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SIRJ4MES #1 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:00 AM

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I have Luchs now. Fun tank, but I consider use free xp past Leopard and get VK2801 with 105 mm derp gun. Will cost 70.000 free xp.

Is it worth it?

I have owned all the french lights. Still have 13 90 and Bat Chat in my garage.
How is VK2801 compared to the french tanks?

Also have researched and owned all tanks in the line from BT-7 to t-54.
But not t-50 and t-50-2 yet.  

The specs on VK2801 look great. High speed and derp gun :)

I have the M18 Hellcat. Also great speed and good gun. Is it almost the same gameplay with VK2801?

stagediver #2 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:13 AM

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View Postbobleplast, on 27 August 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

Is it worth it?

short answer: nope :Smile_blinky:

TankAce505 #3 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:19 AM

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i also used some free exp to get the vk2801, and i have to agree its not worth it.
i just doesnt do really mutch in those tier 10 battles. some arty kills and maybe a kill steal. its also a great moneysink.

Erwin0859 #4 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:23 AM

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VK 2801 don't turn very fast on the move, you take 10sec to be at 72km/h on plain....
VK 2801 is more a passive scout, but the derp gun with AP is really awesome, any arty is dead in 1 to 3 well-placed shots.

TankAce505 #5 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:26 AM

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View PostErwin0859, on 27 August 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

VK 2801 don't turn very fast on the move, you take 10sec to be at 72km/h on plain....
VK 2801 is more a passive scout, but the derp gun with AP is really awesome, any arty is dead in 1 to 3 well-placed shots.

beter use HE on arty, its more effective

skrki #6 Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:38 AM

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You probably should try Leo first, the movement of the VK is similair to it so you know whether u like it.
VK is bigger, got no great acceleration and has wide turning arc. It can got into position fast, harass higher tiers with the 105mm.
View range is nice/OK. Can work as antiscout and engage some lights (AMX), ram`em.

Movement of the T50, T50-2 is completely different breed.

Got only AMX13-75, but think its a bit more nimble than VK. ELC agility/speed is near to T50.

Just a sidenote; both Leo and VK got much worse turning cyrcle than Luchs - which is quite exceptional here.

SIRJ4MES #7 Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:53 AM

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The gun on Leo is too bad. 67 pen and 70 damage. I will skip this tank.
In my book the gun is very important. It makes the tank.

Look forward to try the 105 mm gun with HE shells.

I played a few matches with SU-152 and KV with derp gun. Its great fun to do damage on all tanks.

bosqit #8 Posted 27 August 2012 - 12:54 PM

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I <3 Luchs - Love from first sight
I hate Leo - We never suit each other.
I <3 VK - Mature love, after very long engagment :P

In fact I use Luchs everyday as a warm up before I play VK :) - First love always stays with you.

Edited by bosqit, 27 August 2012 - 12:56 PM.


Lancasthor #9 Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:04 PM

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You'll need those 100+ games with Leo to learn how to survive with VK28 Cougar.  I'd almost say that enjoying Luchs makes you more like a Chaffee tanker instead.

Tazilon #10 Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:44 PM

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It is more than worth it.  The Cougar is an exceptional tank.  If played correctly it can contribute to any battle and make money doing it.

luftwaffe_be #11 Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:43 AM

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german scouts are no damage dealers. The gun is there only to kill arty or some hopeless TD. The leo and the VK2801 are no exception.

Compared to the French lights you might be disappointed . turn arc is bad, so is the damage output. it's only good for two job :scouting and hunting arty. And if you know how to play it, it can be quite good.

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View Postluftwaffe_be, on 28 August 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

german scouts are no damage dealers. The gun is there only to kill arty or some hopeless TD. The leo and the VK2801 are no exception.

Compared to the French lights you might be disappointed . turn arc is bad, so is the damage output. it's only good for two job :scouting and hunting arty. And if you know how to play it, it can be quite good.

