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Tenkaido #981 Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:48 PM

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View PostThunderLeopard, on 31 December 2014 - 04:56 PM, said:

T-44 is a great tank infact I would say it is a close call between the Pershing for the best T8 medium it feels more agile which makes it easier to carry games when your bottom tier.

 

finished the grind for the T-54 and got my 3rd MoE in the last few games 

 

Seriously, that was an epic image... My mind was totally blown. Nevertheless, congratulations on the 3rd MoE.



fester0911 #982 Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:13 PM

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The tank is a true med with good speed, adequate gun and not much armour tho the front plate is well sloped it can't be relied on. As a result its fun 2 play and at times can carry but mistakes are punished heavily!

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View Postfester0911, on 04 January 2015 - 04:13 PM, said:

The tank is a true med with good speed, adequate gun and not much armour tho the front plate is well sloped it can't be relied on. As a result its fun 2 play and at times can carry but mistakes are punished heavily!

 

I'm not saying it's bad, but with the introduction of new medium and new light tanks, the "old" medium really need to be rebalanced...

Jernjomfrua #984 Posted 13 January 2015 - 03:54 AM

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View PostBattledragon, on 20 November 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

That's T44 in a nutshell, at least it was for me, before I sold it as soon as I unlocked T54.  Nice tank, shame about the useless gun penetration.  Oh and it exploded, A LOT.  only tank I ever felt the need to install  wet ammo rack over improved vents (I felt I'd rather drop vents than gun rammer or stabilizer to make room for it).  Not sure if it's still basically a mobile ammo rack, but it was back when I drove it.

 

Hide your right side, no more ammorack. Fight with your left side to the enemy.

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View PostBattledragon, on 20 November 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

That's T44 in a nutshell, at least it was for me, before I sold it as soon as I unlocked T54.  Nice tank, shame about the useless gun penetration.  Oh and it exploded, A LOT.  only tank I ever felt the need to install  wet ammo rack over improved vents (I felt I'd rather drop vents than gun rammer or stabilizer to make room for it).  Not sure if it's still basically a mobile ammo rack, but it was back when I drove it.

 

I can't remember being ammo-racked in T-44 for a long time (RNG factor maybe), the same goes for its predecessor T-43. But this is something I cannot say about their Chinese brothers: T-34-1 & T-34-2, those are all-round ammo-racks on wheels :angry:

 



Eeppisyys #986 Posted 06 February 2015 - 01:44 PM

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T-43 felt way better than the t-44. I think tank is completely meh. How are you supposed to play this tank anyway? Scout in high tiers and once in every 25 battles you get to be top tier and have a good game... 

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View PostEeppisyys, on 06 February 2015 - 01:44 PM, said:

T-43 felt way better than the t-44. I think tank is completely meh. How are you supposed to play this tank anyway? Scout in high tiers and once in every 25 battles you get to be top tier and have a good game... 

 

I kinda agree, but not in the part that T-44 is a meh tank. Yes, it's very map & matchmaking dependent, and can perform well on specific maps, even being low tier. Yesterday I had 2 good games (even considering the fact that I was killed in the process).

One battle was a tier 10 match on Prokhorovka and I worked mostly on the ridges in the middle of the map, being constantly on the move, spotting for my team, have killed glass canno German TD, and was killed eventually... by arty :angry:

The second battle was on similar map: Fisherman's Bay and I did played the same way, hunting for enemy meds & lights in the middle of the map, supporting heavies & trying to spot. I got kill too, but we won thanks to good ally arty support & decent teamplay at the end of the battle.

 

T-44 is a scout/mobile flanker depending on map type, try to be in motion as much as it's possible, spot on open maps and flank on closed ones, use your mobility to react to the situation, don't engage the enemy (you are not SuperPershing). Right now I'm training the repair skill on all crew members, next will be cammo skill, also using vert. stabilizer, rammer or GLD (can't remember now) & vents, that's a must for all meds starting from tier 6 to be effective in battles.

 



Eeppisyys #988 Posted 07 February 2015 - 04:24 AM

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I use optics, vents and vert, but it feels so god damn inaccurate on the move.

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I started to grind for the T-44,because it had a 122mm gun. At that time there wasn't any Chinese or Japanese tanks, so the only t8 medium with a 122mm was the T-44. When the Chinese and the Japanese tanks arrived to WoT, I looked through the medium tanks and the T-34-2 MT has a 122mm too. I compared the guns and I quickly realized that the firerate on the T-44's gun is really bad compared to the T-34-2's and after a lot of comparing, I found out that the firerate is significantly less than the T7 IS HT and that is a tier 7! The T-44 is a tier 8 and it might be a medium, but the fact that it has ~64% less DPM (3.13/4.88) is just so frustrating. I understand that mediums get less overpowered guns, but in my opinion the T-44 should a least have the same firerate as the IS, because it's t8.:/

 

Please buff the firerate WG.



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View Postmagnus1voj, on 08 February 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

I started to grind for the T-44,because it had a 122mm gun. At that time there wasn't any Chinese or Japanese tanks, so the only t8 medium with a 122mm was the T-44. When the Chinese and the Japanese tanks arrived to WoT, I looked through the medium tanks and the T-34-2 MT has a 122mm too. I compared the guns and I quickly realized that the firerate on the T-44's gun is really bad compared to the T-34-2's and after a lot of comparing, I found out that the firerate is significantly less than the T7 IS HT and that is a tier 7! The T-44 is a tier 8 and it might be a medium, but the fact that it has ~64% less DPM (3.13/4.88) is just so frustrating. I understand that mediums get less overpowered guns, but in my opinion the T-44 should a least have the same firerate as the IS, because it's t8.:/

 

Please buff the firerate WG.

 

Or you could use the 100mm gun which is way better anyway.

