistent, a weakness to HE would of set this nicely.

for Arty the Japanese have some of the most powerful guns out there, inc a huge mortar  ( like arty with a high trajectory ) perfect for targeting tanks doing a bit of peek-a-boo, they alos have a good turn of speed for arty, with many tier 9's able to redeploy very quickly indeed, however ROF for these is not as good as the rest of the faction.

So here is a list of vehicles, have a look, see what you like.

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LIGHT TANKS

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/06-Tankettes/Type97-TeKe/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 97 Te-Ke Specifications
General
Type: Tankette
Crew: 2
Engine
Ikega air-cooled 4-cyl. diesel | 48 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 3.70 m | Width: 1.80 m | Height: 1.77 m
Weight: 4700 kg
Armor
Minimum: 4 mm - Maximum: 16 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 42 km/h | Power/weight: 10 hp/t | Range: 250 km
Suspension: 2-wheel bogie
Armament
Main: 37 mm Type 94 gun
Secondary: none

The TE-KE is a low tier 1 tankette, with dismal armor but a rapid firing light 37 mm, its strengths lie in concealment and its size, able to fir into many niches that it can be followed, the TE-KE in the hands of a good driver is a swift little tank

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/01-LightTanks/Type95-HaGo/p4.jpgPosted ImageType 95 Ha-Go Specifications
General
Type: Light Tank
Crew: 3
Engine
Mitsubishi NVD 6120 air-cooled diesel | 120 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.38 m | Width: 2.06 m | Height: 2.18 m
Weight: 7400 kg
Armor
Minimum: 6 mm - Maximum: 14 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 45 km/h | Power/weight: 16 hp/t | Range: 250 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: Type 94 37 mm gun
Secondary: Type 91 6.5 mm MG or 2 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

Moderately better Armour than the TE-KE, the HA-GO still has good speed, and a fast gun ( 30 RPM at 100%, ) its loses some of its stealth abilities, but still has more than enough to hide well.

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Type 2 Ke-To Specifications
General
Type: Light Tank
Crew: 3
Engine
Mitsubishi Type 100 air-cooled V-12 diesel | 130 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.11 m | Width: 2.12 m | Height: 1.82 m
Weight: 7200 kg
Armor
Minimum: 6 mm - Maximum: 16 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 50 km/h | Power/weight: 18 hp/t | Range: 186 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 37 mm Type 100 gun
Secondary: 1 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

The Ke-To is a very fast Tier 3 light tank, its longer 37mm gun has double the velocity of its parents at about 700m per second, allowing it to harm its equals and decimate lower tiers.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/01-LightTanks/Type5-Ke-Ho/p1.jpgType 5 Ke-Ho Specifications
General
Type: Light Tank
Crew: 3
Engine
Mitsubishi NVD 61020 air cooled | 150 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.38 m | Width: 2.23 m | Height: 2.23 m
Weight: 10000 kg
Armor
Minimum: 6 mm - Maximum: 20 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 50 km/h | Power/weight: 15 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 47mm gun
Secondary: 2 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

Little is known about the HE-HO, its gun is capable of tackling rival lights, and it has a great turn of speed, i can find no original photos, and have found no wreckage of one on my travels.







AMPHIBIOUS


All of Japans amphibious units were used or tested at one point, some with more success that others, as stated above their primary skill is crossing and terrain that slows you down with bogs or water, they also have higher Armour than stated due to the "prow and stern" attached to them, it does make them a bigger target and implementing a way to drop it, would be a good WG initiative.


http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/04-AmphibiousTanks/Type2-KaMi/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 2 Ka-Mi Specifications
General
Type: AmphibiousTank
Crew: 6
Engine
Mitsubishi 6-cyl diesel (241L) | 115 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.80-7.42 m | Width: 2.34 m | Height: 2.79 m
Weight: 12500 kg
Armor
Maximum: 13 mm | Minimum: 6 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 37 km/h | Power/weight: 9 hp/t | Range: 200 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 37 mm Type 1 gun
Secondary: 2 x 7.7 mm Type 97 MG

