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A_Headless_Chicken #1 Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

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SPANISH MERCENARY TANKS FOR WOT


Afternoon gentlemen, today’s lesson will be on the Tanks and AFV's used by Spain, and for the inclusion into WOT. The Spanish have a nice little collection, but being a neutral state and not directly involved in the war I considered them to be a mercenary collector’s pack.

With some very nice low tiers vehicles and a few historical examples, hopefully this will give a brief insight into this factions units, being a merc unit they don’t fit into a tree, and come fully upgraded, just stick them in your garage and play away.


One of the things that I thought would make a good selling point for merc units like this is, as they dont gain massive amounts of exp being very low tiers, they would have a bonus to crew training, and as many facist and communist forces fought in Spains civil was it kinda fits? and makes them a usefull collection.


so here they are, there are four tiers, and five vehicles, from T1 to T4, which makes a reasonable unit pack, easy to desgin, test an make, and seperate from the large future european faction

TIER 1

TRUBIA

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Though proposed for a full production, only 6 prototypes were produced. 3 of the prototypes took part in the Spanish Civil War in the Regiment of Infantry Milán. The 'Trubia' was based on the Renault FT-17 series of light tanks. It's superstructure was obviously different, but its suspension was basically the same. The tank was designed by army officer Captain Ruiz de Toledo, and built by Trubia in 1926 (hence the name). Successive improvements were made to the basic design until around 1931. Further developments of the 'Trubia' design resulted in the medium tank 'Landesa'. This tank was based on the commercial Landesa tractor (hence its name). Possibly 26 were built. The Trubia A4 was an improved design by Captain Ruiz de Toledo.


A Nifty little tier 1 starter tank, aimed at those who like playing the low tier, faced paced games, its armour is 15mm which is passable for T1, however it has a better engine and tracks than the FT17 and can reach 20Mph, its 40mm gun while not amazingly accurate packs the heaviest T1 punch


TIER 2

CCI TIPO LIGHT TANK

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In tests conducted during the second half of 1938, the prototype of the C.C.I Tipo 1937 developed the speed of 36 km/h and showed good performance, it is quite comparable with the Italian prototype. It was also pointed out that the wedge was convenient for direct support to the infantry and fight against enemy tanks. Received an order to build 30 (according to other data-20 or 35) machines, but in reality it was only a prototype. The reason of the serial built 1937 was his C.C.I Tipo excessively weak, which is not saved from armour-piercing bullets caliber hits 7.92 mm and above.

A fairly speedy tier 2, comparable to the panzer 2, its fast firing 20mm  cannon can be effective in the right hands, armour is too low to survive for long against higher tier vehicles.

TIER 3

VERDEJA 1

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Verdeja 1The appearance of the resulting Verdeja 1 prototype was close to that originally envisioned in Captain Verdeja's first designs. The vehicle's hull was elongated and the rear plate sloped, while the fuel capacity—and thus combat range—was increased, as was the ammunition capacity and the thickness of the armor. The vehicle was fabricated in Bilbao, the only city in Spain with a heavy vehicle assembly line. Due to the end of the Spanish Civil War and a shortage of funds, construction was postponed until May 1940. The prototype was completed three months later and delivered to the proving grounds in Carabanchel, Madrid. A major external difference between the previous model and this prototype was the new, low-profile turret which allowed the 45 millimetre gun to depress and elevate from 8° to 70°

A Fantastic little T2/3 tank, with 25mm armour of superbly sloped armourer, a powefull 45mm gun and a top speed equal too or better than its rivals, the Verjeja 1 is an exceptional tank

TIER 4

Verdeja 2

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As the Verdeja 1 program dissolved, Captain Verdeja began to design a successor taking into consideration lessons learned during the opening campaigns of the Second World War. The new design featured a reorganized engine bay at the rear of the chassis, which meant moving the drive sprocket to the rear as well. The movement of the engine's location allowed for better cooling of the vehicle's motor and the fighting compartment, as well as allowing the turret to be moved forward. The vehicle's armor was also increased substantially by between five and ten millimetres. This new tank was not approved for production or further development due to continued postponement of the production of the Verdeja 1 for reasons which included offers by the German government to supply the Panzer IV's engine for the Verdeja. Although production of the new vehicle finally began in 1942, it was not until August 1944 that the Verdeja 2 prototype was delivered

A Superb Tier 3/4 Light tank, with less slope, but still lacking the sharp angles of german tanks, its 45mm cannon can fire quite rapily, and its 40 mm of armour can be upgraded. there were several protoypes out there weilding 75mm howitzers, for great punch at tiers 3/4, slightly faster than its parent.

TIER 4

Verdeja 75 ARTY

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Major changes to the original Verdeja 1 included removing the turret and replacing it with a gun shield with 10 millimetre thick steel armor. This meant that much of the chassis' roof and rear wall was eliminated. The howitzer was designed as a monoblock steel tube, using a double-baffle muzzle brake, with twelve twists completing a full turn every forty calibers. As mounted, the howitzer could fire between 0.5° and 25°, and move 4.5° either left or right. The crew could stow eight pieces of ammunition in a ready-round stowage area near the walls of the gun shield on each side of the breech, allowing easy access to projectiles. Otherwise, the vehicle could store another 24 rounds in an auxiliary carriage. The carriage was based on the axles and wheels of a PaK 36 anti-tank gun. A unique feature of this prototype was a mechanical brake built into the idler-wheel to the rear of the chassis, guaranteeing the vehicle's stability when firing and avoiding damage to the transmission.


