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Earl_Grey #61 Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:51 AM

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View PostNoin, on 12 September 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

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Bought 5 of them, should last me at least 10 years.

After that I got a problem.

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Awesome! I got my one 5 years ago (still using). Such a beautiful thing and very comfy for my hand.
Razer charge way too much for what you get, I would look for another brand with similar features.

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View Post2alertred, on 12 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Razer is shit company. I have their old mouse wich got broken in the less than a year. I managed to fix it somehow watching some youtube videos. (they make mouses bad on purpose so you replace them sooner)

Razer are a great company, your local resale must be the issue. I live in Bulgaria where there is only one company importing Steel Series and Razer gear and i got my Lycosa repaired for free for breaking one of the legs 4 months in (all my fault and i was ready to pay for repair) .
I ve been using the Lachesis for 3 years never had issues i got 2 sets of headphones - the Orca are amazing. The issues i had were presented to the import company at which they inquired with Razer and they sent a replacement ASAP.

Only major issues i had was when windows 7 beta came out and the Razer drivers were not working their support managed to fix it in like 10 min over chat and Team Viewer. Respect

Also the local resale does a lot of promotions for such gear on all sorts of computer related events and if you are at the right place at the right time price is not a problem :) 20% -50% off and occasional completely free stuff :D

View Posti486DX, on 12 September 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Buy A4Tech, cheap as fuck and very reliable.

That i agree with. Some are impossible to clean but you can just trow it away and get a new one still having the cash difference to a Razer to buy 5 more :D

Edited by SabatonPagan, 13 September 2012 - 11:17 AM.


Klotz #63 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:12 PM

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View PostBattleMetalChris, on 13 September 2012 - 01:07 AM, said:

It's not actually denty, that's just something wierd they do to the plastic to make it reflect like that. The surface there is smooth.
You sure? I always figured there was just some sort of clear covering over the dents. Anyway, when I first took it from the package I thought it was defective. ;)

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View Postdoktoj, on 13 September 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

Got a first edition of G9 (five years of service :Smile_Default: ) then switch for the cordeless G700. I change it cause the cord finally broke inside near the entrance of the mouse, too lazy to repair it x)

Why keep on Logi mouse : the micro gear system, it is just a fantastic feature for switch in free wheel mode when using navigator scrool.

The only con IMHO of the G700 is the battery life for gamers. If you play a lot, prepare a stack of battery (like Eneloop 2000mAh) as backup.

I have some heavy duty Duracell batteries each one lasts around a day for me and i have 4 of them they are 2000 mAh also thinking about getting my second pair would be able to play my games all the time for over a week if i got another 4 of them.

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View PostNixouf, on 13 September 2012 - 06:27 AM, said:

Who doesn't? Unless your mouse hasn't wheel, i don't know why you would do otherwise...

Err, me for one. I had no idea people held a mouse in such a fashion!

mondog #66 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:40 PM

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Gonna get a mouse, get a Logitech. I tend to steer well clear of razor products. Look flash but generally they're quite poorly build and I've never found either one of their mice or keyboards to be the least bit ergonomic. Head sets are OK though.

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View PostEarl_Grey, on 13 September 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Awesome! I got my one 5 years ago (still using). Such a beautiful thing and very comfy for my hand.
Razer charge way too much for what you get, I would look for another brand with similar features.

I got mine a similar time ago, its had some much use the metal plaque on the top has worn down and is flat! I might get another soon simply because I've worn it out. Still works like they day it came out the box though.

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I have a Cyborg RAT 7 mouse, and also a Cyborg V7 keyboard. They are really good, and the fact that you can customize the grips on rat mouse is just perfect in every aspect. The precision aiming button really helps when targeting linear moving targets while reloading, and trying to aim at weakspots while enemy is slowly retreating or advancing. The software that comes with them is also very user-friendly.

Cheers!

chaos7 #69 Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:53 PM

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View PostNixouf, on 13 September 2012 - 06:27 AM, said:

Who doesn't? Unless your mouse hasn't wheel, i don't know why you would do otherwise...

Well, seems that practice is more common than I'd thought. I only use two finger to control the mouse, the index finger does wheel and the LMB, middle finger does the RMB, and the ring and pinky finger are resting on the right side of the mouse.

View PostDoolio, on 13 September 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

I like razer mice. They are overhyped and overpriced, but they suit me best. I had logitech, but couldn't make friends with it. I sold it to a friend and bought abyssus, which fits my mouse grip perfectly. It's two years since I bought it and I had no problems. Logitech mice are better "machines", but for me they're too large and heavy. I have a specific grip, with only fingertips touching the mouse and the root of the hand is set in place on the mat and the mouse never touches it. Also, I lift the mouse quite often, and I do that with only two fingers, without actually grabbing it, but letting it "stick" on it's own. So, all that taken into consideration, I can't get a hold on MX's and really appreciate small mice with long buttons and virtually no weight.
Only problem that I have with more professional pro gamering razer models is that I don't want extra buttons. But I think there are always 2-3 models which are completely raw.