The KA-MI is slower than her peers, and has only 13mm of armor (26mm with prow) and a light 37mm gun, at 12 tons however she does have some good ramming momentum, with reduced damage to herself

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/04-AmphibiousTanks/Type3-KaChi/p1.jpgPosted ImageType 2 Ka-Chi Specifications
General
Type: AmphibiousTank
Crew: 5-7
Engine
Mitsubishi Type 100 air cooled V-12 diesel | 240 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 10.30 m | Width: 3.00 m | Height: 3.82 m
Weight: 28500 kg
Armor
Maximum: 50 mm | Minimum: 10 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 32 km/h | Power/weight: 8.4 hp/t | Range: 320 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 47 mm Type 1 gun
Secondary: 2 × 7.7 mm Type 97 MG

A Tier 4 Amphibious, the Ka-Chi, has the strongest frontal armor in amphibious mode, being 50 mm (x 2 with prow = 100mm ) dead center, however she cant depress her gun forwards without shooting herself!, she must either sacrifice her armor to use her gun's depression, or turn and shoot from the sides, despite this a very tough little amphibious

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Type 5 To-Ku Specifications
General
Type: AmphibiousTank
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Type 100 air cooled V-12 diesel | 240 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 10.80 m | Width: 3.00 m | Height: 3.88 m
Weight: 29100 kg
Armor
Maximum: 50 mm | Minimum: 10 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 32 km/h | Power/weight: 8 hp/t | Range: 320 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 47 mm Type 1 Gun & 25 mm Type 1 Gun
Secondary: 2 × 7.7 mm Type 97 MG

Much the same as it parent, this vehicle has a 25 mm cannon on a higher turret, meaning she doesn't have to drop her armor to fire down and forwards a bit, however its only a 25mm gun, and rear shot at light tanks will be the order of the day, however at 30 tons, if this rams you with its 5ft of reinforced bow, it going to be the only one surviving.




MEDIUM TANKS

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type89A-ChiRo/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 89 Chi-Ro Specifications
General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 4
Engine
Mitsubishi A6120VD 6-cylinder air-cooled petrol/diesel | 120 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.73 m | Width: 2.13 m | Height: 2.56 m
Weight: 12790 kg
Armor
Maximum: 17 mm | Minimum: 6 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 26 km/h | Power/weight: 9.4 hp/t | Range: 170 km
Suspension: leaf spring
Armament
Main: 57 mm Type 90 gun
Secondary: 2 x 6.5 mm Type 91 MG


The OTSU has weaker Armour and lower speed than the amphibious, but packs more punch with her gun, at tier 2 she has enough fire power to get the job done

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/03-HeavyTanks/Type95/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 95 Specifications
General
Type: Heavy Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
Aircraft Type 6 cyl liquid cooled | 290 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 6.47 m | Width: 2.70 m | Height: 2.90 m
Weight: 26000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 35 mm - Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 22 km/h | Power/weight: 11 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: Leaf-Spring
Armament
Main Gun: 70mm Type 94
Secondary Gun: 37mm Type 94
Others: 2 x 6.5mm Type 91

The tier 3 "Heavy" is a Med by WOT standards, its Armour is below par even then, its primary advantage is its gun, the 70mm fires a heat shell as well as HE and AP, allowing it to chew through 70mm of amour at long ranges
http://www.scribd.co...-70-mm-Tank-Gun

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type97-ChiHa/p7.jpgPosted Image



Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImageType 97 Chi-Ha Specifications

General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 4
Engine
V-12 21.7 l diesel Mitsubishi Type 97 | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.50 m | Width: 2.34 m | Height: 2.38 m
Weight: 15800 kg
Armor
Maximum: 33 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 38 km/h | Power/weight: 11 hp/t | Range: 210 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 57 mm Type 97 gun
Secondary: 2 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