A Tier 4 Arty piece, the Vej, has a low callibre shell for an arty piece, it does however have the fastest rate of fire for its tier, raining down a barrage of shells to wear the enemy down



AND FINALY...


TIER IX Med, used in the post war by spanish army, would make a seperate high tier premium, not inclusive with the above pack, or just save it for US? your thoughts

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frommy #2 Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

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nice tanks but i think wot make not spanish tanks

RoyalColor #3 Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

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M41 Walker Bulldog is said to be tier VI american light that will follow Chaffee

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View Postedfrancis001, on 27 August 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

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ELC AMX and LOLtractor made kids. :Smile_veryhappy:

BTW Spain will be in the mixed European tree, probably.

CarroStimpak #5 Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:48 PM

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Is that a tier 3 lollolloltraktor?

BattleMetalChris #6 Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

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View PostCarroStimpak, on 27 August 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

Is that a tier 3 lollolloltraktor?

If it plays anything like the ELC AMX it's official name is now 'trolololtractor'

Woras #7 Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:07 PM

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USA, France, German copy-paste.

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View PostWoras, on 27 August 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

USA, France, German copy-paste.

Ehh ??

Uterujem_Dobro #9 Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

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View PostWoras, on 27 August 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

USA, France, German copy-paste.

i don't see any USA influence here. France and German a little, yes.

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View Postfrommy, on 27 August 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

nice tanks but i think wot make not spanish tanks

There will be a combined EU tree, or something like that... Maybe there's going to be one or two spanish tanks as well :)

Turtle240 #11 Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:53 PM

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Dont,please dont

EmilianS #12 Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

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Lepiej jak by wprowadzili mieszane drzewko np. POLSKA,WĘGRY,HISZPANIA,WŁOCHY,i jeszcze Parę państw które produkowały tylko Parę typów czołgów a i jeszcze BUŁBARIA i RUMUNIA.

XxXSpottedYouXxX #13 Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:06 PM

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View Postfrommy, on 27 August 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

nice tanks but i think wot make not spanish tanks

Theirs a possibility they could come although slim at best.

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View PostEmilianS, on 27 August 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

Lepiej jak by wprowadzili mieszane drzewko np. POLSKA,WĘGRY,HISZPANIA,WŁOCHY,i jeszcze Parę państw które produkowały tylko Parę typów czołgów a i jeszcze BUŁBARIA i RUMUNIA.
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Przydały by cię też czołgi JAPOŃSKIE takie jak Typ 2595 HA-GO, Typ 2597 CHI-HA, Typ2 KA-MI i dlaczego w drzewku ZSRR nie ma  takich czołgów jak T-40, T-60, T-70,pływający T-37A i T-38, wielowieżowy T-35(największa porażka Rosjan)

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would like to see spanish tanks, but didnt they used many german tanks?

nationalst span used italian tanks too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L3/33

btw. why the guy "EmilianS" talking not english?

well i translatet it via google... our polish friend wirt this:

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It is better to introduce the mixed tree such POLAND, HUNGARY, SPAIN, ITALY, and yet few countries have produced only few types of tanks and even more BUŁBARIA and ROMANIA.

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To you a handy JAPANESE tanks such as type HA-GO 2595, Type 2597 CHI-HA, Type 2 Ka-MI and why the Soviet Union in the tree does not have such tanks like T-40, T-60, T-70, T-37A flying and T-38, T-35 wielowieżowy (biggest defeat Russians)

dont know why he writ such things into the topic about spanish tanks...

Edited by falcoalex, 27 August 2012 - 09:28 PM.


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View PostEmilianS, on 27 August 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

Lepiej jak by wprowadzili mieszane drzewko np. POLSKA,WĘGRY,HISZPANIA,WŁOCHY,i jeszcze Parę państw które produkowały tylko Parę typów czołgów a i jeszcze BUŁBARIA i RUMUNIA.

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It is better to introduce the mixed tree such POLAND, HUNGARY, SPAIN, ITALY, and yet few countries have produced only few types of tanks and even more Bulgaria and Romania.

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funny guy, last tank its M41 Walker Bulldog, US light tank build to replace m24 chaffe...

http://en.wikipedia...._Walker_Bulldog

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View PostDerRizerPin, on 27 August 2012 - 09:27 PM, said:

Quick Translation.

It is better to introduce the mixed tree such POLAND, HUNGARY, SPAIN, ITALY, and yet few countries have produced only few types of tanks and even more Bulgaria and Romania.

Yep, but ive covered some of them, and have other pots as well, i want to just look at spanish tanks, and as there is not enough for a whole faction, and the Europe tree looks to  have enough already, hence the mercenary premium idea.

beermonster1972 #20 Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:59 PM

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lol can you imagine spainish arti it i`ll be donkey flinging catapults or they have to have church towers so they could push one on you as you drive below

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