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ilmavarvas #921 Posted 17 September 2014 - 12:27 PM

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View Postno_name_cro, on 16 September 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

 

I have D10T so I guess I can go for LB-1 ASAP? I'm asking because I don't know how is stock mobility?

 

Go for LB-1 very ASAP, you can upgrade the mobility later, it ain't so bad in stock, the gun really makes the difference in that tank.

tajj7 #922 Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:08 PM

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Yeh agree on the gun, the D10T is a massive improvement on the stock gun but when you are trying to fight tanks by dodging shots, getting snapshots in, getting in two shots whilst they reload it's very unreliable due to that aim time. 

 

Don't have the 50 100 but I would reckon it's more of a threat in tier 10s than the T-44, that autoloader burst plus decent pen plus decent agility speed.

 

The T-44 with 175 pen plus 250 alpha is little more than an annoyance to most tier 10s. 



ilmavarvas #923 Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:52 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 17 September 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Yeh agree on the gun, the D10T is a massive improvement on the stock gun but when you are trying to fight tanks by dodging shots, getting snapshots in, getting in two shots whilst they reload it's very unreliable due to that aim time.

 

Don't have the 50 100 but I would reckon it's more of a threat in tier 10s than the T-44, that autoloader burst plus decent pen plus decent agility speed.

 

The T-44 with 175 pen plus 250 alpha is little more than an annoyance to most tier 10s.

 

That's so true, sadly, tier 9/10 tanks, ht's & most meds have that high HP pool that they really don't care much of your 250 alpha. They can afford to take the risk to be shotted, and of course there's always the chance of you not penning them.

 

So you have to be very careful in tier 9/10 battles, and of course somehow you'll see them a lot...

I've played 285 matches with T-44, aced it and playing better with it all the time, but still my WR in T-44 is sinking like a big rock throwed into sea, dunno how to stop it, since there are so few tier 8 matches that you have the possibility to even try to carry team.



distrofijus #924 Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:19 AM

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My journey with T-44 is close to end (circa 30k xp left). And I kinda like it. While nothing stands out, the overall package is decent. Can't claim huge dmg output (only circa 1.1k average), but win rate now close to 61%. I had it at top configuration for awhile, but it was down in priority list. I took it out after 3 or so months for some dailies and... It rocked, I enjoyed the bugger - so resumed my play on it.

 

It has mobility so I relocate quite a lot. Can't say it needs specific gameplay. Just run around and shoot up stuff works for me. Stock is pain, definately one of the worst. And weirdly enough, I've had about 75% of MoE after playing somewhat with STA/Centurion (average damage is like 200-300 higher than t-44), however on T-44 I'm just very close to 65% - so people do a lot better than me in this tank.

 

I'm yet to play pershing/t-34-2, elited the rest of the bunch. It's my YOLOiest tank of the bunch and that's why I liked it. The rest of tier 8 MTs where I've done better (indian/sta/centurion) - great view range, hulldown/ridge poking - pretty boring safe gameplay.



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The tank is fine, it's not bad at anything and it's not really great at anything but you get so many tier 10 games and that is what ruins it. Most of the other tier 8 mediums feel the same, at least most of the heavies can still pack a punch with fairly decent penetration and alpha, but this gun is only really good for sides and with the maps the way they are, the amount of high alpha TDs and autoloaders taking those risks to try and get into flanking positions is usually not worth it because there will be a Waffle or the like hiding at the back ready to two shot you.

 

The gap between 8 and 10 is too big, none of my tier 8s I have really wanted to keep for this reason. because you spend a good 40% of matches being the worst tank in the game making up the numbers with 3-4 other cannon fodder whilst Waffles, Bat Chats, T-57 heavies just eat you for breakfast.


As soon as I'm done with the grind this tank like my other tier 8s is gone. 



ilmavarvas #926 Posted 18 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 18 September 2014 - 09:56 AM, said:

The tank is fine, it's not bad at anything and it's not really great at anything but you get so many tier 10 games and that is what ruins it. Most of the other tier 8 mediums feel the same, at least most of the heavies can still pack a punch with fairly decent penetration and alpha, but this gun is only really good for sides and with the maps the way they are, the amount of high alpha TDs and autoloaders taking those risks to try and get into flanking positions is usually not worth it because there will be a Waffle or the like hiding at the back ready to two shot you.

 

The gap between 8 and 10 is too big, none of my tier 8s I have really wanted to keep for this reason. because you spend a good 40% of matches being the worst tank in the game making up the numbers with 3-4 other cannon fodder whilst Waffles, Bat Chats, T-57 heavies just eat you for breakfast.


As soon as I'm done with the grind this tank like my other tier 8s is gone.

 

I finished it yesterday, unlocked T-54 but can't afford to buy it yet, somehow the T-44 have been eating some credits to run haha ;) And of course the other reason is that I just bought IS-3, but atleast it makes decent credits when played right and it really punishes tier 8 med when you get a shot at it :)

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Yeh IS3 > T44.