Good armor and speed are the hall marks of the CHI-HA, its derp gun the 57 Type 97 however is very poor, going though less tan an inch of plate it is however semi automatic, letting you give em a burst then shoot and scoot, once upgraded the Chi-Ha is a worthy medium tank for any garage.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type2-HoI/p1.jpgPosted ImagePosted ImageType 2 Ho-I Specifications
General
Type: Medium / Infantry Support Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Type 100 air cooled V-12 diesel | 240 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.73 m | Width: 2.33 m | Height: 2.58 m
Weight: 16100 kg
Armor
Maximum: 50 mm - Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 44 km/h | Power/weight: 14.9 hp/t | Range: 100 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 99 Gun
Secondary: 1 x 7.7 mm Type 97 MG

The Ho-i is a support tank, armed with the type 99 75mm support gun, it can pump out 12-15 rounds of HE per minute, while not having the AP rounds, it makes up for this with adequate amour for tier 4 and good top speed

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type1-ChiHe/p2.jpgPosted Image
Type 1 Chi-He Specifications
General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
V-12 diesel Mitsubishi Type 100 | 240 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.50 m | Width: 2.20 m | Height: 2.38 m
Weight: 17000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 50 mm - Minimum: 8 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 44 km/h | Power/weight: 14 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 47 mm Type 1 gun
Secondary: 2 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

Often overlooked as a Tier 4 tank, would be attackers lose their smiles after a burst from its main gun, its semi automatic 47 mm gun, has one of the highest velocities in the game, at 2700 ft per second, with great accuracy, this little gun has no problems in tearing through 70mm of armor 15 times a minute with AP or HE

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type3-ChiNu/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 3 Chi-Nu Specifications
General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
V-12 diesel Mitsubishi Type 100 | 240 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.64 m | Width: 2.41 m | Height: 2.68 m
Weight: 18200 kg
Armor
Maximum: 50 mm - Minimum: 8 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 39 km/h | Power/weight: 13 hp/t | Range: 210 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 3 gun
Secondary: 1 x Type 97 7.7 mm MG

A good cross between the CHi-He and Ho-i tanks, it has nicely angled plates, a weapon that is in the middle grounds of both AP and Splash, but still has 10 RPM basic, passable armor and good speed, comparable to Pnz 4

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type4-ChiTo/p1.jpgPosted ImageType 4 Chi-To Specifications
General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
Type 4 V12 Diesel | 400 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 6.73m | Width: 2.87m | Height: 2.87m
Weight: 30000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 75 mm - Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 45km/h | Power/weight: 13 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 4 gun
Secondary: 2 x 7.7mm Type 97 MG

With it improved armor, well sloped turret sides good top speed and fast firing 75 MM AA gun, the Chi-To is the perfect flanker, appearing out of the jungle, unleashing a barrage of shells and running back into cover.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/02-MediumTanks/Type5-ChiRi/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 5 Chi-Ri Specifications
General
Type: Medium Tank
Crew: 5
Engine
BMW Air cooled | 550 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 7.30m | Width: 3.05m | Height: 3.05m
Weight: 37000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 75 mm - Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 45km/h | Power/weight: 14.8 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 5 gun & 37mm Type 1 gun
Secondary: 1 x 7.7mm Type 97 MG

The Chi-Ri has ok armor for its tier, its 75mm type 5, will pen 75mm of armor, and although 6 were built, they were to be fitted with the 88mm guns, or 57 rapid fire weapons. some nice angles give a bit of bounce, Chi-Ri 2, - i have no images of this tank.


STA1 Tier X Medium Tank
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Armor 55 mm(hull) - 114 mm(turret)
Main
armament 90 mm L/52 rifled cannon
Secondary
armament 7.62mm Browning M1919A4 machine gun
12.7mm M2 Browning machine gun
Engine Mitsubishi 12HM21WT 4 stroke V type 12 cylinder vertical air cooled diesel
570 hp / 2100 rpm, 29600 cc
Power/weight 17.14hp/t
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 200 km
Speed 45 km/h (paved roads)

The final tier X for Japan, is all round average, its Armour is low but well sloped, and it 90mm gun accurate and fast. and it has an acceptable top speed.  

