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Demoned #21 Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

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in the UK we do have a 48hr cool down period on all electronic items (and i should think a mouse comes under this)
if a store says it needs to be unpacked just quote this by all means,
but u do need the box and the packaging in tact when returning said item. if the box is ripped or damage they can say no.

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View PostPadyEos, on 12 September 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

even online you can usually return them. At least the biggest online stores here also have at least 1 shop in each major city and you can return it in person easily.
If you live in the EU, then you can return everything you buy online without even giving a reason. The stores you buy from in person are not required to take a product back just because you do not like it, but same as for you, they usually do it over here and are even nice about it.

I bought a Logitech once, the ergonomics were great, but it broke down real fast, exchanged it for this Speedlink one here, rather cheap yet very reliable:

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gwichy #23 Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

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I use a Cyber Snipa Silencer (s**t name alright :Smile_veryhappy: ) which I find quite comfortable for my grip, but it may not suit everyone. I also play with the wrist straight so it might be good for you too.

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Trilandian #24 Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:55 PM

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View PostDemoned, on 12 September 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

in the UK we do have a 48hr cool down period on all electronic items (and i should think a mouse comes under this)
if a store says it needs to be unpacked just quote this by all means,
but u do need the box and the packaging in tact when returning said item. if the box is ripped or damage they can say no.

This is nice and all, but why do you assume UK law applies where I live? Around here, the general policy is that electronic items that were ordered online can be returned within 14 days, in the original packaging (not necessarily sealed). Brick and morar retailers that sell their products in the store can set their own return policy.

Heinzi #25 Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:16 PM

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Buy a Logitech G400 for 29.99, all problems solved.

Edited by Heinzi, 12 September 2012 - 11:18 PM.


Cpt_Kawa #26 Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:36 PM

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View PostNoin, on 12 September 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

MX518
Bought 5 of them, should last me at least 10 years.

After that I got a problem.

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That is the best gaming mouse ever. Bought it when BF2 got released and have it since then. From time to time I think that I need a new mouse (cheap ones, expensive ones etc...) and go buy one and after a week or so I go back to my really really really used looking MX 518. Simply the best!

Edited by Cpt_Kawa, 12 September 2012 - 11:37 PM.


BattleMetalChris #27 Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:44 PM

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View PostTrilandian, on 12 September 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

The result is that my ring finger ends up propped against the right-side lip of the mouse, instead of resting on the table.

I'm not entirely sure how you'd use a mouse with your ring finger resting on the table, unless you used it by spreadeagling your whole hand flat and kind of 'smearing' the mouse around.

Klotz #28 Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:57 PM

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View PostNoin, on 12 September 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

MX518
Bought 5 of them, should last me at least 10 years.

After that I got a problem.
Considering that it's the exact same shape as the 510, I'm hoping the next model will just continue the line. Maybe without the weird denty design, though. They could even do away with the rubber covering, since that disintegrates after heavy use anyway.

Trilandian #29 Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:03 AM

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View PostBattleMetalChris, on 12 September 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure how you'd use a mouse with your ring finger resting on the table, unless you used it by spreadeagling your whole hand flat and kind of 'smearing' the mouse around.

Nooo... I have the pinky and ring finger on the right, the thumb on the left, and the index finger and middle finger on the mouse.

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View PostTrilandian, on 12 September 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

This is nice and all, but why do you assume UK law applies where I live? Around here, the general policy is that electronic items that were ordered online can be returned within 14 days, in the original packaging (not necessarily sealed). Brick and morar retailers that sell their products in the store can set their own return policy.

Part of being in the "wonderful" EU, most of us have similar laws regarding distance selling.

Trilandian #31 Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:25 AM

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View PostDushan79, on 13 September 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Part of being in the "wonderful" EU, most of us have similar laws regarding distance selling.

I see, but we're not in the EU, so...

BattleMetalChris #32 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:07 AM

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View PostTrilandian, on 13 September 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Nooo... I have the pinky and ring finger on the right, the thumb on the left, and the index finger and middle finger on the mouse.

That's what I mean - surely everyone does that?

View PostKlotz, on 12 September 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

Maybe without the weird denty design, though.
It's not actually denty, that's just something wierd they do to the plastic to make it reflect like that. The surface there is smooth.

Edited by BattleMetalChris, 13 September 2012 - 01:09 AM.


Nechrom #33 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:25 AM

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View PostTrilandian, on 12 September 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

The result is that my ring finger ends up propped against the right-side lip of the mouse, instead of resting on the table.

Wait. I might have understood this completely wrong, but you're saying your ring-finger ISN'T on your right mouse button?

chaos7 #34 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:29 AM

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View PostNechrom, on 13 September 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Wait. I might have understood this completely wrong, but you're saying your ring-finger ISN'T on your right mouse button?

You have your Ring Finger on your RMB? That sure sounds uncomfortable...

BattleMetalChris #35 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:29 AM

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I suppose it depends if you've got used to needing quick access to the middle button.

I started gaming waay before mice had middle buttons (way before mice really) so I rest my first and second fingers on the two buttons, with (like Trilandian) my ring and pinkie fingers up against the side of the mouse. To move or press the wheel I take my first finger off the button and use that.

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ignore.

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View Postchaos7, on 13 September 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

You have your Ring Finger on your RMB? That sure sounds uncomfortable...

I think it's very comfortable. Would be a lot more uncomfortable and inconvenient to spread my index and middle finger between both buttons and squash my ring and little finger on the right side of the mouse.
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View PostBattleMetalChris, on 13 September 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

I suppose it depends if you've got used to needing quick access to the middle button.

I started gaming waay before mice had middle buttons (way before mice really) so I rest my first and second fingers on the two buttons, with (like Trilandian) my ring and pinkie fingers up against the side of the mouse. To move or press the wheel I take my first finger off the button and use that.

I did that for a long time also. But as gaming mice (and large mice in general) became more common I switched. I also had a few 3 button mice before mouse wheels came along where this grip was necessary.

Edited by Nechrom, 13 September 2012 - 01:54 AM.


BadNews420 #38 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:58 AM

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When you buy a mouse, keyboard or headset/speakers always go to a store and try it out and see if you like it.

And how come you can't return it if you bought it today? Next time don't buy from a store that don't let you try the new thing you bought.

Also remember that when you change mouse or keyboard it can take a few days/week to get used to the new one.

doktoj #39 Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:21 AM

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RAT serie looks interesting but the cordless version is just too much pricey for me.

CS2001 #40 Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:34 AM

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A thumb controlled Trackball is imho the most relaxing option for your hand. It takes some time to get used to it, but afterwards you don't want to switch back to a normal mouse.
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To bad that the only thumb controlled trackball which is still getting produced, is the cordless Logitech M570 :/




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