 

What annoys me the most is the Type 59 is a better tier 8 medium by far, makes more credits and has limited MM!

 

Horrible grind this, the tank is ok, but an ok tier 8 in mostly tier 10 games is painful. 

 

It just doesn't get a tier 8 game, so far I reckon it;s about 1 in 7/8 games for a tier 8. 


Edited by tajj7, 19 September 2014 - 11:55 PM.


distrofijus #928 Posted 22 September 2014 - 06:14 AM

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.... And sold. Final stats:

Kill/Death Ratio 1.47
Damage Caused/Received 1.09
Average Number of Vehicles Destroyed per Battle 1.02
Average Damage Caused per Battle 1,236
Nothing too fancy, average damage at lower side, but I'm not that great with dealing dmg on tier 8 tanks. I'd say I've used handfull of apcr shots since I've got lb-1. Shot some, but very rarely. Pretty much solo and in the end got close 62% W/R. I've had some decent teams, had some carries while being top tier. Don't recall being helpless while being bottom tier as well.


tajj7 #929 Posted 22 September 2014 - 08:23 AM

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Used the free XP I had allocated to the Conqueror on skipping the rest of this grind, couldn't stand it, I know you shouldn't use free XP to skip tanks but sometimes I make exceptions and to be honest the T-44 along with the Churchill VII are the exceptions.

 

Would much prefer to use a stock T-54 (though I am struggling a bit) and basically a Caernarvon on tier 9 with a faster ROF (which is basically what a Conqueror with the 20 pdr + centurion turret is) then another 150 odd games of being useless in tier 10s with the T-44.

 

The tank is fine, the MM it gets is not. When top tier it's a fun little medium, but then the amount of times you get to be top tier added in to not getting a complete donkey team is like one game in 10 if not worse.

 

Personally from the 3 tier 8 mediums I have now used, Panther 2, Centurion 1 and T-44, they all seem under par to me mainly because they see many tier 10 games. 



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Duh, because the T-54 stock grind is so much more fun than playing the elited T-44. Oh wait, I could have told you that isn't the case. Now suffer :trollface:

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View Postrikkelt, on 22 September 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:

Duh, because the T-54 stock grind is so much more fun than playing the elited T-44. Oh wait, I could have told you that isn't the case. Now suffer :trollface:

 

To me they feel about the same.

 

Also I have a bit of free Xp left even after unlocking the turret so I only need about 30k XP to get one of the guns.

 

So 30k XP to a T-54 with it's best gun or like 100k XP with the T44, and with the T-54 going to improve even more in my mind I can endure the grind better because I know the tank will get better whereas the T-44 was a pain elited. 

 



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How's your winrate in T-54? T-44 is a support vehicle. T-54 - carry one. You'll have a lot more weight to carry in T-54.

It is a lot harder to influence while being bottom tier (one has to wait for enemies to thin out to find a niche to annoy enemies. Constantly checking/poking enemy). But it's not for you to carry the match, you are just supporting your heavies (protecting from flanking, doing some flanking on later game). You are not meant to carry and no one will start blaming you for loss.

A lot of people still expect T-54 to auto-carry team to the victory :)



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Only got it yesterday, wont really look at winrate, average damage etc until I get it fully unlocked.

 

I also had pretty awful teams for my first 10 or so games.



ustroj_destroj #934 Posted 24 September 2014 - 09:33 PM

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This tank is impressive nothing. No gun. No armor. No speed. No view range. No solid turret.

 

Just played the game at 9 tier. I have made 25 shoots, 19 hit and only 4 penetrations. One of these penetrations was HE base cap reset. So 3 penetrations from 18 hits.

 

Now I need to get 100k exp for t-54 and it will be long and painfull trip. Eating cactus.



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Most mobile tier 8 med has "no speed" apparently.

MetalManiac69 #936 Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:32 PM

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T-44 has become obsolete with the introduction of T-54 LT. T-54 is better at everything, mobility, camo, top speed, DPM, even armor...

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T-54 light has the same matchmaking as T-54. If you want to compare the T-44 to a light tank, compare it to the LTTB.

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LTTB is also better than T-44..

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View PostMetalManiac69, on 26 September 2014 - 12:32 PM, said:

T-44 has become obsolete with the introduction of T-54 LT. T-54 is better at everything, mobility, camo, top speed, DPM, even armor...

View PostMetalManiac69, on 26 September 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

LTTB is also better than T-44..

 

Yea

mr, theoretical pro opinion  but based on ?

do u have any of this tanks ? did u played any of them ?

t44 ? t54lt ? or lttb ?

 



Patrol_Duty #940 Posted 28 September 2014 - 01:10 PM

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LTTB is so much better than the T-44 it isn't even funny.




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