TANK DESTROYERS

Japanese TD's have great guns, weak armor, good cammo and good speed, with a variety of shapes and sizes, astute player will notice ive diverted from the tree here a bit, as the ones chosen have limited info and pics, and the ones i have picked, were both seen and documented, a small change but not much


http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type5-HoRu/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 5 Ho-Ru Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 3
Engine
Mitsubishi NVD 6120 air-cooled diesel | 120 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.58m | Width: 2.05 m | Height: 2.18 m
Weight: 8t
Armor
Maximum: 12 mm | Minimum: 9 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 45 km/h | Power/weight: 15 hp/t |
Range: 145-175 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 47mm Type 1
Secondary: 7.7mm Type 92 MG

The HO-Ru packs a lethal gun for a low tier, its hyper velocity 47 mm will pen any rival from any angle, and it fires fast, being very quick for a TD, its only weakness is armor, just enough to stop rifle rounds.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type1-HoNi1/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 1 Ho-Ni I Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.90 m | Width: 2.29 m | Height: 2.39 m (hull)
Weight: 15400 kg
Armor
Maximum: 51 mm | Minimum: 25 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 40 km/h | Power/weight: 11 hp/t | Range: 236 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 90 Gun
Secondary: -

With a gun comparable to the marders, and great frontal armor on the hull, a superb top speed the Ho Ni 1 is a great TD, possibly the best Tier 3 out there.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type3-HoNi3/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 3 Ho-Ni III Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.52 m | Width: 2.29 m | Height: 2.39 m
Weight: 17000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 25 mm | Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 38 km/h | Power/weight: 10 hp/t | Range: 200 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Type 3 Gun
Secondary: -

The HO-Ni 3 is a balance between the two, again less armor, but can fire AP and HE ok speed, can have fully enclosed "turret" offering more protection

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type4-NaTo/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 4 Na-To Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 7
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 4.58 m | Width: 2.05 m | Height: 2.18 m
Weight: 15000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 30 mm | Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 28 km/h | Power/weight: 11.3 hp/t | Range: 120 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 75 mm Gun Type 4
Secondary: 7.7 mm Type 97 MG

The Na-To- Looks like a dump truck, and hit like one too, its 75mm type 4 is fast and effective, it has average amour and average speeds, its saving grace is its Turret, allowing it a 90 degree turn and great hull down abilities in the right situation.

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type2-KaTo/p1.jpgPosted Image
Ka-To, not much known about this TD, it was equipped with a 100 mm naval and anti tank gun which gives it decent firepower, and has traversable mount, but its armor is poor as is its speed compared to the rest, one to grind and drop

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Ho-Ri/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 97 Ho-Ri Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 6
Engine
BMW Air cooled | 550 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 6.50 m | Width: 3.05 m | Height: 3.10 m
Weight: 40000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 180 mm | Minimum: ? mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 38 km/h | Power/weight: 13.7 hp/t | Range: 200 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 105 mm Type 1 gun & 37 mm Type 1 gun
Secondary: 2 x 7.7 mm Type 92 MG

Ho-Ri was inspired by the Ferdinand, with similar Armour, good speed, a lighter but faster cannon - The Ho-Ri is everything the Ferdi is, use exactly the same


TIER X HO-RI 2
PROTO-TYPES - Left is the extremley bouncey looking mock up, the right, has Jtiger influences both would have had similar armour to the Ho-Ri 1, except for the heavy sloped veriety, and both would have been slower, where they are dangerous, and i do mean lethal, was the proposed weapon, the TYPE 5 150 MM AA Guns, firing a staggering 10 rounds per minute, these are probally the most dangerous TD guns in the game, luckily one of the two hulls looks fairly easy to knock out..