Weird because I have 14,104 kills in my Cougar.  7,844 (55.6%) of those are not Arty or TDs.   Luftwaffe_be, I would suggest you are severely underestimating the ability of your 2801.  Then again, you have something like 250 battles in it.  I only have 13,000 or so...what do I know?

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View Postbobleplast, on 27 August 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:



The specs on VK2801 look great. High speed and derp gun :)


High speed, poor turning, bad acceleration, inaccurate gun which requires you to get up close for effect.  It's a good tank in the right hands but it's not an easy one to get the best out of.

If you use free exp then there is a fair chance you will regret it.  T-50-2 is much easier to play.

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View PostHomer_J, on 28 August 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

High speed, poor turning, bad acceleration, inaccurate gun which requires you to get up close for effect.  It's a good tank in the right hands but it's not an easy one to get the best out of.

If you use free exp then there is a fair chance you will regret it.  T-50-2 is much easier to play.

So many misconceptions about this tank.  While it is true it takes a modicum of skill to play it, the biggest obstacle to doing well with it is listening to everyone tell you what it can't do - and believing them.  It only has poor turning when compared to 2 or 3 other tanks in the game.  What it lacks in acceleration it makes up for in firepower.  It does NOT have to be close range to do damage.  While not the most accurate, it is quite a capable Sniper, a skill enhanced by its excellent View Range and ability to hide behind bushes.

It is by far the most versatile Tier V Scout in the game.

Lord_Lemming #15 Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:22 AM

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The VK28 is worth it. The T-50-2 is a more agile active spotter but the VK28 does that job good enough AND is a beast at intercepting enemy scouts (anti scouting/protecting your arty) and arty raiding.  


You can make the VK28 much more agile - almost as good as the T-50-2, by using the petrol consumable, mounting improved ventilation, and train the motorclutching-, offrode driving-, and BIA skills. i hardly use the T-50-2 anymore. I feel I do more overall good in the VK.


Edited by Lord_Lemming, 28 August 2012 - 08:27 AM.


Quickyprd #16 Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:12 PM

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Totally no. Leopard is not a bad tank. Cant fight, but fast, and with camo a good scout. 105mm gun research on Hetzer or PZ tanks. Taht 50k exp is not bad for VK2801 on Leopard. But dont forgot for scouting. Never use it as a fighter :-) VK2801 is a different song :-) 70k exp is usefull somewhere else...tracks on tanks, new turret for better gun (if you have gun to this turret), better  engine, if you have only basic and you are going only 4km/h to hill etc. Never tanks!

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View PostTazilon, on 28 August 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

Weird because I have 14,104 kills in my Cougar.  7,844 (55.6%) of those are not Arty or TDs.   Luftwaffe_be, I would suggest you are severely underestimating the ability of your 2801.  Then again, you have something like 250 battles in it.  I only have 13,000 or so...what do I know?

I have only 250battles and I must agree with Tazilon. VK2801 is awesome! if you can handle it :-) Nothing  better than oneshot enemy scout with HE, one shot arty, 450dmg too T28 Proto with HE from back. Crippled enemy HT for 100-250dmg from sides. You must be fast and agile. Never fight face to face. Be poor bastard fighting from behind, flanking, scouting, detracking heavies etc.

SIRJ4MES #18 Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:11 AM

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I ended up spending my free xp and bought the VK2801. I have only upgraded only tracks, turret and 105 mm gun.

80% winrate!    ... after 5 battles :)

I really like this tank so far.   This is a fast, heavy hitting light tank/ arty hunter, with some armour.
Look forward to get engine upgrades too.

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View Postbobleplast, on 27 August 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

The gun on Leo is too bad. 67 pen and 70 damage. I will skip this tank.
In my book the gun is very important. It makes the tank.

You went wrong way than. You should choose Chaffee.

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View PostSekeletu, on 29 August 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

You went wrong way than. You should choose Chaffee.

Chaffee is to slow :)




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