That's my man, I also usually have a very minimal grip, only the fingertips are always on the mouse and the palm sometimes briefly touches it, so I prefer lighter and slightly smaller mice to those huge behemoths :D
Also I'm using a Razer Deathadder, that thing suits me rather well. Can't really complain about the quality either, my old one lasted me for I think 3 or 4 years before succumbing to the apparently rather common failure of the LMB microswitch (which is mostly fixable by some tinkering, but my mouse already looked like an elephant had eaten and spilled out 3 times over before taking a dump on it, so I just bought a new one). So far, working as intended :Smile_veryhappy: (close to 2 years I believe)

Off-topic, but my Razer Headset (Cacharas, or whatever it is spelled) is working fine for I think 3 or more years now, even though I carry it around a lot and am not particularly careful, so I really can't complain about the quality or manufacturing there either (aside from the microswitch issue, but yeah). But maybe I just got lucky, who knows?

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View PostTrilandian, on 12 September 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I wish. The store's return policy is that you can only return products you haven't used (meaning, sealed in the original packaging).

But, if there is an intermittant fault with the product you are allowed to return it, the onus is on the store to prove there is no fault.

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I use the imperator, most comfortable mouse I have ever used. So I guess it depends on the individual.

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View PostNechrom, on 13 September 2012 - 01:25 AM, said:

Wait. I might have understood this completely wrong, but you're saying your ring-finger ISN'T on your right mouse button?

No, it isn't. My ring finger sits on top of my pinky, with the tip either gripping the mouse or resting on the table.

View Postslow_hand, on 13 September 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Have you tried to let the mouse point to your left but let your hand grip it without being angled?
It may sounds and feel awkward first, but it's the way I tend to use ergonomical mice and I have my hand in a straight line with my forearm.

That... actually makes a whole bunch of sense. I might end up trying it, thanks for the tip. :Smile_blinky:

View PostXensation, on 13 September 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Why would you ever want high DPI? I have a razer deathadder (which is awesome by the way) which can be used at 3.5DPI and I set the DPI to 400 or 450, because it makes aiming and such much easier.

There's a difference between a DPI that's natively low and DPI that's scaled down. If the mouse's DPI is natively low, it makes minute adjustments difficult (a good example is playing a Sentinel in Tribes: Ascend).

View PostFreakDC, on 13 September 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

Steelseries is a solid choice, got one myself and it's the best mouse I had so far (and I had Microsoft, Logitech and Razer).
If you can spare a little more money go Steelseries.

It really is. If there's a bright side to this whole story, is that I bought the Sensei [RAW] today, and it's absolutely perfect. :Smile_Default:

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Had mx510 (before 518) and lasted 5 years. Now I got the G5, same shape as the 518.
Best mouse ever :P

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View Post2alertred, on 12 September 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Razer is shit company. I have their old mouse wich got broken in the less than a year. I managed to fix it somehow watching some youtube videos. (they make mouses bad on purpose so you replace them sooner)

My Razer Krait is the best mouse I've ever owned and has been going well for about 3-4 years now.

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View PostTrilandian, on 13 September 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

No, it isn't. My ring finger sits on top of my pinky, with the tip either gripping the mouse or resting on the table.

Same here, I find it very uncomfortable trying it with ring finger on RMB and clawing my middle finger up to do the wheel.

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Your biggest mistake was to buy a Razer product... i feel for you.

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View PostRavenDeBlade, on 13 September 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

Your biggest mistake was to buy a Razer product... i feel for you.

No his biggest misstake was to buy a mouse without testing it IRL first and buying from a company that refuse to let you send it back.

Out if them two i would say buying from a scam company that don't let you return your mouse is for sure the biggest misstake.

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View PostBadNews420, on 13 September 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

No his biggest misstake was to buy a mouse without testing it IRL first and buying from a company that refuse to let you send it back.

Out if them two i would say buying from a scam company that don't let you return your mouse is for sure the biggest misstake.

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Don't you just love it when people who are completely uninformed a situation throw their opinions around willy-nilly, and make people out to be clueless hicks (really appreciate that).

First of all, there are no places that allow you to test mice where I live.

Second of all, it isn't a "scam company", it's the biggest computer hardware retailer in the country.

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oh mx518
you are my mate
mx518
never leave me
be with me always mx518
we will watch the sun set together
just you wait
mx518

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View PostTrilandian, on 13 September 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Second of all, it isn't a "scam company", it's the biggest computer hardware retailer in the country.

Must be a scam country then. :Smile-hiding:




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