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HEAVY TANKS

Japan didn't go for heavies, she liked land cruisers, just didn't build em in time, its not that she didn't want them, but rather she got nuked before having a chance, as as well all know nukes put a major dampener on any plan, but here they are.


http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/03-HeavyTanks/Type100-O-1/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 100 O-I Specifications
General
Type: Ultra Heavy Tank
Crew: 11
Engine
2 x Gasoline Engine | 500 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 10.00 m | Width: 4.20 m | Height: 4.00 m
Weight: 120000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 200 mm - Minimum: ? mm
Performances
Max. Speed: ? km/h | Power/weight: 8.33 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: ?
Armament
Main Gun: 1 x 105 mm gun in main turret
Secondary Gun: 2 x 37mm Type 1 in 2 secondary turrets
Others: 3 x 7.7mm Type 97 MG

Maus like amour and speed, with a 105 gun from a destroyer, they actually built 1 and sent it to fight the rusians in Manchuria, its fate remins a mytery, its out there and would be the holy grail of tank wrecks.
http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/03-HeavyTanks/Type100-O-1(bis)/p1.jpgPosted Image
Specifications
General
Type: Ultra Heavy Tank
Crew: 11
Engine
2 x Gasoline Engine | 500 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 10.00 m | Width: 4.20 m | Height: 4.00 m
Weight: 120000 kg
Armor
Maximum: 200 mm - Minimum: ? mm
Performances
Max. Speed: ? km/h | Power/weight: 8.33 hp/t | Range: ? km
Suspension: ?
Armament
Main Gun: 1 x 120 mm long barreled gun in main turret
Secondary Gun: 2 x 37mm Type 1 in 2 secondary turrets
Others: 3 x 7.7mm Type 97 MG
Again very similar design, with added turrets. but the super powerful 120 mm long barrel. - inspiration for the Baneblade??

ARTY

love it or hate it Arty is here to stay, so here is the Japanese Arty, powerful accurate and wielding the biggest gun in the game



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The Ho-To, 120 mm short field gun, very limited info at the moment, going to have to rummage through some books


http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type4-HoRo/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 4 Ho-Ro Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.50 m | Width: 2.29 m | Height: 2.36 m (hull)
Weight: 16300 kg
Armor
Maximum: 25 mm | Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 38 km/h | Power/weight: 10.4 hp/t | Range: 200 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 150mm Howitzer Type 38
Secondary: -

Almost identical to the Stock grille, use the same

http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type2-KaTo/p2.jpgPosted Image
120 MM Naval shore cannon, - extra info would be appreciated.



http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type1-HoNi2/p1.jpgPosted Image
Type 1 Ho-Ni II Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 5
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 5.90 m | Width: 2.29 m | Height: 2.39 m (hull)
Weight: 16300 kg
Armor
Maximum: 25 mm | Minimum: 11 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 38 km/h | Power/weight: 10.4 hp/t | Range: 200 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 105mm Howitzer Type 91
Secondary: -

Less armor more blasty, that's the Ho-Ni 2 motto, slower and with less armour, its HE damage is enough to cripple many tanks

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120mm HO-Chi, again if you have any more information on these i would be glad to hear about it

TIER 8 SUPER HEAVY ARTY - (WELL THE BLAST IS )
http://ww2drawings.j.../1-Vehicles(bis)/Japan/05-SPG/Type4-HaTo/p1.jpghttp://lemairesoft.sytes.net:1945/webfr/photo/char0/102007257.jpg
Type 4 Ha-To Specifications
General
Type: Self-Propelled Gun
Crew: 7
Engine
Mitsubishi Air-Cooled V12 Diesel | 170 hp
Dimensions/Masses
Length: 6.80 m | Width: 2.40 m | Height: 2.75 m
Weight: 14300 kg
Armor
Maximum: 25 mm | Minimum: 12 mm
Performances
Max. Speed: 28 km/h | Power/weight: 11.9 hp/t | Range: 120 km
Suspension: Bell crank
Armament
Main: 300mm Mortar Type 3
Secondary: -

Biggest round in the game, each round is over 197kg in weight and most of that is explosive, however it can only elevate to 50 degree, or it falls over, so it cant quite use tru mortar attacks, as that would be evil, it will still destroy every module you and your ancestors own, on a good hit :arta:

Well thats it from me today, ive been tinkering with this and the European tree for 8 hours and need some rest, ill add the premiums and other weird bits on tomorrow, i hope you enjoy and please leave feedback


Edited by edfrancis001, 23 August 2012 - 11:44 PM.