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View Postmagnus1voj, on 08 February 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

I started to grind for the T-44,because it had a 122mm gun. At that time there wasn't any Chinese or Japanese tanks, so the only t8 medium with a 122mm was the T-44. When the Chinese and the Japanese tanks arrived to WoT, I looked through the medium tanks and the T-34-2 MT has a 122mm too. I compared the guns and I quickly realized that the firerate on the T-44's gun is really bad compared to the T-34-2's and after a lot of comparing, I found out that the firerate is significantly less than the T7 IS HT and that is a tier 7! The T-44 is a tier 8 and it might be a medium, but the fact that it has ~64% less DPM (3.13/4.88) is just so frustrating. I understand that mediums get less overpowered guns, but in my opinion the T-44 should a least have the same firerate as the IS, because it's t8.:/

 

Please buff the firerate WG.

 

As above nobody uses the 122, I haven't even researched it, you will do terribly with the 122.

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View Postbrisha, on 09 February 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

As above nobody uses the 122, I haven't even researched it, you will do terribly with the 122.

 

I still occassionally use 122mm for fun factor. T-44 has much better gun elevation than T-34-2 even though I do agree slow rof it just ridiculous, it could be a little better and still not that op. For most people 100mm works best and dpm/accuracy has its points. It doesn't make 122mm totally out of question though. Averagely, in my experience, you can do more damage with 122mm despite low rof but damage is not everything. Most people should go on with 100mm though, if you prefer ez mode.

 



Chester_Chuckles #993 Posted 11 February 2015 - 03:44 PM

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i have my Ace tanker on the T-44 using the 122mm

it just takes a bit of getting used to



haclya #994 Posted 12 February 2015 - 09:05 PM

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Why wargaming why did buff Ltw but ignores t44 bad sport wargaming why ahoud lt beat a med in all stats makes me sad.

T44  got worst gun mhe dpm low pen ok speed same as type 59. Got bad amor to. ammo rack made of paper. only going for it is low profile and best track traverse.

Is sad that wargaming buffs ltw but ignores t44 totaly shame on you wargaming.

And if you clame t44 gets good mm you are wrong most of games i get in t44 is 10 and 9.


Edited by haclya, 12 February 2015 - 09:34 PM.


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60 matches, almost 70% wins and 1947 damage per match average. This tank is fine you just got to learn to use all the free shots enemy does give. One day I made mausrage at me hard. In that match I did 4,7k dmg in tier 10 match and got almost 1600 base XP. If you still want to give t44 a try, I can watch replays or platoon with you :) (And look at my stats.. 1350 wn8 and in t44 I manage to average over 4k wn8)

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Had 52% WR and almost two marks of excelence, then Satan himself decided to give me teams full of mentally ill people and tier X tanks to fight. I'm down and stucked at 48% atm. The fact that it lacks the pen and you have to flank means you're somehow at the mercy of your team, you can't flank non-distracted tanks and expect not to get screwed over. By the way, ammo rack is still paper, for those who say it's not. I had to put some equipment to avoid struggling with a 14s reload as I usually got ammo racked at least once per game. Hell, each hit would hit my ammo rack or loader, it's frustrating. The tank itself is fine, I like it that it's mobile, I got used to the gun depression, but again, you can't really engage targets frontally so I always end up circling and/or flanking their [edited]. I'd love it so much if it wouldn't be so team dependant.

 

 

You might say I have a low survival rate, might be true, but I sometimes use my tank literally as a meat shield for my "more important" teammates when the situation requires in order to give them a chance to win the battle. That, or I do some hero run to distract the enemy tanks to assure a victory. Whatever the case may be, I don't think that's my problem, it's the matchmaking that's horrible most of the times. Thanks Satan.



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And the fucked it up.. now rhm, if he hits you, instant ammo blown up. fukin crap

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Stock T-44 is the worst grind I have EVER experienced.
And mind you, I experienced the stock VK3001P from beta. The slow huge whale of a tank with a 75mm L78 on tier6 that regularily met tier9 IS4s.

There are no words strong enough. 50k experience needed to unlock a gun (turret+suspension+gun) that is extremely subpar but at least makes the tank playable. 20k more to have a gun that's only good on a very mobile tank. And 40k more to have engines to actually make the tank anywhere close to playable.

So in summary, that's 50k exp to make it good if it were a tier7 tank
70k to turn it into what could be a tier8 premium medium with limited MM
110k xp to turn it into a very average tier8 medium tank.

And I'm supposed to grind 50k xp with 144mm penetration? When 4/5 of my matches are against tierX, and in which most mobile heavies outrun me in a straight line, all while having worse aimtime than every other tank tier8 and up, with exception of arty and T49 ?
All that to bump up to 175mm pen on a gun that's only ever good on tier6 and 7 ? 

Yeah...
Thanks for the money trap WG.

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Dont whine about low pen, rld some skill ammo. Once i did almost 6k dmg in tier 10 match, aced and got reported for hax...by enemy maus, stb1,IS-7 and jp2. Good player will actually use alots of free shots that enemy gives. Just learn to think where enemy is willing to show you side or back soon, take shot and dont get shot. In T44 it doesnt matter if you cant take many shots in a row to same target. Just take shots that dont put you in great danger and you will have funny end of the match. Its pretty ideal to get 6 free shots in beginning and middle of match with taking no to little damage. In end you can then roll in with your shiny 100% T44 having already dealt 1500 dmg and do some surprise buttsex.

​about learning to take free shots.. If enemy knows that every time he does lurk somewhere, he takes shot in, he might actually end up camping behind corner and being useless. If you are dealing damage on other side of map and making enemy useless by fearfactor.. You will mostly win :)



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This tank is why we have tier 8 SH




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