Sturmtiger_304 #2 Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:43 PM

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No amphibius tanks, sorry. :<

Astroniomix #3 Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:49 PM

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IIRC Japan didn't have much of a tank tree. They had a handful of french "leftovers" but never really went into tank design due to the war in the pacific.

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View PostAstroniomix, on 23 August 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

IIRC Japan didn't have much of a tank tree. They had a handful of french "leftovers" but never really went into tank design due to the war in the pacific.


Not really true, they certainly didn't develop much during the earlier stage of the war, mostly tankettes and small stuff suited for jungle fighting. However towards the end of the war when it became likely that the Americans would land forces on the main Japanese islands they stepped their production up and produced quite a number of prototype tanks and vehicles intended to hold the Americans off. While most of the veciles never saw active service they have more of a right to be in the game than most of the French tanks as they were at least prototyped while the war was still going.

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View PostgrayfoxCode, on 23 August 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

Not really true, they certainly didn't develop much during the earlier stage of the war, mostly tankettes and small stuff suited for jungle fighting. However towards the end of the war when it became likely that the Americans would land forces on the main Japanese islands they stepped their production up and produced quite a number of prototype tanks and vehicles intended to hold the Americans off. While most of the veciles never saw active service they have more of a right to be in the game than most of the French tanks as they were at least prototyped while the war was still going.

True, they didn't need heavy tanks on the islands, they needed little ones that could nip around the place, when invasion was imminent, they looked at other designs, and as you can see some of their protoypes were  good

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View PostSturmtiger_304, on 23 August 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

No amphibius tanks, sorry. :<

Ah well, they can be used without swimming, either drop the Armour of, (which they can) give em natural grousers? or similar

Habad #7 Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:38 PM

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Japan built plenty of prototypes, some of them was very interesting with adecvate protection and firepower for that period. In any case, they deserve to be in game more than majority of EU countries.

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Suddenly I don't fear the Type 59 anymore :P

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omg to much types :Smile-hiding:  .. good job any way +1 from me

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sweet compilation, thanks for the effort :Smile_honoring:

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View PostgrayfoxCode, on 23 August 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

While most of the veciles never saw active service they have more of a right to be in the game than most of the French tanks as they were at least prototyped while the war was still going.

Now you assume that this game is purely about WW II tanks, which hasn't been the case anymore for quite a while now. It's more correct to say that WoT mainly features tanks from the period 1925 - 1965. That being said, I must say that the OP must have put a lot of work in his Japanese tech tree. It will be interesting to see if there's going to be some overlap with the future official WoT Japanese tech tree.

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Thank you for the interesting informations! +1 from me :Smile_great:

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Good read +1

Tamcia #14 Posted 23 August 2012 - 09:28 PM

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They should get their tree in Warships, not tanks - they didn't have anything good.

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140 ton monster :Smile_glasses:

BattleMetalChris #16 Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:54 PM

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I like the idea of amphibious tanks, now we have the physics.

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very interesting post, +1

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Very interesting read. Would not mind playing Japanese tanks in WoT at some point. British tanks first though please :)

One thing I noticed, Seems Mitsubishi provided most of the tank engines, How good were they?

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View PostLaird_Vanguard, on 24 August 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

Very interesting read. Would not mind playing Japanese tanks in WoT at some point. British tanks first though please :)

One thing I noticed, Seems Mitsubishi provided most of the tank engines, How good were they?
Japan was one of the few countries that used diesel engines for their tanks, so they were very reliable. They won some victories due to shock effect of turning up with armor despite the rough terrain.

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Nice post very interesting